Why Can't Hirelings Find Nirncrux and Dwarven Scraps

Palidon · December 2014

Just wondering why Hirelings can find all the other crafting materials in the game with the exception of Nirncrux and Dwarven Scraps. If a player is going to invest skill points in Hirelings then they should be able to find all the crafting materials in the game to include Nirncrux and Dwarven Scraps.

Black_Wolf88 · December 2014

because it would be too easy.

TehMagnus · December 2014

Cuz they are unskilled ^^

Divinius · December 2014

Black_Wolf88 wrote: »

because it would be too easy.

They could make them rarer than the gold mats, so at least people would have some small chance of getting one.

Of course, if they did do that, you'd just end up with people that don't understand how a RNG works complaining that "my hirelings are broken! I never get nirncrux!" and begging them to raise the rates.

Slurg · December 2014

The wasp swarms in upper Craglorn would kill them so they don't go there. And they'd have to compete with all the farmers in the dwarven ruins so profit margin is low. The hirelings are businessmen after all.

Ourorboros · December 2014

Palidon wrote: »

Just wondering why Hirelings can find all the other crafting materials in the game with the exception of Nirncrux and Dwarven Scraps. If a player is going to invest skill points in Hirelings then they should be able to find all the crafting materials in the game to include Nirncrux and Dwarven Scraps.

Probably for the same reason hirelings don't deliver Imperial stock, Imperial flour, penguis, etc., some kind of twisted ZOS logic. May as well ask why about any number of senseless things. Answer: people make mistakes (and don't like to admit it).

AshySamurai · December 2014

Ourorboros wrote: »

Palidon wrote: »

Just wondering why Hirelings can find all the other crafting materials in the game with the exception of Nirncrux and Dwarven Scraps. If a player is going to invest skill points in Hirelings then they should be able to find all the crafting materials in the game to include Nirncrux and Dwarven Scraps.

Probably for the same reason hirelings don't deliver Imperial stock, Imperial flour, penguis, etc., some kind of twisted ZOS logic. May as well ask why about any number of senseless things. Answer: people make mistakes (and don't like to admit it).

I get penguis few times.

Nestor · December 2014

Ourorboros wrote: »

Probably for the same reason hirelings don't deliver Imperial stock, Imperial flour, penguis, etc.,

At least you can buy those at the Grocers.

Make the Nirncrux and Frame Delivery rate the same as Tomatoes and Oats. It's not like I have a bunch of those after months of Hireling emails.

AlnilamE · December 2014

They are not brave enough to venture into Upper Craglorn or fight dwemer constructs...

Ourorboros · December 2014

AshySamurai wrote: »

I get penguis few times.

Penguis from hirelings? I don't think so, only from grocer or crafting writ. Has anyone else seen this from a hireling?

AshySamurai · December 2014

Ourorboros wrote: »

AshySamurai wrote: »

I get penguis few times.

Penguis from hirelings? I don't think so, only from grocer or crafting writ. Has anyone else seen this from a hireling?

Oh, yeah. Maybe you're right. I just have some pinguis and I clearly remember that I didn't bought it.

Rodario · December 2014

Agreed. They could come in the same rarity and amounts as oats and tomatoes.

Nestor · December 2014

AshySamurai wrote: »

Oh, yeah. Maybe you're right. I just have some pinguis and I clearly remember that I didn't bought it.

Same here. It might have made it's way to a loot table during one of the patches, then got removed. I know I had some and for sure I did not buy any of it. By some, I think it was 2 or 3 of them.

Armitas · December 2014

Most of the hirelings are hooked on skooma and likely pawning the good stuff for more skooma.

Gyudan · December 2014

Nestor wrote: »

Ourorboros wrote: »

Probably for the same reason hirelings don't deliver Imperial stock, Imperial flour, penguis, etc.,

At least you can buy those at the Grocers.

Make the Nirncrux and Frame Delivery rate the same as Tomatoes and Oats. It's not like I have a bunch of those after months of Hireling emails.

I have 400 tomatoes, 400 peppers and 400 oats in bank. I think the delivery rate of nirncrux should be much lower that those, if it is ever added.

AshySamurai · December 2014

Gyudan wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

Ourorboros wrote: »

Probably for the same reason hirelings don't deliver Imperial stock, Imperial flour, penguis, etc.,

At least you can buy those at the Grocers.

Make the Nirncrux and Frame Delivery rate the same as Tomatoes and Oats. It's not like I have a bunch of those after months of Hireling emails.

I have 400 tomatoes, 400 peppers and 400 oats in bank. I think the delivery rate of nirncrux should be much lower that those, if it is ever added.

You are the one of this guys, who have over 400 columbine and other flowers?

Nestor · December 2014

Gyudan wrote: »

I have 400 tomatoes, 400 peppers and 400 oats in bank. I think the delivery rate of nirncrux should be much lower that those, if it is ever added.

And I have 30 or so tomatoes and oats, I have 80 Peppers, mostly from looting.

And you probably have multiple mules with hirelings to get what you have. However the point is, so what? Why does Nirncrux and Dwemer Frames have to be super rare? Rare sure, but super rare?

I have not chased down one Dwemer Motif page ever. Reason, in my several forays into Dwemer Ruins I have walked out with 2 scrap or frames or whatever it is called that drops. I need what, 10 of those to make one piece of gear? Not sure so that is why I am asking.

Anyway, this stuff is so rare and tedious, not challenging, that I have no desire to get it. If was getting dwemer and nirncrux with at the same rate I get tomatoes then I might feel different about it.

Rosveen · December 2014

Gyudan wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

Ourorboros wrote: »

Probably for the same reason hirelings don't deliver Imperial stock, Imperial flour, penguis, etc.,

At least you can buy those at the Grocers.

Make the Nirncrux and Frame Delivery rate the same as Tomatoes and Oats. It's not like I have a bunch of those after months of Hireling emails.

I have 400 tomatoes, 400 peppers and 400 oats in bank. I think the delivery rate of nirncrux should be much lower that those, if it is ever added.

Do you have hirelings on all 8 characters?

edit: Nevermind, you're the one who made that "closer look at inventory" thread. Deliveries shouldn't be balanced for hoarding junkies with an army of hirelings - otherwise the rest of us will never have any real chance of getting anything good.

DeLindsay · December 2014

Rodario wrote: »

Agreed. They could come in the same rarity and amounts as oats and tomatoes.

This. Add to that we should get 1-3 or so Dwemer Frames per refine, as stupid low the drop rate is for the Scraps.

Bogdano · September 2017

I wonder if a hireling were created while a person was camped at Craglorn and if the person didn't leave Craglorn, then the hireling might find an occasional nirncrux stone. A clothing hireling might be more likely to find fortified nirncrux and a blacksmith hireling might be more likely to find potent nirncrux.
Of course if it worked and the person could profit from it (even imaginary profit) then the person would never reveal this to anyone.
It is, after all, a trait stone just like the other trait stones that are found and delivered by hirelings, who never die.

OutLaw_Nynx · September 2017

Holy necro

SHADOW2KK · September 2017

Talk about necroing...

THWIP71 · September 2017

Hirelings are only useful for frost mirriam and bervez juice....everything else that's useful is abundant and easy to farm.

THWIP71 · September 2017

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The_Protagonist · September 2017

In B4 the lock

Slack · September 2017

Bogdano wrote: »

I wonder if a hireling were created while a person was camped at Craglorn and if the person didn't leave Craglorn, then the hireling might find an occasional nirncrux stone. A clothing hireling might be more likely to find fortified nirncrux and a blacksmith hireling might be more likely to find potent nirncrux.
Of course if it worked and the person could profit from it (even imaginary profit) then the person would never reveal this to anyone.
It is, after all, a trait stone just like the other trait stones that are found and delivered by hirelings, who never die.

You have unlocked a new skill line : necromancy

PS. : if you abuse your new power, you might be punished with forum infractions

starkerealm · September 2017

THWIP71 wrote: »

Hirelings are only useful for frost mirriam and bervez juice....everything else that's useful is abundant and easy to farm.

They're also nice for gold upgrade materials and Kutas. Yes, you can get far more from other sources, but here's a feebie.

starkerealm · September 2017

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Talk about necroing...

I know, I was reminded of back when the Craglorn Wasps would wreck your ****, and then thought, "wait, I should check the post date... oh."

THWIP71 · September 2017

starkerealm wrote: »

THWIP71 wrote: »

Hirelings are only useful for frost mirriam and bervez juice....everything else that's useful is abundant and easy to farm.

They're also nice for gold upgrade materials and Kutas. Yes, you can get far more from other sources, but here's a feebie.

I've got lvl 3 hirelings on all 9 of my lvl 50 CP 430 characters, and I've maybe gotten 1 or 2 Kutas, ever. Same goes for Dreugh wax, Tempuring Alloy, etc.
But I've got over 300 Kuta...even after giving my wife almost 100 this weekend. I have over 200 of all other Legendary mats, and 500-600 each on greens, blues and purples. Yes, I'm a farming freak, and a hoarder, but I'm doing it for not only all of my alts, but for my wife as well, since her work schedule doesn't afford her nearly enough time.

Eyesinthedrk · September 2017

Because that would hurt the chinese farmers.

starkerealm · September 2017

THWIP71 wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

THWIP71 wrote: »

Hirelings are only useful for frost mirriam and bervez juice....everything else that's useful is abundant and easy to farm.

They're also nice for gold upgrade materials and Kutas. Yes, you can get far more from other sources, but here's a feebie.

I've got lvl 3 hirelings on all 9 of my lvl 50 CP 430 characters, and I've maybe gotten 1 or 2 Kutas, ever. Same goes for Dreugh wax, Tempuring Alloy, etc.
But I've got over 300 Kuta...even after giving my wife almost 100 this weekend. I have over 200 of all other Legendary mats, and 500-600 each on greens, blues and purples. Yes, I'm a farming freak, and a hoarder, but I'm doing it for not only all of my alts, but for my wife as well, since her work schedule doesn't afford her nearly enough time.

Weird. I usually get a gold upgrade mat from each hireling about once a week. I've even had days where I've gotten multiple Kutas in a single day.