What's the use of gold in end game?

timidobserver · November 2014

brandon wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

Gold is for the players that has fun ripping off those players that just has to have the new thing that comes out every new patch like the Dwemer motif stuff.

Well to be fair, if the players aren't willing to find the new things on their own even if it takes longer, then why should the players selling it not try to take advantage of it?

I didn't say they shouldn't.

Lizenya · November 2014

Thechemicals wrote: »

Lizenya wrote: »

Since I got my bank to max slots i see my gold just piling up down there in the corner of my screen. I really wonder what's the point to even have gold in the game when you can't spend it on anything you want...

For the builds that I want to use every single set is bound on pickup:
Master weapons -> bound on pickup
V14 Aether sets -> bound on pickup
even normal Aether sets -> bound on pickup
Wormcult set -> bound on pickup
new boss heads -> bound on pickup
shoulders form boss sets, almost impossible to get when looking for a specific one -> bound on pickup
the new improved trial sets -> bound on pickup (guess here, didn't get one yet)

Why?

This system leads to
- finishing hard content feeling unrewarding, because you can't sell what you don't need yourself
- gold being almost completely useless after you've reached a certain point in the game
- people who prefer trading or crafting can't get many of the items
- guild stores are stuffed with the same items over and over, reducing their prices into oblivion and making gold even more useless

My suggestion would be to make all those sets bound on equip, which makes sense to remove items from the game, after they were used once.

For bind on pickup the only reason I can see is to make it more time consuming to get the sets together, but this is mostly causing frustration along the way with the things you get and don't need. I would greatly prefer reduced drop rates for all those sets over this bind on pickup system. Atleast then I could offer to buy boss shoulders for 1m or 2...

If there are any advantages of the current system that I just don't see, please enlighten me.
Also suggentions on what to use gold on are very welcome

The other feedback youve been given to edit the title is correct. This isnt about gold, but that you dont like bound items. If you seriously dont know what to do with your guild then you need to learn more about craft potions, craft materials, repairs, repair kits,upgrading gear up to epic, Cost of enchanting with glyphs, Buying extremely rare items or any item you simply dont want to farm, helping guildies and friends who may not have as much gold, buying horses, feeding horses, buying cyrodiil equipment, buying gems, investing in alt characters+everything listed above for them....i mean seriously i can do this all day. Change your topic title.

So many ideas, but I think you didn't hit the point I'm talking about yet...

Thechemicals wrote: »

craft potions, craft materials

I can craft everything I want except for some last missing traits

Thechemicals wrote: »

repairs

not an issue in terms of gold

Thechemicals wrote: »

repair kits

useless

Thechemicals wrote: »

upgrading gear up to epic

EPIC??? I have everything in legendary and hundreds of upgrade mats in my bank to upgrade every future set also to legendary in the blink of an eye

Thechemicals wrote: »

Cost of enchanting with glyphs

It's not very expensive and it also dosen't take that long to lvl. Have i t maxed on 6 chars and don't see why I should put much effort in the last 2

Thechemicals wrote: »

Buying extremely rare items

Yes I've bought a few warlock rings when I saw them offered, but I don't need them and now they are just lying around... (I think it was Beesting who sold one^^) Most other rare items are bound, that's why I was mentioning them, because I also had the idea of spending gold for items I want to have

Thechemicals wrote: »

helping guildies and friends who may not have as much gold

sure thing, but like I said before, that can't be the only thing to do with your gold

Thechemicals wrote: »

buying horses, feeding horses

done

Thechemicals wrote: »

buying cyrodiil equipment

what for when I don't need it for my build?

Thechemicals wrote: »

buying gems

gems? like soul gems? really?

Thechemicals wrote: »

i mean seriously i can do this all day

For me there is nothing to do there anymore

Beesting wrote: »

I bought a few missing pieces of the shroud of the lich set and upgraded it to legendary.
That was my use of end game gold.

Unfortunately most people don't know how good this set is, so nobody is farming it to sell. Atleast on EU server in all the guild stores you will only find one robe and nothing else. No way around the farming

Spacegato · November 2014

babylon wrote: »

I stack it up like Scrooge McDuck and go swimming in it before logging off for the night.

I thought off this when I saw your picture:

AlexDougherty · November 2014

For an endgame Character, once they have their gear, Gold becomes an irrelevance.

They could buy and feed a new mount, but most have the mounts they want.
They can buy stuff, especially motifs, but again most will have already done so.
They could lend it to a mate.
They could also start a new character, transfer the majority of their gold, and plunge in, but when that character hits endgame, same problem.

Most MMOs have an endgame money problem, but a lack of vanity items means it's a touch more pronounced. Mind you the fact there is nothing to buy, means people are not constantly buying stuff, forcing prices up, handy for new characters.

Epona222 · November 2014

Lizenya wrote: »

Artemis wrote: »

Ourorboros wrote: »

Artemis wrote: »

If you don't need your gold, send it to me. I'll use it to buy potions/food That's what you actually need gold for in end game.

Not if you make those yourself. I have quite a bit of gold. I'll use it for Dwemer chapters if I can't find those I miss (but only when prices drop a lot-that's how you keep gold). I assume there will be future upgrades where my gold will be handy. But other than that, I only use gold for repairs. Totally self-sufficient for other needs.

I can make those myself as well. But in order to make enough you need to farm a lot. For example, one Vet DSA run can take up to 200 potions. To craft that much I would need 150 flowers of 3 kinds (50 of each). Sure, you can go pick them up, but that will take time. And what if you want to do runs every night for some time? Say 3-4 runs in a row?

One Vet DSA run takes 4-5h, I doubt you do 3-4 in a row every night

And for the pots, yes I do buy those as well. 200 pots are about 20k. If you find just one ring you will get some 50-70k. So you see doing DSA actually makes me get more gold.
And btw DSA is the only content where I find every single run rewarding, because there atleast most loot is not bound

Epona222 wrote: »

Do you just play 1 character?

I play 3 chars, only the main one is v14 tho. All 3 have the horses they need and inventory is maxed on all 8 to store stuff.

Of course that might not be a problem for many people yet because I play since launch and play pretty much every day, but I think that more people will start to experience the same the longer the game is around...

I certainly hope so, I have played since early access (beta too, but that doesn't have any bearing on my current in-game finances), and I seem to be permanently short of cash still - I would welcome a respite from being permanently broke in game!!!

Govalon · November 2014

I have this problem also. Nothing to spend gold on and then I get expensive rare drop from arena. What to do with that? I could sell it but why? Gold is already piling up and it is useless to me. I could give it away for free but why? I run hard content just to give those rewards away?

Sublime · November 2014

Govalon wrote: »

I have this problem also. Nothing to spend gold on and then I get expensive rare drop from arena. What to do with that? I could sell it but why? Gold is already piling up and it is useless to me. I could give it away for free but why? I run hard content just to give those rewards away?

For the fun?

astro74 · November 2014

Most money on char when unsubbing wins!

Lizenya · November 2014

AlexDougherty wrote: »

For an endgame Character, once they have their gear, Gold becomes an irrelevance.

This really makes me sad

It's exactly my problem that I don't have my gear but still gold doesn't help me anything.

BRogueNZ · November 2014

I'm still trying to think why it matters there isn't.

I'll get back to you.

niocwy · November 2014

Legendary Gear. Potions. Respecs. Purple motifs. Repair.

Lovelyn · November 2014

Quit braggin' and give me your unwanted gold!

Cuyler · November 2014

Charity?

Thechemicals · November 2014

You think repair kits are useless huh? You are definately a novice dungeoneer lol...or a god like pro that has never had gear break in a dungeon. I was doing Veteran crypt of hearts the other night and trying to get the hard mode challenge (tank 4 wraiths while he picks up sword) and the guy was wrecking us, we had to have someone mail us repair kits because the 10+ kits each one of us had broke. As far as potions.....between cyrodiil and veteran dungeons- i could go through 100 potions easy.

1.Respecing,
2.Buying the new sets- most pieces are selling for 25k-35k. Even dreugh amulets are selling for 25k.
3.Buying potions. Right now its actually cheaper to buy the potions you want than make them. Unless of course you dont drink 20-50 potions in trial/pvp/dungeons.
4. Dwemer
5. Bidding on an trader, that can sometimes go as high as 200k

Also- meant epic as legendary. Sorry.