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Can I give back my Streak for a heal and some direct damage?
Jahosefat
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It seems the effectiveness of all other sorc class abilities have been kept low because of sorc's ultra high mobility. Being super strong healers or direct damage dealers with high mobility would be OP, which is why I think sorc healing and damage has been kept low.
So this is a sorc saying that giving one class very high mobility in an open world pvp setting such as cyr may have been a bad idea.
So can I give streak back and get some heals and direct damage? I promise to never use it in a trolling fashion again.
Edited by Jahosefat on November 10, 2014 6:29PM So this is a sorc saying that giving one class very high mobility in an open world pvp setting such as cyr may have been a bad idea.
So can I give streak back and get some heals and direct damage? I promise to never use it in a trolling fashion again.
Joeshock- AD NA AB Thorn Chill Sorc New Eden Low Sec Roamer
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Maulkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Heals alone won't do it. You need a way to recover a lot of stamina if you're just gonna stand there. Sorc is the only class with no class skills or passives that recover stamina.
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Jahosefat✭✭✭✭MormondPayne_EP wrote: »
^ Sorc is only class with no 1.) Stam/blocking buffs 2.) Non-channeled self heal. With the nerfs to shield stacking now we have.... streak. Oh and absorption field. What should I do with the other 8 slots? Fill them with guild and weapon abilities...
Outside of steak and absorption field the sorc abilities are feeling pretty pitiful ATM.Joeshock- AD NA AB Thorn Chill Sorc New Eden Low Sec Roamer
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Gooey✭✭✭MormondPayne_EP wrote: »
^ Sorc is only class with no 1.) Stam/blocking buffs 2.) Non-channeled self heal. With the nerfs to shield stacking now we have.... streak. Oh and absorption field. What should I do with the other 8 slots? Fill them with guild and weapon abilities...
Outside of steak and absorption field the sorc abilities are feeling pretty pitiful ATM.
You seem to forget 1. crystal frag 2. mages wrath 3. crushing shock 4.immovable 5. velocious curse
second bar 1. healing ward 2. conjured ward 3. mutagen 4. daedric mines 5. lightning form
There's a starter build for you
P.S. Add streak in where you pleaseEdited by Gooey on November 10, 2014 10:20PM4 -
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✭✭i would love for surge to heal off all damage, and then of course for a lot less2 -
Jahosefat✭✭✭✭MormondPayne_EP wrote: »
^ Sorc is only class with no 1.) Stam/blocking buffs 2.) Non-channeled self heal. With the nerfs to shield stacking now we have.... streak. Oh and absorption field. What should I do with the other 8 slots? Fill them with guild and weapon abilities...
Outside of steak and absorption field the sorc abilities are feeling pretty pitiful ATM.
You seem to forget 1. crystal frag 2. mages wrath 3. crushing shock 4.immovable 5. velocious curse
second bar 1. healing ward 2. conjured ward 3. mutagen 4. daedric mines 5. lightning form
There's a starter build for you
Um no, sorry, have you actually played this since 1.5? This is a perfectly viable build for questing and dying to snipers.
This sort of build would work great if you were not taking damage and can free cast on someone. However, you are going to be in trouble if you start taking burst damage in bar 1 and are at 10% health by the time you get to bar 2 (snipers, nb). At that point, mutagen is a really slow heal, and healing ward (after they fix it) will take at least 6 seconds to get that heal. In the meantime, you can't switch back to your dps bar because you are at 30% health and need to spam shields while your health recovers. If your health does recover, and you can get back to dps'n, you now have low mag from shield spamming. So you can now get 2-4 shards off before you run out of mag (while sitting in immovable casting---costing FULL mag on a not cheap spell) which will probably be rolled dodged because the travel time is so slow and obvious.
So IMO the build you proposed is terrible, and offered by a person who has never played that build.Edited by Jahosefat on November 10, 2014 10:41PMJoeshock- AD NA AB Thorn Chill Sorc New Eden Low Sec Roamer
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Jahosefat✭✭✭✭Ifthir_ESO wrote: »
1.) NB stam recovery buff is what I was reffering to (30% stam regen right?). That is a block buff.
2.) I said NB had healing options not available to sorcs; meaning nb dont have to have a resto staff equipped to heal.
[Edit]: Lol and don't bring crit surge into this, we all know it is trash in pvp because of unreliability/easily countered by block.Edited by Jahosefat on November 10, 2014 10:46PMJoeshock- AD NA AB Thorn Chill Sorc New Eden Low Sec Roamer
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Jahosefat✭✭✭✭Ifthir_ESO wrote: »
All sorts of wacky builds can work in good groups. Does not mean it is a viable build for 1v1 or small group play.
Edited by Jahosefat on November 10, 2014 10:49PMJoeshock- AD NA AB Thorn Chill Sorc New Eden Low Sec Roamer
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Leovolao✭✭✭✭✭MormondPayne_EP wrote: »
^ Sorc is only class with no 1.) Stam/blocking buffs 2.) Non-channeled self heal. With the nerfs to shield stacking now we have.... streak. Oh and absorption field. What should I do with the other 8 slots? Fill them with guild and weapon abilities...
Outside of steak and absorption field the sorc abilities are feeling pretty pitiful ATM.
You seem to forget 1. crystal frag 2. mages wrath 3. crushing shock 4.immovable 5. velocious curse
second bar 1. healing ward 2. conjured ward 3. mutagen 4. daedric mines 5. lightning form
There's a starter build for you
Um no, sorry, have you actually played this since 1.5? This is a perfectly viable build for questing and dying to snipers.
This sort of build would work great if you were not taking damage and can free cast on someone. However, you are going to be in trouble if you start taking burst damage in bar 1 and are at 10% health by the time you get to bar 2 (snipers, nb). At that point, mutagen is a really slow heal, and healing ward (after they fix it) will take at least 6 seconds to get that heal. In the meantime, you can't switch back to your dps bar because you are at 30% health and need to spam shields while your health recovers. If your health does recover, and you can get back to dps'n, you now have low mag from shield spamming. So you can now get 2-4 shards off before you run out of mag (while sitting in immovable casting---costing FULL mag on a not cheap spell) which will probably be rolled dodged because the travel time is so slow and obvious.
So IMO the build you proposed is terrible, and offered by a person who has never played that build.
I actually use a somewhat similar build to what he posted, since 1.5 it's been harder, no doubt about it. But I can still 1v1 people just fine and do some 1vX against bad players.tea pot
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Jahosefat✭✭✭✭MormondPayne_EP wrote: »
^ Sorc is only class with no 1.) Stam/blocking buffs 2.) Non-channeled self heal. With the nerfs to shield stacking now we have.... streak. Oh and absorption field. What should I do with the other 8 slots? Fill them with guild and weapon abilities...
Outside of steak and absorption field the sorc abilities are feeling pretty pitiful ATM.
You seem to forget 1. crystal frag 2. mages wrath 3. crushing shock 4.immovable 5. velocious curse
second bar 1. healing ward 2. conjured ward 3. mutagen 4. daedric mines 5. lightning form
There's a starter build for you
Um no, sorry, have you actually played this since 1.5? This is a perfectly viable build for questing and dying to snipers.
This sort of build would work great if you were not taking damage and can free cast on someone. However, you are going to be in trouble if you start taking burst damage in bar 1 and are at 10% health by the time you get to bar 2 (snipers, nb). At that point, mutagen is a really slow heal, and healing ward (after they fix it) will take at least 6 seconds to get that heal. In the meantime, you can't switch back to your dps bar because you are at 30% health and need to spam shields while your health recovers. If your health does recover, and you can get back to dps'n, you now have low mag from shield spamming. So you can now get 2-4 shards off before you run out of mag (while sitting in immovable casting---costing FULL mag on a not cheap spell) which will probably be rolled dodged because the travel time is so slow and obvious.
So IMO the build you proposed is terrible, and offered by a person who has never played that build.
I actually use a somewhat similar build to what he posted, since 1.5 it's been harder, no doubt about it. But I can still 1v1 people just fine and do some 1vX against bad players.
Don't misunderstand me, I've killed hordes of squishy bowmen since 1.5 with crushing shock spam. 1v1 doesn't even really seem fair, but I think that is a problem with stam builds rather than sorcs (roll dodge does nothing to avoid channeled heavy attacks
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My point with the post is not that an effective build CAN'T be made, but that sorcs are lagging behind the other classes in overall effectiveness. Why roll a sorc is my question? What can we do that other classes can't do better? Run away and drop a silence bubble? I have no problem killing most people on every class 1v1 with my sorc (a good player on any class can be hard to kill) I just think it would be a lot easier to achieve the success I've had on another class. And it breaks my sorc heart to reroll
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Gooey✭✭✭Ifthir_ESO wrote: »
All sorts of wacky builds can work in good groups. Does not mean it is a viable build for 1v1 or small group play.
Cough I just did a complete small group 1v1 build cough.Edited by Gooey on November 11, 2014 5:31AM2 -
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✭✭✭✭No No No! Streak is the only thing IMO that makes a Sorc viable, and good sorcs know how and when to use it.
If I had a choice between a DD ability and Streak...I would choose streak every time....and I want a DD ability for the Sorc, but not at the expense of Streak.Rinaldo Gandolphi-Breton Sorcerer Daggerfall Covenant
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Nala_✭✭✭✭unless you like to be in an organized group where you can spam negates, you should reroll your sorc to a nb or dk3