So, Them Buff Servers

Khivas_Carrick · December 2014

They're a thing, right? Like it's well established that each faction pretty much takes a single buff server and runs with it for their PvE content and we all just let it happen, right? Like it doesn't carry across PvP Servers anymore so you can't home one place and guest another?

Yes? No?

Whichever it is, Buff Servers are a thing and for the most part we respect and leave that *** alone, so could the AD stop messing with Azura's Star please? Like, late night guilds kinda need those buffs and at the hours we play, there isn't exactly an EP population that can go and take em back readily, so could you like, not do that stuff AD, just leave our stuff alone please.

Unless we do it to you.

If we do it to you, go ahead and do what you will because then that's just straight up fair as all hell.

Gyudan · December 2014

Yes, buff campaigns are a thing but they make absolutely no sense.
Never set foot in PVP but get buffs anyway? @ZOS might as well add them permanently to everyone and adjust the PVP buffs for players in Cyrodiil.

Try this thread.

Khivas_Carrick · December 2014

Well then, I was thinking that as I wrote this, won't lie, and more so I agree with the OP. PvP should be for PvP only, but at the present moment, it is what it is and frankly AD seems to be the only group that does this BS just to mess with other people, which makes me wonder why @ZoS seems to think it's ok to carry on like this.

Domander · December 2014

I home on Azura's star, I like that there is some conflict, it is war after all. It's really boring when nothing is going on.

If you want your buffs hop on and help take stuff back.

lostavalon · December 2014

wow pvers coming to tell us to leave there precious buff servers alone... watta joke !! if u want to keep other factions out then defend it!!

Rylana · December 2014

This is not going to end well

Valnas · December 2014

come defend the server during the hours which you wish to have buffs.

IxSTALKERxI · December 2014

I won't take another scroll in azura's star if you leave my buff server thornblade alone. :P

MiyaTheUnbroken · December 2014

EP and DC both make appearances on Haderus. They take our keeps, claim emp for a few minutes, and then make a million threads about how awesome they are. What you're complaining about isn't caused by or exclusive to AD. This is not an AD vs. EP issue. It's PvP vs. PvE. PvP'ers don't give a *** about your buffs on any faction, and threads like this will only fuel them. If you want your buffs I suggest you learn to PvP.

xMovingTarget · December 2014

AD does it too on Chillrend EU. Just to annoy us i think

Dem bananas are annoying.

But who cares. It gets taken back again very quick usually.

Roechacca · December 2014

I don't buff server . M I Doin it wrong ?

Armitas · December 2014

EP are up in AD's buff server as well. Can't put an end to the buff servers by staying off them.

Rune_Relic · December 2014

I hate PVE buff servers TBH.
I am homed on Azuras and it constantly flips from red to yellow to blue depending on the time of day.
So when I am out PVE world my health damage and everything else goes up and down like a bloody yo-yo.
One minute I am epic and tough ..the next minute I am struggling against 3 NPCs...all because my stats are all over the place.

Not funny

Lose the PVE buffs and give me consistency.

Psilent · December 2014

Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

They're a thing, right? Like it's well established that each faction pretty much takes a single buff server and runs with it for their PvE content and we all just let it happen, right? Like it doesn't carry across PvP Servers anymore so you can't home one place and guest another?

Yes? No?

Whichever it is, Buff Servers are a thing and for the most part we respect and leave that *** alone, so could the AD stop messing with Azura's Star please? Like, late night guilds kinda need those buffs and at the hours we play, there isn't exactly an EP population that can go and take em back readily, so could you like, not do that stuff AD, just leave our stuff alone please.

Unless we do it to you.

If we do it to you, go ahead and do what you will because then that's just straight up fair as all hell.

lol Sorry, but Haderus is my home, if you don't like your buffs being taken away, then come defend. No faction deserves a buff server.

CrazedDark · December 2014

Whaaaat? Theres a thing called PvP? Oh nooooooo.

Yusuf · December 2014

Buffcampaigns are for weaklings

Maulkin · December 2014

What I like very much is how for me to get the good PvE stuff, like the best sets in the game or the undaunted passives which work everywhere, I have to PvE for days doing dailies, chasing achievements etc etc.

However when you look at it the other way round:

There are no Alliance War passives of any use whatsoever to PvE
The PvP gear is either pretty poor in comparison or anything decent has been acquired by PvErs long time ago because the sets have hardly changed since 1.3 and they're all BoE rather than BoP
The only useful thing out of PvP, the buffs, can be got just by selecting the right home campaign without having spent a minute inside Cyrodiil. Hooray!

And to top it all off, we have troll PvErs like the OP coming round and telling us "How dare you PvP in your PvP campaigns and try to get keeps and Emperor and stuff ".

Yay! How much I love the attention to PvP, @ZOS_BrianWheeler‌! Can you feel the sarcasm?

Here's some things to consider to encourage all types of players to spend more time in Cyrodiil:

Make some PvP sets worth fighting for with expensive AP prices that are BoP. Atm we only get 1 item per month and that's not even a set item. 30 days of fighting for one non-set item, let that sink in.
Add Alliance War passives that are generally helpful in and out of Cyrodiil, like the Undaunted passives.
Remove the bloody buffs from PvE already! It's been 7 months now and it's proven time and again that all they do is turn campaigns to buff servers.

Ghostbane · December 2014

Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

...readily, so could you like, not do that stuff AD, just leave our stuff alone please.

Unless we do it to you.

If we do it to you, go ahead and do what you will because then that's just straight up fair as all hell.

EP has been upsetting my buff server Thornblade for over a month. Deepest apologies I took your Azura scroll, if you leave off my buff campaign, I'll leave off yours.

Agrippa_Invisus · December 2014

Heaven forbid that a PvEr have to go out into the big, bad world of Cyrodiil for their coveted buffs.

LonePirate · December 2014

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

What I like very much is how for me to get the good PvE stuff, like the best sets in the game or the undaunted passives which work everywhere, I have to PvE for days doing dailies, chasing achievements etc etc.

However when you look at it the other way round:
There are no Alliance War passives of any use whatsoever to PvE

The PvP gear is either pretty poor in comparison or anything decent has been acquired by PvErs long time ago because the sets have hardly changed since 1.3 and they're all BoE rather than BoP

The only useful thing out of PvP, the buffs, can be got just by selecting the right home campaign without having spent a minute inside Cyrodiil. Hooray!

And to top it all off, we have troll PvErs like the OP coming round and telling us "How dare you PvP in your PvP campaigns and try to get keeps and Emperor and stuff ".

Yay! How much I love the attention to PvP, @ZOS_BrianWheeler‌! Can you feel the sarcasm?

Here's some things to consider to encourage all types of players to spend more time in Cyrodiil:
Make some PvP sets worth fighting for with expensive AP prices that are BoP. Atm we only get 1 item per month and that's not even a set item. 30 days of fighting for one non-set item, let that sink in.

Add Alliance War passives that are generally helpful in and out of Cyrodiil, like the Undaunted passives.

Remove the bloody buffs from PvE already! It's been 7 months now and it's proven time and again that all they do is turn campaigns to buff servers.

You specifically mentioned PVP passive skills. Personally, I find the active PVP skills - Rapid Manuevers, Caltrops and Purge - to be quite handy in PVE land, especially Purge. Yes, the PVP sets are almost worthless and the passives are of little use; but the regular skills are of more use in PVE than the Undaunted passives are of use in PVP.

Asgari · December 2014

I can't do dungeons without ma buffs guys! Oh lord lord lord praise thy buff server and keep ye safe

Maulkin · December 2014

LonePirate wrote: »

You specifically mentioned PVP passive skills. Personally, I find the active PVP skills - Rapid Manuevers, Caltrops and Purge - to be quite handy in PVE land, especially Purge. Yes, the PVP sets are almost worthless and the passives are of little use; but the regular skills are of more use in PVE than the Undaunted passives are of use in PVP.

That's your personal opinion not a fact though. Bone Surge and Mystic Orbs are used religiously by some groups, mine included. Especially since the passives now return you resources on activation.

And don't forget there's 3 PvE skills lines: 1) Undaunted 2) Mage's guild 3) Fighter's Guild. The combination of these 3 offer great skills and passives that are necessary for PvP

LonePirate · December 2014

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

You specifically mentioned PVP passive skills. Personally, I find the active PVP skills - Rapid Manuevers, Caltrops and Purge - to be quite handy in PVE land, especially Purge. Yes, the PVP sets are almost worthless and the passives are of little use; but the regular skills are of more use in PVE than the Undaunted passives are of use in PVP.

That's your personal opinion not a fact though. Bone Surge and Mystic Orbs are used religiously by some groups, mine included. Especially since the passives now return you resources on activation.

And don't forget there's 3 PvE skills lines: 1) Undaunted 2) Mage's guild 3) Fighter's Guild. The combination of these 3 offer great skills and passives that are necessary for PvP

Um, Bone Surge and Mystic Orbs are skills you or someone else activates unlike the two new Undaunted passives which are always on and a button does not need to be pressed to use them. While I agree those skills can be useful in PVP, your previous post was in reference to the passive Undaunted skills and not the active Undaunted skills. My comments were in relation to those Undaunted passive skills, and not the Undaunted active skills or any skills from the Fighters Guild or Mages Guild which were never included in this discussion until just now when you mentioned them.

You can freely disagree with my opinions but you can't change the parameters or subject of the debate in order to invalidate my point or justify your own. I still believe the PVP active skills are of more use and value in PVE encounters than the Undaunted passive skills are in PVP. Please formulate your own opinion if you wish.

badmojo · December 2014

I wish people would do something about the buff servers. I'm homed and actively defending on our buff server. The sad thing is that any time another faction tries anything, it's either an attempt to quickly flip Emp then leave, or they want to setup shop and farm AP defending an outpost or resource.

People complain about buff servers, then go off and always play in the popular campaign. If you want buff servers to disappear, make it impossible for them to exist.

AlnilamE · December 2014

I was wondering who the AD folks were on the weekend. Very well organized group.

decado0024_ESO · December 2014

ALL YOUR BUFFS ARE MINE. On a serious note though no you no longer get a buff server. A lot of ppl are having issues with the lag/crashes and AP trading of thornblade. They have moved and the reason we picked azuras was because we knew ppl would come fight us. The fact that the OP is upset because he "needs" these buffs that he doesn't want to ear to do content tells me that he "needs" to re-evaluate his char. You don't need PVP buffs to do PVE content u want that because your lazy. I'm sorry if you actually have to get off your butt and come try a part of the game that isn't pre programed but your gonna have to get over that. We are staying.

Sypher · December 2014

I was expecting something else coming into this thread..

Ehhhh...

Xexpo · December 2014

If you take away pvp buffs all together from pve land, no one will come to defend those otherwise dead servers.
Everyone will be pigeoned-holed into Thornblade with no alternatives for active pvp. Also, many uncontested emperors would likely be crowned.

Players have been harassing "buff" servers for many weeks now and it is quite enjoyable both ways (invading and defending). I also enjoy it as an alternative to zergblade.

DigitalHype · December 2014

Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

They're a thing, right? Like it's well established that each faction pretty much takes a single buff server and runs with it for their PvE content and we all just let it happen, right? Like it doesn't carry across PvP Servers anymore so you can't home one place and guest another?

Yes? No?

Whichever it is, Buff Servers are a thing and for the most part we respect and leave that *** alone, so could the AD stop messing with Azura's Star please? Like, late night guilds kinda need those buffs and at the hours we play, there isn't exactly an EP population that can go and take em back readily, so could you like, not do that stuff AD, just leave our stuff alone please.

Unless we do it to you.

If we do it to you, go ahead and do what you will because then that's just straight up fair as all hell.

Like, this has to be one of the most ridiculous posts we've seen, right?

Pyatra · December 2014

Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

They're a thing, right? Like it's well established that each faction pretty much takes a single buff server and runs with it for their PvE content and we all just let it happen, right? Like it doesn't carry across PvP Servers anymore so you can't home one place and guest another?

Yes? No?

Whichever it is, Buff Servers are a thing and for the most part we respect and leave that *** alone, so could the AD stop messing with Azura's Star please? Like, late night guilds kinda need those buffs and at the hours we play, there isn't exactly an EP population that can go and take em back readily, so could you like, not do that stuff AD, just leave our stuff alone please.

Unless we do it to you.

If we do it to you, go ahead and do what you will because then that's just straight up fair as all hell.

1.) Yes you do it too.
2.) The Haderus natives are very happy about this and wish it to continue. COME GET SOME!

Psilent · December 2014

Pyatra wrote: »

Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

They're a thing, right? Like it's well established that each faction pretty much takes a single buff server and runs with it for their PvE content and we all just let it happen, right? Like it doesn't carry across PvP Servers anymore so you can't home one place and guest another?

Yes? No?

Whichever it is, Buff Servers are a thing and for the most part we respect and leave that *** alone, so could the AD stop messing with Azura's Star please? Like, late night guilds kinda need those buffs and at the hours we play, there isn't exactly an EP population that can go and take em back readily, so could you like, not do that stuff AD, just leave our stuff alone please.

Unless we do it to you.

If we do it to you, go ahead and do what you will because then that's just straight up fair as all hell.

1.) Yes you do it too.
2.) The Haderus natives are very happy about this and wish it to continue. COME GET SOME!

Yup, we currently have the Emperor of Haderus on farm.