Two fairly inflammatory questions.

  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    kijima wrote: »
    Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it isn't happening.

    On the days we wake up to AD emps and down scrolls, you can bet we set that aside and play 'race you to Faregyl'.

    For sure grippa', totally agree. You can see things change depending on what time your logged in.

    For someone that plays 4 hours a day, the same 4 hours of the day, everyday. They only see a snap shot of that timeframe and nothing more. If you log in and out at many times during the day you see all sorts of changes depending on what is peak time in other parts of the globe, this is an MMO after all. One decent guild operating at any one time can make a massive difference to how a map looks.

    And while I know a few guild leaders that talk to others about sharing the pain, It's not as if every EP and DC player has been wired to attack AD and not each other, although from what you read in the forums from some AD players, you'd think that was the case. :astonished:

    Yes, I've got screen shots of blue and red working together, I've been there when blue are attacking the back of the keep, and red the front. Yes, I've got screen shots of the map on thorn being perfectly shared between DC and EP , split right down the middle with AD being pushed back to the gates. While that might feel like a purple alliance, it's more a case of operation F$CK AD being in action than anything else.

    I'm AD and I'm not buying into the purple alliance. I've been playing PvP since beta, I've seen AD with enough numbers to keep both EP and DC at bay on pretty much every campaign, remember those days?

    Operation F$ck AD is in place, purple alliance while real, not so much.

    Night capping is a term that's not going away. The server is adjudicated in NA time for a reason.

    I've had this discussion numerous times. I'm not going to argue over the rights or wrongs of it. It is what it is and whether we should be ok with it or not isn't something I care to get into for the umpteenth time.
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  • Awetopsy1703
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    Someone from every alliance says this every now and then , it changes all the time just like this morning EP took everything on Thorn so its Go team Green and next week go team orange and purple its all fiction we all hate each other .
  • kijima
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    Night capping is a term that's not going away. The server is adjudicated in NA time for a reason.

    I've had this discussion numerous times. I'm not going to argue over the rights or wrongs of it. It is what it is and whether we should be ok with it or not isn't something I care to get into for the umpteenth time.

    Read between the lines version: "Yeah, I know it's an injustice, but what are you going to do about it kid, deal with it"
    Been here since Feb 2014 - You'd think I'd be half reasonable at this game by now...
  • TagaParti
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  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    kijima wrote: »
    Night capping is a term that's not going away. The server is adjudicated in NA time for a reason.

    I've had this discussion numerous times. I'm not going to argue over the rights or wrongs of it. It is what it is and whether we should be ok with it or not isn't something I care to get into for the umpteenth time.

    Read between the lines version: "Yeah, I know it's an injustice, but what are you going to do about it kid, deal with it"

    I don't consider it an injustice. That's your opinion, one which I don't share.
    Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
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  • JaJaLuka
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    Nihili wrote: »
    1) How valid is the existence of a #purplealliance or #orangealliance, etc? I'm in AD, and I must say that I have felt like I was facing two enemy groups (differing factions) who were on the same "team" at some point throughout my PvPing sessions, but this is purely speculation on my part.

    [Before we go forward with this discussion, I want to reiterate that I'm in AD, and so my opinion is based on some biased experiences. I would love to hear from DC and EP players how they feel about a Green/Orange Alliance.]

    For those of you who do not know; "purple alliance" is a reference to the possible collusion between DC (Blue) and EP (Red) to undermine AD only, giving you purple. Orange alliance is where EP and AD works together against DC, Green alliance is where DC and AD works together against EP.

    To my knowledge the first use of one of these terms was by the AD in the NA server, back when AD had the largest population and "dominated" PvP (for sake of discussion I'll say purely because of a numbers advantage rather than a skill difference), which resulted in EP and DC being forced into cooperating to break our advantage. This is, of course, a natural step by the EP and DC, however in the recent Thornblade campaign in which EP won, some AD players complained in zone chat that they still felt the presence of a "purple alliance" - despite there being no reason for it: with EP in the lead the natural collusion should occur between AD and DC. #greenalliance. It did not occur.

    Examples in which I have felt the presence of the "purple alliance": Chalman keep and the keeps/outposts on the way to Chalman (A keep on the EP side between DC and EP) have been left to DC after EP was in a comfortable lead - they were virtually untouched for hours and hours while both DC and EP pushed down against AD. I have logged in daily and seen no change in ownership to Chalman. The effect of this is that DC gets more AP than AD until such a time that EP feels threatened and makes an effort at reclaiming those keeps.

    Thoughts?

    2) How come there are so many former emperors in this game? For a supposedly near unachievable position, there are way too many of these buggers around. It is reaching the point where if you hope to actively compete in Cyrodiil, you need to look at how and where you can get your emperorship.

    Not sure about that last point, I have killed a fair few former emperors. But I do agree that they seem to spread faster than they should.
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  • JaJaLuka
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    kijima wrote: »
    Operation smash AD is one that will never end is a a true favorite of many. Too many mornings spent capping things back from the AD oceanic crew to not want to continuously pay them back forever for this.

    I don't care much about double teaming. It's a game where anything goes, and usual does, but what does irk me is this term about night capping?

    Who's night are you referring to?

    I find this to be complete BS. You get pissy because people are playing the game during 'their' peak time and not yours. I could say you are night capping Oceania couldn't I? It's not just the vegemite eaters that don't share your time zone.

    ESO is an MMO, it knows know boundaries, doesn't recognize international time lines, and it's sure as *** doesn't give flying continental what direction the water goes down in your toilet bowl. It's Global!

    /end rant

    P.S. Not having a go at you directly Asgari, my rage is more about the night capping term, not you as a person.

    Correct, however the only way to understand this is to experience it for yourself and be on the receiving end of "night capping". I do agree that people will and should be allowed to play their own time period but I definitely understand why people get angry when they have spent hours and hours fighting to gain a fair advantage against a similar population and come back to find it's been taken away by a force who stayed on just to take it "behind your back".

    Come and play DC and fight for a full campaign cycle (properly, to actually win) and tell me if you get at all frustrated.
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  • Sanct16
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    It is indeed sad how mraningless former emp is now. Even players who barely even pvp have it.
    There was a time when I proudly wear the former emperor title. Now I rather wear August Palatine as it is somehow unique at least.
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