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So why do so many people seem to dislike AD on Thornblade (NA)?

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I'm trying to understand this so the subject line has presented itself for what it is and what I'm particularly wondering about lately.

Explanations (reasonable and constructive) would be appreciated.
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  • Grim13
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    ..because we've won most of the major (ie. highly populated) campaigns...
  • Roselle
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    Grim13 wrote: »
    ..because we've won most of the major (ie. highly populated) campaigns...
    Fair enough, but it doesn't seem to be that black and white.
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  • DezIsDead
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    Ok yeah we've won all but one, but were in last place by 6k, if DC actually wants to win, getting one scroll from us won't do ****. Soooo what the hell is the point? While red pushes us why wouldn't they push red. Does this not make more sense?
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  • jkirchner71ub17_ESO2
    This is a bit of a loaded question but it does seem like AD is disliked pretty unanimously by both EP and DC now. Even when there is more strategic targets on the map and opportunities for one faction or another to push for some gains they continue to pound AD at Fare, which like tonight was the last redoubt. Just not sure what the reasons are but I'm sure they are pretty deep seeded from campaigns as far back as Auriel's Bow or Wabba. Before I came to AD four months ago I know all I heard in Ebonheart was about a certain AD guild and their tactics and methods in Cyrodiil. Maybe that stigma will be alleviated some since they moved elsewhere but my guess is the scars will never heal.

    That being said I generally hold a lot of respect for both of AD's opposing alliances.
    Edited by jkirchner71ub17_ESO2 on November 16, 2014 7:49AM
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  • Grim13
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    Roselle wrote: »
    Grim13 wrote: »
    ..because we've won most of the major (ie. highly populated) campaigns...
    Fair enough, but it doesn't seem to be that black and white.

    If not that, than I don't know.

    I would have said DiE... but they've moved on... so, ultimately, I have no idea.

    Personally, I think we're all swell!

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  • Kaghei
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    Because ad doesnt realise when they and blue attack red its double teaming, or yellow and red attack blue.
    But when blue and red attack yellow the sky starts falling.
    Sure it happens more to Ad, but that because we take all the keeps and have emp most of the time. Having emp will lose you the campaign...
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  • Columba
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    Because they are impluse lag spammers.
  • jkirchner71ub17_ESO2
    Columba wrote: »
    Because they are impluse lag spammers.

    You say this in practically every thread :P. Seriously all alliances have their fair share of Impulse spammers, fortunately we did lose a few "monkeys" to EP now so . . . . maybe . . . you will lighten up on us some :wink:

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  • Columba
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    AD still has exponentially more of those spammers.
  • rtc07
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    Because your pugs learned their tactics from DiE and Decibel and now all play like that. Hopefully the same doesn't happen to EP now that DiE is there. They're actually fun to fight other than that one cheesy guild that still exploits the scroll gates (don't know the guild name)
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  • kevlarto_ESO
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    I think it has to do when AD was the highest pop faction, night capping was extreme for awhile every time the other factions would log on the entire map would be yellow all scrolls were taken, I am sure after awhile the other factions got tired of it and thus the purple alliance emerged.

    Today AD is no longer that faction EP is now the dominate faction on the campaign, the old AD night cappers seem to be gone and I wonder how many of them even play any longer. Every once in a blue moon does the night capping even go on anymore.

    I think it's funny how I see all the impulse spammers about AD talk, I guess it is where your standing at the moment, I see huge amounts of EP spamming impulse I see them bunch up and run the ramparts spamming like crazy, in fact I remember when the tactic started, EP was supposed to be the creator of the tactic, I guess it just our perception, all three factions do it we are all dirty when it comes to things like this I don't even use a staff any longer. I have been mowed down by a couple of EP impulse trains if I did not get out of the way in time..LOL
    Edited by kevlarto_ESO on November 16, 2014 11:36AM
  • nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO
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    Two reasons. AD kept taking the map during off hours and gained their wins that way again and again.

    Second AD used to be far worse impulse spammers than the other alliances and thus they were a lot less fun to fight.

    Lately the worst impulse spamming guild has moved to EP but they don't seems as successful anymore since people have learned to apply negates on their path.
  • EIGHTS
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    I don't really hate any player in opposite faction. I just hope we will have a fair game. I enjoy the game with EP player, but AD (There are lots of bad memories).

    In addition, I hate Altmer since TES game. I really don't like Altmer!
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  • JaJaLuka
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    Two reasons. AD kept taking the map during off hours and gained their wins that way again and again.

    Second AD used to be far worse impulse spammers than the other alliances and thus they were a lot less fun to fight.

    Lately the worst impulse spamming guild has moved to EP but they don't seems as successful anymore since people have learned to apply negates on their path.

    Pretty much sums it up.
    From what I remember the major "night capping" came about from Auriel's Bow and AD was the worst Alliance for their impulse trains. Whether or not this is still the case is now irrelevant, these two things are what AD is known for now and I don't think that stigma will go away until the new generation of ESO PvP players come along without those memories.
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  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    For example -- AD has as much pop as EP and DC combined on Thornblade this morning and are trying to morning cap emperor for a man whose already had it back on Dawnbreaker.

    Things like this.
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    For example -- AD has as much pop as EP and DC combined on Thornblade this morning and are trying to morning cap emperor for a man whose already had it back on Dawnbreaker.

    Things like this.
    I wouldn't really say AD was equal to EP and DC combined from the resistance count AD got around this time.

    Also, Hello Kitty (a guild I co-founded) was mainly trying to push Emp for someone who has never gotten it before. Not everyone was for it, but my point mainly is not all AD was trying to push for what you're describing.
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  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    Roselle wrote: »
    For example -- AD has as much pop as EP and DC combined on Thornblade this morning and are trying to morning cap emperor for a man whose already had it back on Dawnbreaker.

    Things like this.
    I wouldn't really say AD was equal to EP and DC combined from the resistance count AD got around this time.

    Also, Hello Kitty (a guild I co-founded) was mainly trying to push Emp for someone who has never gotten it before. Not everyone was for it, but my point mainly is not all AD was trying to push for what you're describing.

    2 bars vs 1 bar of each of the others. It's the only way we have to guess any metrics.

    And dshotz was the #1 AD player at the time of this writing, and he has been emperor before.

    I know, I dethroned him last time.
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  • Subtomik
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    because aside from the few of you I like/respect. It's operation **** AD 24/7-365

    EP are just a bunch of lizards, drunks and self hating elves looking for a good time.

    That and the way khajiits talk. And all the stupid cat names.

    Remember cat lovers, your cat wouldn't lift a paw to help while you were being murdered with a rake.

    Oh and the map flips before server resets
  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    Subtomik wrote: »
    Oh and the map flips before server resets

    These are especially infuriating. AD does this to get a few free uncontested points evaluations and that's just poor form right there.

    Hence the vigorous pounding AD received after the last one.
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  • RedTalon
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    I hate everyone with equal zeal. So not a good question
  • TheBull
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    Night cappers. They literally destroy the game.
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    TheBull wrote: »
    Night cappers. They literally destroy the game.

    I seem to recall Dawnbreaker 2.0 being the invasion of the red nightcappers and Chillrend 1.0 the invasion of the blue nightcappers

    What do you have to say about that?
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  • Shadowsan
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    I Agree with why AD gets so much hate as noted above.

    Wabbajak 1 - AD was nightcapping on another campaign EP wins campaign.
    Wabbajack 1.5 - AD nighcappers now here. AD wins the shortened campaign.

    Thornblade 1 (Aug) - AD nightcaps map last week+ and easily wins campaign.
    Thornblade 2 (Sept) AD now adds capping map before server maintenace to its arsenal of strategies. 3-5 hour uncontested points gains. And caps evernight for last 4 days to win campaign.
    Thornblade 3 (Oct) - AD still grabbing map before maintenance but the nightcapping is highly diminished and did not occur during final days of campaign. EP wins campaign

    I know that for alot of EP the two main playstyles that generated alot of hate are:
    1) Nightcapping - when you log in and map is all yellow - there is only one choice of who you focus on.
    2) Maintenace flips. As witnesses the last few times this has occurred AD creates huge amounts of hostility by using this cheesy tactic to grab some easy points. Seems to be easily offset by gettin <50 points over the next few hours. Both Red/Blue apparently get very incensed by this and will gladly push you to your spawn points for a few hours to express our mutual dismay. I would keep you there for days but nonetheless most peeps get bored and then stat attacking blue or the B-zerg starts rolling on our keeps to the north.

    When AD continues with, acceptable in game - despised by other two factions, cheesy way to get points. You should expect the level of animosity to continue.

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  • D Fresh
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    Actually we were trying to get emp. for Luna all night first. We were very close at one point, but reds somehow managed to ninja cap behind the AD push. We kept pushing throughout the night and had 2 keeps left for quite a while there. Somehow I got ahead of Luna again during this, so it turned into an emp. push for me instead. I really do want Luna to get emp. They have worked hard, but that does not mean I am going to stop playing if they decide to log either. That being said, AD does not have more pop on than the other 2 factions normally, and its not AD's fault EP and DC have to act like a bunch of pissed on little kids and constantly double team us. We get it you don't like us, but guess what? We don't like either one of you either. Funny how your 2 sides cry a foul about AD outnumbering you, but continue to push on us sometimes when we are at 2 bars and you both are locked or at 3. Furthermore, a lot of the AD you claim to 'still be salty about' from previous campaigns ARE ON YOUR SIDE NOW. So before you qq (oh wait that's every forum post to date almost) take a look in the mirror, because it seems like the behavior you condemn is also what you have come to embrace.
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  • MiyaTheUnbroken
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    TheBull wrote: »
    Night cappers. They literally destroy the game.

    I think you mean figuratively.
  • Laggus
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    Meh..its because we're awesome your not =P Its true AD forgoes sleep and sets thier alarm clocks to wake us all up at 4am to nightcap the map yellow! Seriously if this is what you think, then thats what you think.
  • D Fresh
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    Roselle wrote: »
    For example -- AD has as much pop as EP and DC combined on Thornblade this morning and are trying to morning cap emperor for a man whose already had it back on Dawnbreaker.

    And dshotz was the #1 AD player at the time of this writing, and he has been emperor before.

    I know, I dethroned him last time.

    Lol and this is comical. Mr. Invisus likes to claim that 'he' and 'he alone' dethroned me apparently. I guess you forgot about that huge red zerg that had 3 bars pop to our one that night. I will always have respect for you sir, and are pretty chill to talk to in game too, but this claim you have made here is just comical.
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  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    D Fresh wrote: »

    Lol and this is comical. Mr. Invisus likes to claim that 'he' and 'he alone' dethroned me apparently. I guess you forgot about that huge red zerg that had 3 bars pop to our one that night. I will always have respect for you sir, and are pretty chill to talk to in game too, but this claim you have made here is just comical.

    *pokes*

    I organized it with Zaz, ya goober. It wasn't just randomness.

    *pokepokepoke*

    Plus, I was standing on that flag in Roebeck when it happened.

    Maybe I take too much credit for it, but I was there, and I did help make it happen.
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