*excuse my english i dont speak very well but i will try to get this out there*
(this was pieced together from alot of sources pve and pvp)

i was a part of Ladys "44" group so no one too Elite but we were a small re-con/support raid for a guild that recently has gone "rouge" we heard and did alot for and with that guild and heard alot of the politics that went on in the council back when that was around

now before i get into what i wanted to post i wanted to give some back story

it was a time when AD was under immense pressure troll camping,double teaming.bugged score board, EP and DC got thousands of free points AD was supposed to LOSE but because a council was born AD had become more united then ever

and the game really felt like everyone was a part of something i had gone from a normal every other day player to someone a little more important in the server i log on and feel like there is the militia every war band was on the same team speak i would scroll down the TS and i would see all the biggest players anonymous,Perichor, Margarete,Lady,Moon Die, at one point i saw some alacrity etc etc. it was a blast being able to talk to some amazing players from the game and really change my build around theirs and the groups would pick up a lot of strats from every party anyway you get the point... unity was perfected and victory was achieved during ADs most crucial hour

so i ask in zone after being gone from the game for about a month where is lady i was typing 44 in zone and they told me he hadn't been on for a month i look at the boards and the guild i was originally referring to isn't there i ask where are they perhaps another server and then i was told they had moved to another faction i asked why and in tells from several people i got different answers it went from they didn't get the amount of hubris from us anymore to they just want to play the game in a different way to they want to make a point etc etc

now i see a lot of hate towards them on the forums and i see especially alot of hate towards them in zone i dont believe they were just farming emperors in AD because i saw them for every keep defense for the entire game since they first arrived in wabbajack every time i would type die in zone chat for a scroll quest and peri would have some awesome advice about pvp he and they made suicide resource a faction wide strategy now that does not sound like a farming guild that is a guild that really contributes to the faction i mean for crying out loud they paid for a team speak for us "pugs" as some have called me

i don't blame them for leaving i hope they are having a better time then here in AD and i hope they are more respected there because the trash talking in AD is getting old and i hate when so many people in our faction have so much to say about the guild and they aren't in it idk

and the best part and the worst part is the guild doesn't defend itself either they left the faction in the dark they take all the heat from people

and one last thing i noticed a lot of calling out in zone chat about skeles are here skeles are there accusing them of zerging so i get to one of these locations one day and there are about 8 of them and AD zergs them with about 25 and then goes on and says they suck the faction is better without them

AD lost its first camp since they left on a major server.

"they left to be on the winning team" i think they were leveling their alts it takes too much time to coordinate that and the one who posted this all i have to say is thats a pretty lame excuse because your guild didn't win it for us either its not that they left to be on the winning team as much as it is your guild didn't do a thing about winning

and thats my last point i asked in zone one day for a forward camp i got a tell form peri ill send you 5 right now and then in zone "Venatus will send you forward camps" i just think its a little propaganda if your like me and not in a main guild just pugging around solo ganking etc dont believe what you hear about the guild just look at the boards and put the pieces together AD lost a great guild and i have a feeling that it has a lot to do with the political parts that we don't know about and the current AD guilds aren't willing to tell STOP the hate STOP the rumors START building the faction the way they did and maybe ill agree that your guild is better then theirs


good luck

and again excuse my english and my typing
thor out