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Global Auction addon, is it allowed? (ZOS - need your answer)

QuadroTony
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My friend has an idea for an global auction house addon and found out it was already made it was called ESO Outpost
this is a very usefull idea, IMO

But the site was shutdown and the addon was discontinued.
rightnow ESOutpost.com redirecting to the tf2outpost.com
Looks like ZoS really doesn't want an addon like this.
It was in early stages where they didn't have an external program to upload it to the site. You could link your item and than post it on the site. Thing is it was shutdown.

I wonder who shut it down? (sarcasm)

The addon was updated last month though and you can use the addon with some errors because of the new patch but yah the site is gone which makes me believe that ZoS shut it down.

http://www.zam.com/story.html?story=34363
http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info464-ESOutpost.html
Edited by QuadroTony on December 14, 2014 10:30AM
  • Barik
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    nah dude they had a facebook and everything. They advertised to alot of sites. If you google Eso Outpost at the bottom you can see on the second to last link "ESO Outpost / Trade #1,144"

    the site WAS up and running.

    ESO has a stance with not wanting to unbalance their economy. Even though only less than 1% of the players were using it... which wouldn't have unbalanced anything it would have probably gotten really big....

    SOooo.... what happened?
    Edited by Barik on December 14, 2014 11:08AM
  • drama235eb17_ESO
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    weird things players forced to do because of poor game mechanics ._.
  • QuadroTony
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    i hope i will got official answer here :)
  • Koensol
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    Don't think the API will support such a mod.
  • QuadroTony
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    Koensol wrote: »
    Don't think the API will support such a mod.
    it already support it, read first post =)
    Edited by QuadroTony on December 14, 2014 10:45AM
  • Barik
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    Yah api still supports it. You can download the outdated version of it and it still works but no site to take the "code" and put it anywhere.
  • QuadroTony
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    its very strange situation, with this site
  • Barik
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    Unfortantly its not going to happen (*anymore*).. lol
    *edit*
    Edited by Barik on December 14, 2014 11:09AM
  • QuadroTony
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    or mby ZOS planning to make Auction in the future?
  • Barik
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    Hopefully in a some form they make a larger base of people to sell to than 2500 max. Because MOST people don't have 5 Merchant Guilds with all active players. And it's more like they have 1200 people when 1/3 people not selling, 1/3 people not active.
  • kewl
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    Is ZAM updating any of it's ESO content anymore? Looks like allot of ESOHead info is outdated.
  • QuadroTony
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    esohead died, ye
    but esoui alive
  • Ra1ne
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    QuadroTony wrote: »
    or mby ZOS planning to make Auction in the future?

    I'm fairly sure I've seen posts from either Jessica or Gina saying this won't happen due to the mega server tech
  • QuadroTony
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    Ra1ne wrote: »
    QuadroTony wrote: »
    or mby ZOS planning to make Auction in the future?

    I'm fairly sure I've seen posts from either Jessica or Gina saying this won't happen due to the mega server tech
    too bad
    so, the question from topic's title still actual

  • QuadroTony
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    i like guild trade system. but its so... uncomfortable
  • Razzak
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    This would be a great addition to ESO. Just started really looking for and buying stuff and found out I need to spend up to an hour in order to visit every trader. And that's only traders from two alliances.
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    QuadroTony wrote: »
    its very strange situation, with this site
    It is, a bit weird that they dropped it and nobody was interested in continue it.
    It was ZOS who shut it down, they can not, they can however make api changes who makes the mod stop working.

    Note that running this action server you some serious options to play the marked as you have access to the raw data and can choose that to do with it.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • QuadroTony
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    Razzak wrote: »
    This would be a great addition to ESO. Just started really looking for and buying stuff and found out I need to spend up to an hour in order to visit every trader. And that's only traders from two alliances.
    feel you, man
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    Awesome quild store addon can make better situation with guildstores, etc
    but still global auction will be better
  • Haxnschwammer
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    Zos didn't shut them down...
    Zam is a company, making money with all the 'head' sites, esohead,wowhead, whateverhead...
    They didn't make enough money with eso so they stopped all actions related to eso. The sites are online but there are no more updates. When only a few use
    Those sites it means no advertisments sold, no money gained.
    Zam is a company, it's really that simple.

    Edit: Just to add a thing, a global auction house is not wanted by ZOS, and many
    Players also don't like them. There has been a lot of threads and polls
    About that with about
    40% no
    30% yes
    30% don't care
    Votes. Others may count different values, but I think more players
    Don't want an auction house.
    Edited by Haxnschwammer on December 14, 2014 6:56PM
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    link on such polls, pls?
    bcs i dont believe in such results
    Edited by QuadroTony on December 14, 2014 7:08PM
  • Sord
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    Auction houses where pretty heavily discussed in this thread with lots of good ideas by people. But ZOS has stated that global AH systems will cause to much lag in this type of mega server. Hope that thread is useful.
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  • QuadroTony
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    ok. so the addon like auction house will be very popular and usefull AFAIK
    and its allowed and not banable, i guess
    we will start working on such addon soon
  • kewl
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    They didn't make enough money with eso so they stopped all actions related to eso. The sites are online but there are no more updates. When only a few use those sites it means no advertisments sold, no money gained.Zam is a company, it's really that simple.

    ZAM isn't pushing any content for ESO. That's what I thought.
  • Barik
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    The question is: Does having a global auction house/trading addon exploit the game when the developers specifically said they didn't want a global auction house as it would ruin the economy?

    ” You agree that in its sole discretion and without notice, ZOS reserves the right to modify, restrict, or disable any Add-ons, including any You have enabled, without notice, at any time and for any or no reason, including, but not limited to, (i) direct and indirect violations of the Rules of Conduct, as described in the Terms of Service; (ii) evidence of commercial gain or attribution, including game exploitation; (iii) undue or unfair burden to the Game, its Services, including customer service support, and/or to other users."

    https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/add-on-terms?q=2e9d89d0-f9cf-4f4d-a55e-f009d26fff79&p=e9391e79-919d-4350-99d1-2a9ddc98132e&ts=1418620346&c=zenimaxonline&e=live&rt=Safetynet&h=9eb0d1c56979812ae77c1af3fa2a9803

    Honestly the way I see it is YES, you can make a addon like this BUT!
    BUT- You have to make certain precautions to make sure the addon does not connect "too many people."
    If only 3000-5000 people where using the addon thats fine but once you get over 10k users you need to implement a system that stops everyone from trading with everyone as it directly goes against the developers wishes and design.

    WHEN IT GETS BIG: make it so people's ads are displayed only when they are online the same time you are.
    Edited by Barik on December 15, 2014 5:47AM
  • QuadroTony
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    but this floating ppl number... who knows, mby they will ban this addon more faster than you think
    i still wanna to see ZOs answer here
    hope die last =)
  • NadiusMaximus
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    If an ah would cause major lag, more than already, then this game is/was *** from the get-go.

    Think of how all the next "updates" will play out.

    Justice system, introduce lag in cities due to guys standing around impulseing guards.

    Imperial city, epic, huge battles? Pvp is a lag filled circle jerk now, so let's make more of that=win?

    Champion system? How many "new" systems are there going to be? If it's going to be so great, why wasn't it done at release, or is it something they just threw together in the last six months hoping it would stick since people blew through the content and maxed out toons faster than they thought was possible,and they needed a fast way to implement a sense of advancement.

    Spellcrafting? Why more magic ***. Again with stuff that should have shipped with first release. Does it dawn on people that maybe the reason everyone and their dog runs a magic build is because it's op? And this will help how? Get ready for more must have in order to run with us in trials crap.

    To me, the more and more they try to make this game more ElderScrollsish, they further away it gets.

    Pvp? In my opinion, They need two servers, regular and open world pvp, and make Cyrodil just another part of the map and let us fight like it's a real war. Is it me or what but outside the pvp area, absolutely nobody in the towns even mention a huge epic war going on, or see armies gearing up, or sawmills making siege equipment.


    Edited by NadiusMaximus on December 15, 2014 9:00AM
  • Razzak
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    If an ah would cause major lag, more than already, then this game is/was *** from the get-go.

    My thought exactly. As the times goes by I see less and less proof that this mega server is any better than normal server architecture. It offers us nothing more than all other MMOs without it.
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    So far it's worse, and we lack things that other mmos have because of it. Namely. ..... Players.
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    QuadroTony wrote: »
    My friend has an idea for an global auction house addon and found out it was already made it was called ESO Outpost
    this is a very usefull idea, IMO

    But the site was shutdown and the addon was discontinued.
    rightnow ESOutpost.com redirecting to the tf2outpost.com
    Looks like ZoS really doesn't want an addon like this.
    It was in early stages where they didn't have an external program to upload it to the site. You could link your item and than post it on the site. Thing is it was shutdown.

    I wonder who shut it down? (sarcasm)

    The addon was updated last month though and you can use the addon with some errors because of the new patch but yah the site is gone which makes me believe that ZoS shut it down.

    http://www.zam.com/story.html?story=34363
    http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info464-ESOutpost.html

    Site was shutdown because nobody was using it, because nobody wanted to go through the trouble of manually uploading things and the people who did (like myself) hardly ever sold anything.

    Plus the UI of the website wasn't user friendly.

    And good luck having someone install a third party program in their PC to automatically upload stuff to the website, I know I won't unless the source code is available and I can compile it myself, which most people won't do.
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