no no no, crushing shock is NOT a projectile.....volatile familiar, NOT a projectile (though that one is random and does not always get reflected)
prototypefb wrote: »this spell is too OP and should be changed to either use 75-90% users magicka or reflect 1 projectile per second top
AsweetRoll wrote: »Great, another reflect thread. To clear things up
•Anything that flies through the air is a projectile. If it does not fly through the air, it is not a projectile.
•Also I believe only one of the tri attacks from crushing shock is reflected but I could be wrong, I know it used to be this way.
This is the DKs defense spell, every class has it and every class needs it.
DK= Reflect and Cinder
Templar= blazing shield, blinding flashes
NB= shadow image, sap essence
Sorc= Streak, negate
It's all about using the right spec and playing well. The people I see most whine about reflect are sorcs which only have one projectile ability and if they play smart they shouldn't have a problem with DK. Templar has 2 projectiles back can use theor single target reflect which will reflect it back at DK and NB has cripple and funnel health which they also have to use wisely. People whining about the skill on the thread need to l2P.
AsweetRoll wrote: »Great, another reflect thread. To clear things up
•Anything that flies through the air is a projectile. If it does not fly through the air, it is not a projectile.
•Also I believe only one of the tri attacks from crushing shock is reflected but I could be wrong, I know it used to be this way.
This is the DKs defense spell, every class has it and every class needs it.
DK= Reflect and Cinder
Templar= blazing shield, blinding flashes
NB= shadow image, sap essence
Sorc= Streak, negate
It's all about using the right spec and playing well. The people I see most whine about reflect are sorcs which only have one projectile ability and if they play smart they shouldn't have a problem with DK. Templar has 2 projectiles back can use theor single target reflect which will reflect it back at DK and NB has cripple and funnel health which they also have to use wisely. People whining about the skill on the thread need to l2P.
Seriously, how does it still reflect non projectile spells? @ZOS_AJ @ZOS_PaulSage Will it ever work properly, or will it always shut down a good good chunk of spells/skills?
AsweetRoll wrote: »Great, another reflect thread. To clear things up
•Anything that flies through the air is a projectile. If it does not fly through the air, it is not a projectile.
AsweetRoll wrote: »Great, another reflect thread. To clear things up
•Anything that flies through the air is a projectile. If it does not fly through the air, it is not a projectile.
Restoration staff heavy attack burrows it's way to the target under the ground, i guess?
TequilaFire wrote: »"A projectile is any object that once projected or dropped continues in motion by its own inertia and is influenced only by the downward force of gravity. By definition, a projectile has a single force that acts upon it - the force of gravity."
Quote source is www.physicsclassroom.com.
Now the only debate is magical energy an "object" and is it affected by gravity?
AsweetRoll wrote: »Great, another reflect thread. To clear things up
•Anything that flies through the air is a projectile. If it does not fly through the air, it is not a projectile.

AsweetRoll wrote: »Great, another reflect thread. To clear things up
•Anything that flies through the air is a projectile. If it does not fly through the air, it is not a projectile.
This is not how projectiles are defined. One would have to define "fly" as something where the main force acting is, in our case, gravity, which in some cases applies, in most however, not. Im not even going to mention the fact that you said fly through the "air".
Take a bird for example, as long as its not flapping its wings, its acting as a projectile because its following a projectile motion. As soon as it does flap its wings, its no longer a projectile by definition. In both cases the bird is flying.
Now, you could argue that rockets are considered projectiles even though they are self propelled, and I would have to say that is only the case if they follow a projectile motion, and then we could probably argue about many other things.
Anyway I'm drifting off: beams of light, just like magic beams or rays as one would assume, do not follow a projectile motion(* ).
As there is no definition in the description of a skill wether and how its affected by gravity or not, or if it follows a projectile motion, so the only way we can assume wether a skill is a projectile or not is through its animation.
In our cases:
Crystal Fragment: magically formed crystals, which (most likely) are going to have a specific mass, thus affected by gravity -> projectile. Can be reflected? Yes, working as intended. Now you could argue that one morph follows a projectile motion while the other doesn't, but we'll let the DKs have that one, shall we?
Force Shock (and its morphs): magical beam of light or energy (the effects are fire, lightning and frost damage, which itself makes little sense in real world physics). The animation can show it bending in all directions, meaning it is not affected by gravity nor does it follow a projectile motion -> not a projectile. Should not be reflected.
(* ) Now mind you, in fact gravity, or better, gravitational mass, DOES affect light in a certain way, according to Einsteins special relativity. You can read up on detail about that, overly simplified though: gravity bending space, light still moves straight -> looks bent.
Now, I doubt this fact changes the definition of projectiles in our case though, because if we go that much into detail we could see that the definition of a projectile itself is flawed and not perfectly viable to define skills (especially if a undefined component such as magic comes into play).
TLDR: Force shock should not be reflected, because of science.
The laws of physics do not have to apply to magic - this is why the correct definition of wether something is a projectile or not, in the end, is up to the game designers - like everything else.
TLDR_TLDR: They gon' do whatevs they feel like works for them anways. Meanwhile, here's a picture of a goat. A goat is not a projectile.
Well, most of the time that is.