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So why do so many people seem to dislike AD on Thornblade (NA)?

  • Rylana
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    Face it, people only hate AD because thats my primary faction.
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  • D Fresh
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    Yes, you did help make it happen will give you that.
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  • demonlkojipub19_ESO
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    I think its more that its flat out overpopulated most of the time, and seemingly first to exploit most broken game things such as trials as seen at the start of the Trials.

    Plus I have observed them on several occasions using the lag bomb tactic to take keeps. DC does it too, so ive heard, but I haven't observed them so I can only only say that about AD, and most can. I even made a video of them doing it.
    Edited by demonlkojipub19_ESO on November 16, 2014 4:28PM
  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    D Fresh wrote: »
    Yes, you did help make it happen will give you that.

    *wraps his arms around Dshotz*

    now come back to my trailer and I'll show you what else I'll make happen.

    *bats his eyelashes*
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  • D Fresh
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    *runs far far away*
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  • jkirchner71ub17_ESO2
    I keep reading about "night capping" and how AD earned some hate for doing it over the months since launch and I can understand this. BUT keep in mind the most famous of "night capping" guilds is now among the ranks of EP. I don't think there is many who would deny this guild "night capped" for AD all the time since launch.

    That being said it really isn't fair to hold a grudge on anyone or an alliance for playing the game when it is their time to play. None of us can control this and to expect those who play when we think it is "night or morning" to not PvP is ridiculous. Perhaps Zeni will look closer on how the scores are calculated when player pops are in flux but to be honest I'd be afraid they'd mess this up bad and one or more alliances would get the short end of the stick.
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  • Subtomik
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    Red and yellow over here trying to win the campaigns. And blue is over here arguing in zone chat about why every horse in game is female.

    Yall were strategizing and we argued about horse socks. Big long socks for their long horse legs.
  • Nala_
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    and now EP has the highest pop at all times, so why do people still double team DC? just stop trying to justify why people hate each side, the only reason why people use to hate AD was because DiE was over there and all they did was spam troll camps on the other 2 factions, now theyre on EP and EP is just 1 giant zerg at all times, so take out your rage on them
  • Ifthir_ESO
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    Grim13 wrote: »
    ..because we've won most of the major (ie. highly populated) campaigns...

    Last campaign was won by EP.

    If we want to revisit ancient history first Wabba won by EP.

    Not sure how you have won most of the major campaigns.
  • Nala_
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    Ifthir_ESO wrote: »
    Grim13 wrote: »
    ..because we've won most of the major (ie. highly populated) campaigns...

    Last campaign was won by EP.

    If we want to revisit ancient history first Wabba won by EP.

    Not sure how you have won most of the major campaigns.

    they won wabba 2.0. thorn 1.0 and thorn 2.0, how are you not sure that theyve won more than you? you never learned maff?
  • Ifthir_ESO
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    Kaghei wrote: »
    Because ad doesnt realise when they and blue attack red its double teaming, or yellow and red attack blue.
    But when blue and red attack yellow the sky starts falling.
    Sure it happens more to Ad, but that because we take all the keeps and have emp most of the time. Having emp will lose you the campaign...

    I guess I was kind of surprised to see the facts agree with you. Seems AD is exceptionally good at getting Emperor on Thornblade. Seems odd they keep losing the campaigns with the Emperor stats so skewed. DC hasn't had Emperor since Naw Sunrest back in pre-September :o

    Guess DC guilds prefer to pick on pugs on other servers *shrug*
  • Nala_
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    Ifthir_ESO wrote: »
    Kaghei wrote: »
    Because ad doesnt realise when they and blue attack red its double teaming, or yellow and red attack blue.
    But when blue and red attack yellow the sky starts falling.
    Sure it happens more to Ad, but that because we take all the keeps and have emp most of the time. Having emp will lose you the campaign...

    I guess I was kind of surprised to see the facts agree with you. Seems AD is exceptionally good at getting Emperor on Thornblade. Seems odd they keep losing the campaigns with the Emperor stats so skewed. DC hasn't had Emperor since Naw Sunrest back in pre-September :o

    Guess DC guilds prefer to pick on pugs on other servers *shrug*

    you also have no idea how to use eso stats i guess, click the zoom button you slowpoke
  • Subtomik
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    Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

    I guess I was kind of surprised to see the facts agree with you. Seems AD is exceptionally good at getting Emperor on Thornblade. Seems odd they keep losing the campaigns with the Emperor stats so skewed. DC hasn't had Emperor since Naw Sunrest back in pre-September :o

    Guess DC guilds prefer to pick on pugs on other servers *shrug*

    Me and aerendyl were both DC emps this round of thorn, and prett was the cycle before that. Hehe ;)
    Edited by Subtomik on November 16, 2014 6:18PM
  • Ifthir_ESO
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    Which dates, doesn't seem to show for me.

    meh, either way, AD is good at getting Emp and pretty much nothing else
  • Arowe_eso
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    Subtomik wrote: »
    Me and aerendyl were both DC emps this round of thorn, and prett was the cycle before that. Hehe ;)

    I was about to say something too, ive been there helping to crown like 5 DC emps since the last time I saw Naw around. I miss his silence in mumble :(
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  • Nala_
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    Ifthir_ESO wrote: »
    Which dates, doesn't seem to show for me.

    meh, either way, AD is good at getting Emp and pretty much nothing else

    click the zoom button....lmao
  • Grim13
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    Ifthir_ESO wrote: »
    Grim13 wrote: »
    ..because we've won most of the major (ie. highly populated) campaigns...

    Last campaign was won by EP.

    If we want to revisit ancient history first Wabba won by EP.

    Not sure how you have won most of the major campaigns.

    Do you even math, breh?
  • Durham
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    Who cares fix adress or fix the lag lol !!!!
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  • Columba
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    Two reasons. AD kept taking the map during off hours and gained their wins that way again and again.

    Second AD used to be far worse impulse spammers than the other alliances and thus they were a lot less fun to fight.

    Lately the worst impulse spamming guild has moved to EP but they don't seems as successful anymore since people have learned to apply negates on their path.
    This right here. You lag out the game worse than does any other faction. Hence you are loathed.
  • Columba
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    Subtomik wrote: »
    Red and yellow over here trying to win the campaigns. And blue is over here arguing in zone chat about why every horse in game is female.

    Yall were strategizing and we argued about horse socks. Big long socks for their long horse legs.

    Why not? The lag prevents any actual playing, so zone chat is the only entertainment we can get.

  • themizario
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    Kill AD all day everyday until PvP is fixed.

    Why? Because all the devs play AD as well as the special guild's that devs have "test"
  • jkirchner71ub17_ESO2
    themizario wrote: »
    Kill AD all day everyday until PvP is fixed.

    Why? Because all the devs play AD as well as the special guild's that devs have "test"

    First I heard about this and here the rumor in AD is the devs were in DC but honestly who the hell knows. I'm sure there in EVERY faction based on the rumor mill. And what special guild is this as I have yet to meet them in AD?
    Edited by jkirchner71ub17_ESO2 on November 16, 2014 9:38PM
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  • Laggus
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    Subtomik wrote: »
    Red and yellow over here trying to win the campaigns. And blue is over here arguing in zone chat about why every horse in game is female.

    Yall were strategizing and we argued about horse socks. Big long socks for their long horse legs.

    This made me laugh..thx for doing that ;=)
  • Awetopsy1703
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    With server crash scroll resets , Lag battles , and uneven Pop peaks there is really no winners - in a broken game you get broken outcomes .
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  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    themizario wrote: »
    Kill AD all day everyday until PvP is fixed.

    Why? Because all the devs play AD as well as the special guild's that devs have "test"

    First I heard about this and here the rumor in AD is the devs were in DC but honestly who the hell knows. I'm sure there in EVERY faction based on the rumor mill. And what special guild is this as I have yet to meet them in AD?

    I heard TKO is secretly the Dev's guild.

    We should follow d'ecado around and gank him to make up for the server lag.
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  • JaJaLuka
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    Apparently all of the Dev's are supposed to have that big Z next to their names, we should find them...
    Will be even better when the justice system comes around :wink: so even if they don't come into Cyrodiil, we will find them.
    Edited by JaJaLuka on November 17, 2014 4:32PM
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  • Bramir
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    The answer is very simple. Nightcapping means we have to knock AD down and halfway bury them in the ground rather than just beat them to prevent a sudden reversal every night when we sleep. This will continue until a win is mathematically out of reach for AD.

    Please be sure to thank your nightcap crew for creating this situation!

  • RedShirtRob
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    Two population bars <> 2 * 1 population bar; this is so simple that I must apologize to the vast majority whom I suspect grok this.

    If each population bar represents 100 players, it's possible that a faction with one bar has 100 players, while a faction with 2 bars has 101 players; while this precise scenario is unlikely, it demonstrates the fallacy in claims that Faction X has twice the players in Faction Y because they have twice as many population bars.
  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    Bramir wrote: »
    The answer is very simple. Nightcapping means we have to knock AD down and halfway bury them in the ground rather than just beat them to prevent a sudden reversal every night when we sleep. This will continue until a win is mathematically out of reach for AD.

    Please be sure to thank your nightcap crew for creating this situation!

    Call it night capping, call it whatever you wish.

    The pre-maintenance timing of it, just to get uncontested points evaluations, is really the part that sticks in my craw.

    And you can't point to any timezone worth of players, really. There are numerous US based players staying up to flip the Thornblade NA Cyrodiil map while others are asleep.

    And from what's been intimated, it's AD who'll be taking the brunt of it again today.
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  • RedShirtRob
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    Call it night capping, call it whatever you wish.

    The pre-maintenance timing of it, just to get uncontested points evaluations, is really the part that sticks in my craw.

    And you can't point to any timezone worth of players, really. There are numerous US based players staying up to flip the Thornblade NA Cyrodiil map while others are asleep.

    And from what's been intimated, it's AD who'll be taking the brunt of it again today.

    I honestly don't understand this - I'm not just feigning ignorance to annoy people. {Insert insult here.} Are players supposed to back off n hours before maintenance? Do Red and Blue do that?

    And I think people are implying that the server continues to keep score at regular intervals during the maintenance window; if that's true, I think it should be changed.
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