I do blacksmithing for the chance of getting nirncrux and provisioning and enchanting because they're quick and easy. I'd do alchemy too, but it's bugged. Woodworking and clothing aren't worth it, IMO.

I have done the blacksmithing, clothing and woodworking dallies 5 times now and each time it costs me 80-100 nightwood, void ingots, shadowhide or void cloth.

So this week I used 400-500 of each of these refined materials and in return each day I get about 300 gold, a repair kit and some worthless trait stones or some white junk item. I don't even break even cost wise and that's not even considering the time it takes to farm these materials

15 turn-ins and not one survey map. Bad RNG? Maybe, but this daily certainly isn't worth it IMHO.

Just another great idea totally f*cked up by the developers because their stupid implementation.

I find the writs useful for the crafts where I'm not at 50 yet. And provisioning gets you some nice stuff.

It seems to me that with the price of Nirncrux coming down and the low odds of getting the right survey, max level crafters who just want the Nirncrux can save their time and buy it with the money they make refining and selling the mats and tempers.

I've gained some good XP from the enchanting writs and the two survey reports that I've received have paid off very well and decently well, respectively. My enchanting is only in the upper 30s which helps keep enchanting writs viable for me, for now.

The one survey report that I received from a wood writ was also rewarding. But there's been a huge loss otherwise considering time and materials.

It's the same bs with the BS writs. But I'm looking for that Nirn' survey report so I'll keep trying...

I get the concept but it doesn't leave much for the experienced, maxed-out crafter. It would be nice if the lack of experience gained was offset by a break-even payment.

I think they are a great idea if the rewards were appropriate. But just like many other great ideas in the game, the rewards simply do not outweigh the time and effort.

Just got a whole Amethyst from a Blacksmith's pack. So I'd say all in all, worth the time and effort, considering the difficulty of getting these. We'll worth the 5 voidsteel daggers, 2 helmets and bracers.

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Epona222 wrote: »

I think it's one of those things that you either love or hate.

If you look at it in purely financial terms, it's probably not worth doing them, the mats you use outweighs the reward probably 9 times out of 10.

If you enjoy doing them however, then it is a nice extra thing to do, it's also good for characters that are mostly focused on crafting as you can earn a small bit of XP (and some inspiration if you're not already maxed).

I do them - not because I am getting great rewards for doing so, but because I enjoy doing them. If you don't enjoy them, then it may not be worth it to you, so just don't do them.

How can you enjoy them? There is no skill required. You get the materials, craft the gear and bring it somewhere. The intellectual stimulation of these quests is 0. How can this be fun in any way?

(Not trying to be offensive here, just honestly intrigued.)

It is a fair enough question, however I am slightly disconcerted that you need to ask it, you do know that people like different things, right? We don't all want to spend all our time fighting stuff!

I just enjoy pottering around town and crafting stuff, going out and finding mats. It's also not been pointless for me, since I made the post you have quoted I have earned 5 nirncrux and 2 kuta from survey maps that are part of the crafting writ rewards, so despite it starting out as just something I was having fun doing, it's actually been quite lucrative.

Just next time you struggle to imagine someone enjoying something different to you, try to remember that we are all individuals and have different likes and dislikes. Just because you don't enjoy something, doesn't mean it's worthless to others. If you don't like crafting writs, just don't do them, no-one is forcing you to.

EDIT double post.

The worst thing about the crafting writs is that they are mat sinks.

ZOS designed them so that there is a secondary use to the materials beside crafting so that eventually the prices for the mats will rise and farming (and grinding) will be more rewarding.

But that to me is a terrible approach. Watching your precious mats take the form of a useless low level helmet and then vanish into nothingness is terrible in terms of giving the user a feeling of achievement. Add the reward lottery where the minimum reward is much much lower than the ticket price and you've got a painfully bad system.

There are so many ways they could have done this better. And since this is an MMO I would have expected them to create a tool that improves trade between players: Have the writs created by other players who get the crafted items and pay the reward.

It is SOOOO FRUSTRATING to see them take an idea with great potential (in terms of creating an interactive open world game) and just turn it into a collection of monotonous, mind numbing and sense-of-achievement-killing fetch quests.

I don't mind the bugs or the balancing issues, but this kind of game design is a huge motivation killer.

I had hoped that ESO would be innovative, that it would do for the MMO world what the Elder Scrolls series has done for the single player sector, but it just isn't.