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Dye Weapons & Shields

Blade_07
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Zenimax could we please have this option? The dye system is so awesome and I love it but its just missing the ability to dye weapons & shields! Make sure to add a chrome color as well for the weapons blades! I really dislike the dull colors of weapons as they are. Hook us up please! Thnx! ^^
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  • AlexDougherty
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    I agree.

    I was asking for weapons dyes before we got dyes at all, and ZOS said something about Pink swords (not to me, on Reddit I think). Most of us don't want pink swords, we want swords that match our armour.

    Shield dyes have been promised to us, but and this is a big but, we have been waiting for over three months since they said that and they still aren't here.

    So Please ZOS let us dye our weapons and our shields.
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  • Blade_07
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    Well lets hope they do.
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  • Blade_07
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    I would REALLY LOVE to see this happen! Weapons and shields are so plain looking its saddening.
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  • AlexDougherty
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    Blade_07 wrote: »
    I would REALLY LOVE to see this happen! Weapons and shields are so plain looking its saddening.

    Yeah, or in the case of weapons just plain wrong looking.

    My Sorc is dressed up in bright blue and yellow (it works better than it sounds), and is carrying a silver shield (a blue look would work much better) and carrying a Calcinium Sword that just looks rusty (especially if you zoom in on it).

    I want to dye my shield blue, to match my sorcs outfit, and I want to apply Windhelm Steel or Volunteers Iron to my sword blade (if it had been my DK them Black would be a better option though)
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    Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
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  • Nestor
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    So Please ZOS let us dye our weapons and our shields.

    Weapons I am kind of Meh about, as they don't need to match my armor. We have a hilt and a blade, and all the blades are the color of the metal they are made from and I never see the hilt really.

    However with Shields that is such a huge piece on our backs that it really looks out of place. I have solved this by picking shields in a different motif so the color goes with or provides a complimentary contrast (as opposed to a jarring contrast) to my characters armor.

    Or, I just swap to my stick or daggers when running around then I don't have to see the shield.

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  • BBSooner
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    Yes please, I realize weapons were coded differently than armor so making the color adjustable has different hurdles, but I'd really like to match my weapon to my armor - even cooler would be to change the glass color on glass items when the motif is released.
    Edited by BBSooner on December 3, 2014 7:20PM
  • Jitterbug
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    I agree.

    I was asking for weapons dyes before we got dyes at all, and ZOS said something about Pink swords (not to me, on Reddit I think). Most of us don't want pink swords, we want swords that match our armour.

    Shield dyes have been promised to us, but and this is a big but, we have been waiting for over three months since they said that and they still aren't here.

    So Please ZOS let us dye our weapons and our shields.

    Also, ZOS could just, you know, not add pink
  • Marthenil
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    Shields really are the centerpiece of a tank. It's what you look at 99% of the time when running around. And this is exactly when looks matter most. I have been struggling with the freakig violet shields since forever.
    I'm quite fed up.

    Weapons on the other hand should not be dyeable imo. Makes certain things stand out.
  • Preyfar
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    I think weapons should be dyeable, but ONLY limited to tints of metals from ores in game. You should be able to tint a weapon using ingots in the game to hue the weapon of the color of that ingot (and nothing more).
  • BBSooner
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    Preyfar wrote: »
    I think weapons should be dyeable, but ONLY limited to tints of metals from ores in game. You should be able to tint a weapon using ingots in the game to hue the weapon of the color of that ingot (and nothing more).

    Given the colors of all the items associated with blacksmithing in game you could probably make any color besides white. I assume this would only be suggested for blacksmithing weapons, since there's no reason to restrict a staff or bow based on material composition.

    But why do weapons need to be different than armor? My clearly steel chest piece can be a glossy light blue but I'm supposed to somehow disbelieve that a sword can do the same? I don't really know why it's an issue in the first place, If the player armor color scheme is any indication then most weapons will likely be black/red/grey.
  • diabeticDemon18
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    BBSooner wrote: »
    Preyfar wrote: »
    I think weapons should be dyeable, but ONLY limited to tints of metals from ores in game. You should be able to tint a weapon using ingots in the game to hue the weapon of the color of that ingot (and nothing more).

    Given the colors of all the items associated with blacksmithing in game you could probably make any color besides white. I assume this would only be suggested for blacksmithing weapons, since there's no reason to restrict a staff or bow based on material composition.

    But why do weapons need to be different than armor? My clearly steel chest piece can be a glossy light blue but I'm supposed to somehow disbelieve that a sword can do the same? I don't really know why it's an issue in the first place, If the player armor color scheme is any indication then most weapons will likely be black/red/grey.

    I agree! If I was in the medieval days and wanted to paint my damn sword blue, I'd paint my damn sword blue!! Why can't I paint a sword and armor in a color that suits my sigil? I want to represent where I come from and that includes painting my sword! I mean, painting it won't make it any less sharp :P
  • AlexDougherty
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    Jitterbug wrote: »
    I agree.

    I was asking for weapons dyes before we got dyes at all, and ZOS said something about Pink swords (not to me, on Reddit I think). Most of us don't want pink swords, we want swords that match our armour.

    Shield dyes have been promised to us, but and this is a big but, we have been waiting for over three months since they said that and they still aren't here.

    So Please ZOS let us dye our weapons and our shields.

    Also, ZOS could just, you know, not add pink

    Yeah, Don't want a pink weapon, or a pink shield come to think about it.
    People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
    Wizard's first rule
    Passion rules reason
    Wizard's third rule
    Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
    Wizard's fifth rule
    Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
    Wizard's tenth rule
  • AlexDougherty
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    Preyfar wrote: »
    I think weapons should be dyeable, but ONLY limited to tints of metals from ores in game. You should be able to tint a weapon using ingots in the game to hue the weapon of the color of that ingot (and nothing more).

    Pretty much all most of us are asking for ZOS.
    People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
    Wizard's first rule
    Passion rules reason
    Wizard's third rule
    Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
    Wizard's fifth rule
    Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
    Wizard's tenth rule
  • Nestor
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    I agree! If I was in the medieval days and wanted to paint my damn sword blue, I'd paint my damn sword blue!!

    If you could invent a paint that would stay on a sword during combat, well, let's just say the only combat you would be doing is protecting all your riches from that invention. No metal coating I have ever seen is as permanent as the metal itself. Weapon dyes, if ever available, should be limited to metallic hues. It would unrealistic to me to paint a sword a color and then have that color stay on the blade. Staffs maybe, as they never really hit anything, but do block. Bows, sure. But the color of the wood is fine for me, it makes sense. Same with the color of the metal.

    Which is why I am unconcerned about weapon dyes, it just does not make sense to me.

    Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.

    PakKat "Everything was going well, until I died"
    Gary Gravestink "I am glad you died, I needed the help"

  • diabeticDemon18
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    Preyfar wrote: »
    I think weapons should be dyeable, but ONLY limited to tints of metals from ores in game. You should be able to tint a weapon using ingots in the game to hue the weapon of the color of that ingot (and nothing more).

    Pretty much all most of us are asking for ZOS.

    But lets be honest, is it so crazy that a warrior would want to paint their blade a certain color? What could be the problem with that?
  • AlexDougherty
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    Preyfar wrote: »
    I think weapons should be dyeable, but ONLY limited to tints of metals from ores in game. You should be able to tint a weapon using ingots in the game to hue the weapon of the color of that ingot (and nothing more).

    Pretty much all most of us are asking for ZOS.

    But lets be honest, is it so crazy that a warrior would want to paint their blade a certain color? What could be the problem with that?

    Is it so crazy? No, I'm pretty sure people did this in the past.
    Is it realistic to expect it to survive more than a few fight? (question you didn't ask) No, paint and even enamels would chip and fracture pretty quickly.
    Do I personally have a problem with it? No, actually I don't, I would probably even do it, if it was included.
    Does Mat Firor have a problem with it? Yes, which is why I keep saying metallic colours for weapons, if we keep it up we might get them. (people keep quoting him saying no pink swords)
    Edited by AlexDougherty on December 3, 2014 9:30PM
    People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
    Wizard's first rule
    Passion rules reason
    Wizard's third rule
    Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
    Wizard's fifth rule
    Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
    Wizard's tenth rule
  • BBSooner
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    Nestor wrote: »

    I agree! If I was in the medieval days and wanted to paint my damn sword blue, I'd paint my damn sword blue!!

    If you could invent a paint that would stay on a sword during combat, well, let's just say the only combat you would be doing is protecting all your riches from that invention. No metal coating I have ever seen is as permanent as the metal itself. Weapon dyes, if ever available, should be limited to metallic hues. It would unrealistic to me to paint a sword a color and then have that color stay on the blade. Staffs maybe, as they never really hit anything, but do block. Bows, sure. But the color of the wood is fine for me, it makes sense. Same with the color of the metal.

    Which is why I am unconcerned about weapon dyes, it just does not make sense to me.

    Special circumstance for reality shouldn't be made for weapons though. Under the same conditions of wear and tear no paint, dye, decorative plating of a painted or weaker metal, etc would last on a metal shield or armor that is sustaining blows routinely - so why raise the red flag for weapons.

    Id even argue that the maces and axes could have portions painted and be far less likely to have paint chipped as the entire head of the weapon is not commonly used for combat.

    But that's detail that goes against the set precedent of how metal armors are dyed - it doesn't matter the realistic implications of dying/painting my metal armor dark purple, no matter how much I'm hit it stays just as glossy as day 1.
  • Nestor
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    BBSooner wrote: »
    Under the same conditions of wear and tear no paint, dye, decorative plating of a painted or weaker metal, etc would last on a metal shield or armor that is sustaining blows routinely - so why raise the red flag for weapons.

    Most Armors in the game are cloth or leather. Those are almost always dyed or stained. I agree it's weird that I should be able to dye my Heavy Armor, but I use colors that could be applied to a metal in the alloying process.

    And if I wanted to play a game that would make me suspend all disbelief, I would play WOW (seriously, talking Panda's?) I like a little dose of reality to go with my fantasy.

    Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.

    PakKat "Everything was going well, until I died"
    Gary Gravestink "I am glad you died, I needed the help"

  • BBSooner
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    Nestor wrote: »
    BBSooner wrote: »
    Under the same conditions of wear and tear no paint, dye, decorative plating of a painted or weaker metal, etc would last on a metal shield or armor that is sustaining blows routinely - so why raise the red flag for weapons.

    Most Armors in the game are cloth or leather. Those are almost always dyed or stained. I agree it's weird that I should be able to dye my Heavy Armor, but I use colors that could be applied to a metal in the alloying process.

    And if I wanted to play a game that would make me suspend all disbelief, I would play WOW (seriously, talking Panda's?) I like a little dose of reality to go with my fantasy.

    I agree with the fantasy rooted in reality, but the precedent is already set that combat doesn't chip paint/gloss from metal with regards to our item coloring system - there shouldn't be any qualms in continuing with that theme.

    Add to the fact that if a real world Smith could mix alloys to make a pink hued sword (possible), it should be a dose of reality that our smiths could at the very least be able to mix and match our Galatite/ebony/void/orichalc/etc to make a lot of varying shades of weapon colors.
  • kongkim
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    No pink weapons :S
  • AlexDougherty
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    kongkim wrote: »
    No pink weapons :S

    Read the thread!!

    Most of us are asking for metal colours.
    People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
    Wizard's first rule
    Passion rules reason
    Wizard's third rule
    Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
    Wizard's fifth rule
    Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
    Wizard's tenth rule
  • diabeticDemon18
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    Preyfar wrote: »
    I think weapons should be dyeable, but ONLY limited to tints of metals from ores in game. You should be able to tint a weapon using ingots in the game to hue the weapon of the color of that ingot (and nothing more).

    Pretty much all most of us are asking for ZOS.

    But lets be honest, is it so crazy that a warrior would want to paint their blade a certain color? What could be the problem with that?

    Is it so crazy? No, I'm pretty sure people did this in the past.
    Is it realistic to expect it to survive more than a few fight? (question you didn't ask) No, paint and even enamels would chip and fracture pretty quickly.
    Do I personally have a problem with it? No, actually I don't, I would probably even do it, if it was included.
    Does Mat Firor have a problem with it? Yes, which is why I keep saying metallic colours for weapons, if we keep it up we might get them. (people keep quoting him saying no pink swords)

    Agreed, but then your armor paint should chip as well. Your armors are painted, yet they keep their color fine. Every time you take a hit, you would lose some paint. As for your other points, fair enough lol but maybe if we talked to him and gave him a legitimate reason as to why someone would want a pink sword then he would understand, if it was good enough? Other than that, I can deal with metallic colors if that's all we'll get
  • AlexDougherty
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    Preyfar wrote: »
    I think weapons should be dyeable, but ONLY limited to tints of metals from ores in game. You should be able to tint a weapon using ingots in the game to hue the weapon of the color of that ingot (and nothing more).

    Pretty much all most of us are asking for ZOS.

    But lets be honest, is it so crazy that a warrior would want to paint their blade a certain color? What could be the problem with that?

    Is it so crazy? No, I'm pretty sure people did this in the past.
    Is it realistic to expect it to survive more than a few fight? (question you didn't ask) No, paint and even enamels would chip and fracture pretty quickly.
    Do I personally have a problem with it? No, actually I don't, I would probably even do it, if it was included.
    Does Mat Firor have a problem with it? Yes, which is why I keep saying metallic colours for weapons, if we keep it up we might get them. (people keep quoting him saying no pink swords)

    Agreed, but then your armor paint should chip as well. Your armors are painted, yet they keep their color fine. Every time you take a hit, you would lose some paint. As for your other points, fair enough lol but maybe if we talked to him and gave him a legitimate reason as to why someone would want a pink sword then he would understand, if it was good enough? Other than that, I can deal with metallic colors if that's all we'll get

    Actually you're right, armour enamel would chip, which is why historic accounts have squires applying enamel regularly, to repair the look of the armour. But if we aren't applying enamel regularly, then we could safely forget about having to reapply enamel to our weapons.
    People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
    Wizard's first rule
    Passion rules reason
    Wizard's third rule
    Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
    Wizard's fifth rule
    Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
    Wizard's tenth rule
  • kongkim
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    kongkim wrote: »
    No pink weapons :S

    Read the thread!!

    Most of us are asking for metal colours.

    I know. just another way to say i agree then ;)
  • AlexDougherty
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    kongkim wrote: »
    kongkim wrote: »
    No pink weapons :S

    Read the thread!!

    Most of us are asking for metal colours.

    I know. just another way to say i agree then ;)

    Oh, ok, we agree then, no pink weapons.
    People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
    Wizard's first rule
    Passion rules reason
    Wizard's third rule
    Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
    Wizard's fifth rule
    Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
    Wizard's tenth rule
  • BBSooner
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    kongkim wrote: »
    No pink weapons :S

    I wish this wouldn't be a focal point of the discussion, a pink dagger is far less outrageous than a head to toe pink Orcish heavy armor.

    Besides, the majority of players would likely just color their weapons grey/black/red as per the majority of armor color schemes.
  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    I don't know about this, but it would be nice if my voidstone imperial sword wasn't purple as it is. Speaking of void stone... is that like a more refined version of Ebony? What exactly is Void Stone?
    US/AD - Dodge Hopper - Vet Imperial Templar | US/AD - Goj-ei-Raj - Vet Argonian Nightblade
    US/AD - Arondonimo - Vet Altmer Sorcerer | US/AD - Azumarax - Vet Dunmer Dragon Knight
    US/AD - Barkan al-Sheharesh - Vet Redguard Dragon Knight | US/AD - Aelus Vortavoriil - Vet Altmer Templar
    US/AD - Shirari Qa'Dar - Vet Khajiit Nightblade | US/AD - Ndvari Mzunchvolenthumz - Vet Bosmer Nightblade
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    US/DC - Muiredeach - Vet Breton Sorcerer | US/DC - Nachtrabe - Vet Orc Nightblade
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  • diabeticDemon18
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    Preyfar wrote: »
    I think weapons should be dyeable, but ONLY limited to tints of metals from ores in game. You should be able to tint a weapon using ingots in the game to hue the weapon of the color of that ingot (and nothing more).

    Pretty much all most of us are asking for ZOS.

    But lets be honest, is it so crazy that a warrior would want to paint their blade a certain color? What could be the problem with that?

    Is it so crazy? No, I'm pretty sure people did this in the past.
    Is it realistic to expect it to survive more than a few fight? (question you didn't ask) No, paint and even enamels would chip and fracture pretty quickly.
    Do I personally have a problem with it? No, actually I don't, I would probably even do it, if it was included.
    Does Mat Firor have a problem with it? Yes, which is why I keep saying metallic colours for weapons, if we keep it up we might get them. (people keep quoting him saying no pink swords)

    Agreed, but then your armor paint should chip as well. Your armors are painted, yet they keep their color fine. Every time you take a hit, you would lose some paint. As for your other points, fair enough lol but maybe if we talked to him and gave him a legitimate reason as to why someone would want a pink sword then he would understand, if it was good enough? Other than that, I can deal with metallic colors if that's all we'll get

    Actually you're right, armour enamel would chip, which is why historic accounts have squires applying enamel regularly, to repair the look of the armour. But if we aren't applying enamel regularly, then we could safely forget about having to reapply enamel to our weapons.

    Right, that's all I'm saying. I'm really just trying to play devil's advocate lol I think I've done a pretty good job for not honestly caring if we could dye them non-metallic colors
  • Isbilen
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    kongkim wrote: »
    No pink weapons :S

    Pink wouldn't be that big of a difference from the current purple VR14 weapons and shields...
  • Blade_07
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    I wonder if they have been considering this at all.
    “Man can live about forty days without food, about three days without water, about eight minutes without air, but only for one second without hope.”

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