Critical Charge is bugged

RinaldoGandolphi · November 2014

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom‌ @ZOS_TristanK‌

Hi,

I am reporting that the Critical Charge two handed skill and its morphs are currently bugged. The Skill does well over 1200k damage even if your blocking with a full stamina bar and completely ignores the impentrable trait which i have 7 pieces of Impentrable gear....this is WAY MORE OP then those complaining about Snipe which isn't

Critical Charge is bugged and currently is:

1. unable to be dodged

2. Impossible to block since it completely ignores it and hits for 1.2 k damage if you block it or not even with a full stamina bar.

3. You can streak through even starting the Streak before the user starts Critical Charge, and Critical Cahge will ignore your streak and hammer you for 1.2 even while your in lighting form, with no damage to him whatsoever.

I filed an in-game bug report on this, and im posting it here...its needs to be fixed...this is as bad as the Silver Bolts glitch a while back....and in the last few days it seems 4 out of 10 users are running this nonsense because they have figured it out.

So it has left me no choice but to ipretty much flee battle with Bolt Escape the minute I even see someone coming with a two handed weapon, and sure enough these users kill other people in 2 hits by spamming it, even when these people are Blocking. I don't think many realize this skill is bugged.

The Morph that increases Damage by distance traveled can really lay on the hurt.

Please fix this, until then, I am forced to not bother engaging any two handed weapon users and simply running away from them, because its a fight that is way too lopsided due to this exploit to bother risking getting killed over.

There should be no skill in the game that can do that kinda damage even when being blocked, even the Soul Assault Ultimate, I can survive that by blocking it, but not this and its not even a damn Ultimate, its an ability that can be spammed over and over. Snipe can be dodged and countered with other skills, this has no viable counter at all, You have no way of stopping them from hitting you with this, its Crits no matter what even if you block, so blocking is a waste of time, and good luck dodging it.

So if you see any Two handed users, I suggest you flee or use serious crowd control and knock downs, heck even stun lock them with Talon to prevent them from smashing your face in.....for those of us that don't have talons...were pretty much fubar....As a Sorc I don't have a skill on my bar that can do that kinda damage 100% of the time, let alone do it while the person im hitting is blocking.....

Thank you.

Teargrants · November 2014

Nice story bro. As one sorc to another, use restraining prison if they try to chase you. Also, this may come as a shock, but crit charge is supposed to ignore impen, did you even read the tool tip? "Always deals critical damage."

RinaldoGandolphi · November 2014

Teargrants wrote: »

Nice story bro. As one sorc to another, use restraining prison if they try to chase you. Also, this may come as a shock, but crit charge is supposed to ignore impen, did you even read the tool tip? "Always deals critical damage."

im not saying it shouldn't ignore Impenetrable...im actually ok with that, What I have a problem with is The Skill is Unblockable Im all for the Skill Critical Hitting and hammering me if im dumb enough to not block or get out of the way. I don't beleive the Devs are dumb enough to intend for a skill to hit for that kinda damage to be unblockable...thats more powerful then any Ulty in the game if thats the case...thats absurd.

However, thats not the case..how the heck can the skill be criting me when he is hitting my staff or weapon not me...there is a piece of metal/wood between his sword and my body.....something doing 1.2 k worth of damage being blocked with a full stamina bar is absurd... heck their is very few bosses in this game that hit for that kinda damage blocked, the only ones who do are in Trials that have special mechanics with ways to avoid it.

Someone can't possibly think its logical to have an unblockable skill hit for that kinda damage, if so they might as well just make it an "I win button" There is no damage diff between blocking it and not blockin it...it will do pretty much the same damage.

Until they fix this, I have just simply resorted in not even bothering to fight with them stright up...however I do make it a point to pay attention and wait until they are busy with someone else and have about half their health bar gone before I "Pick the Bones" and do mop up duty on them....call me an opportunist, say its unfair, but until they fix this and make the skill blockable like every other single target skills, this is exactly what i will do...pick the bones.....

Until then, I guess I will jsut recruit my DK buddiy to run with me all the time to Talon/Standard/Flame Whip him to death while i stay ranged and pick his bones....pretty sad when you have to resrt to such measures because someone has a skill thats impossible to block.

KBKB · November 2014

Eh Block has had it coming for a LONG time.

Sypher · November 2014

I'm not sure about the OP. But I can confirm that there is a bug with blocking.

Your character will sometimes show the block animation when in fact you aren't blocking even while holding down block. causing you to get knocked down through block or taking full damage while your shield is up.

I'm all for fixing block spamming / casting. Not through a bug/glitch though.

Davadin · November 2014

people in Cyro blocked my critical charge every now and then. if i'm lucky i can crit for 700-800 with all buff.... but usually it's around 500-600.

Sometimes, i hit somebody with a full shield up his face (but i can't stop critical charge mid way...) and i got 350.... if that's not blocked, i dont know what is.

PS: considering snipe can do it from a range, while crit charge actually requires the user to end up in the middle of the fight.... i say this thing needs to be more powerful than Snipe.

And currently, it's not. Unlike Snipe the animation can't be cancelled, so no clipping. it never hits as high as Snipe. and it can put you smack dab in the middle of a shark tank if you're not careful...

Xexpo · November 2014

except... right after they crit charge you they are focused by 17 other people in pew-pew mode

Grim13 · November 2014

*note to self: run 2hander next time in Cyrodiil

Tenret · November 2014

Critical Charge is blockable and is blockaded

Eternal Blocking is still alive and well

suycyco · November 2014

Done very few pvp since the patch but the few hours I've done I didn't notice anything like this.
On a templar blocking his life was barely moving, and chasing a tp tp tp sorcerer it's took me something like 6 critical charge to kill him so unless he has 6K hp he didn't took so much damage.

I am not the most optimized player but I am not either an unstuff one running with 2400 stam and 225 weapon power without mometum (and I put momentum before almost all the critical charges I've done.)

Maybe there is some issue but I didn't saw it as an critical charge user.

RinaldoGandolphi · November 2014

When i get on tonight, i'll and remember to turn my recording on and i'll record a short clip and screen shot showing it happening if i run into someone using CC again.

It may be what Sypher said above and is a glitch in the block mechanic that by the luck of the draw has only reared its ugly head for me against CC users.

However something was/is going on the last few days where a CC user can just simply spam that and hit me like my block simply doesn't exist.

Prior to patch 1.5 I had no issues Blocking CC or anything else that wasn't an AOE. Sure I can't just stand their like a Boss and hold block and expect to live, but I could at least Block 1 blow giving me enough time to get out of range or move....

still, Shield Charge and Critical Charge a wonderful thing...they can charge me from great distance, and I want to dodge roll or move out of the way, but the game roots me to my position so i can sit their and watch for what seems like an eternity waiting on the said user to finally reach me and hit, when all i want to do is dodge, but the game won't let me...so in that situation...what other choice to do i have but to hold block....unless i want to die...

P.S: My DK buddy and myself tested my theory, and sure enough popping Talons, Dropping a Standard, and Flame Whipping the Two hander in the face repeatably is a very viable counter. The sad thing is, this guy kept healing himself and just prolonged the agony...it should be illegal to subject your toon into getting Flame Whipped in the face over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again....it was painful to watch actually...i think the emote /begformercy would have been suitable in his case.

Hope you got some LOL's out of that, have a great morning folks!

Erock25 · November 2014

Crit charge is definitely blockable.

KBKB · November 2014

Had a few duels tonight its blockable shame that wall of text went to waste!

RinaldoGandolphi · November 2014

Erock25 wrote: »

Crit charge is definitely blockable.

Well it hasn't been for me for the last two days despite holding the block button down a good 1 sec before the user ever charges me. However, im willing to concede it may be what Sypher said above that its some sort of glitch with the Block Mechanic in the game and not Critical Charge per se.

I don't call getting hit for 1-1.2k worth of damage by CC while blocking my idea of a "swell time"..im all for CC hitting for that much if im a dolt not blocking it...hitting for that kind of damage while blocking is a is a different matter entirely.

Either CC is bugged and does that sometimes, or its the game's block mechanic like Sypher said...one way or another..they need to look into it...

Thechemicals · November 2014

Worse thing you can do as a Sorc is try to bolt escape someone who is using crit charge. The attack is stronger the farther you get away and always crits.

The only bug with crit rush is that the pathfinding for it is messed up. Youll cast it and not charge....and lose the stamina cost.

RinaldoGandolphi · November 2014

Black-Bird wrote: »

Had a few duels tonight its blockable shame that wall of text went to waste!

Ok well i hope i run into a CC user this evening so i can video record and prove to you its not in certain cirumstances. I so wish I would have had it turned on last night so you could have seen me holding down block and him killing me in 2 hits (when i have 3600+ HP) and full Legenday Yellow Gear with 7 Impentrable, Then you can tell me its blockable.......

Either CC is bugged or Block is bugged..I NEVER had an issue blocking CC prior to this patch, so something is going on here. Just because you haven't seen the issue doesn't mean it don't exist. I can count on 1 hand how many times I have crashed to desktop in Cyrodiil, however, many other users crash a lot, but using your logic, since I never crash, I guess crashing isn't an issue in Cyrodiil right?

RinaldoGandolphi · November 2014

Thechemicals wrote: »

Worse thing you can do as a Sorc is try to bolt escape someone who is using crit charge. The attack is stronger the farther you get away and always crits.

The only bug with crit rush is that the pathfinding for it is messed up. Youll cast it and not charge....and lose the stamina cost.

I wasn't trying to Bolt Escape away from him, I was using Streak to BE Though him to damage and stun him since Block was obviously useless..but since we both hit it at the same time, I guess having a Lighting Bolt as big as the one that struck the time machine in Back to the Future with 1.21 Gigawatts of electricity flowing through his body meant pretty much nothing...as a mere man holding a big sword trumps a lighting bolt that would destroy most peoples houses......

Xeniph · November 2014

Well, clearly HIS block worked, since Streak didn't stun him. Haha

In all honesty, you can't stun someone in the middle of any charge. And even if it were possible, smart people hold block while the animation plays.

With that said, a few skills are doing wonky things. I noticed yesterday that with Focused Aim, as long as I started the animation before a NB vanished, I could spam it and it would still hit him every time lol. Regardless of how many times he vanished.

RinaldoGandolphi · November 2014

Xeniph wrote: »

With that said, a few skills are doing wonky things. I noticed yesterday that with Focused Aim, as long as I started the animation before a NB vanished, I could spam it and it would still hit him every time lol. Regardless of how many times he vanished.

Fair enough. It just seems somethings are a little off with this last update, and im beginning to be more inclined with Sypher that its the block function that is buggy. Sometimes you will see your character in the block animation but your not actually blocking, which explains some of the wonkyness i have seen the last few days.

Kypho · November 2014

Its just a streakspammer QQ. nothing to see here

Pixysticks · November 2014

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

Your character will sometimes show the block animation when in fact you aren't blocking even while holding down block. causing you to get knocked down through block or taking full damage while your shield is up.

I'm all for fixing block spamming / casting. Not through a bug/glitch though.

^

Columba · November 2014

woodsro wrote: »

Thechemicals wrote: »

Worse thing you can do as a Sorc is try to bolt escape someone who is using crit charge. The attack is stronger the farther you get away and always crits.

The only bug with crit rush is that the pathfinding for it is messed up. Youll cast it and not charge....and lose the stamina cost.

I wasn't trying to Bolt Escape away from him, I was using Streak to BE Though him to damage and stun him since Block was obviously useless..but since we both hit it at the same time, I guess having a Lighting Bolt as big as the one that struck the time machine in Back to the Future with 1.21 Gigawatts of electricity flowing through his body meant pretty much nothing...as a mere man holding a big sword trumps a lighting bolt that would destroy most peoples houses......

God forbid that a melee sword wielder kills a stick waving dress wearer, lol.

Huntler · November 2014

Columba wrote: »

woodsro wrote: »

Thechemicals wrote: »

Worse thing you can do as a Sorc is try to bolt escape someone who is using crit charge. The attack is stronger the farther you get away and always crits.

The only bug with crit rush is that the pathfinding for it is messed up. Youll cast it and not charge....and lose the stamina cost.

I wasn't trying to Bolt Escape away from him, I was using Streak to BE Though him to damage and stun him since Block was obviously useless..but since we both hit it at the same time, I guess having a Lighting Bolt as big as the one that struck the time machine in Back to the Future with 1.21 Gigawatts of electricity flowing through his body meant pretty much nothing...as a mere man holding a big sword trumps a lighting bolt that would destroy most peoples houses......

God forbid that a melee sword wielder kills a stick waving dress wearer, lol.

You never post anything of substance do you? Just 1 sentence glibs about your tunnel vision view of the game.

Columba · November 2014

Are thou vexed, primate?

Sleep · November 2014

At least it's not always unblockabe as I noticed some people blocked my Critical Rush and took less than 100 damage. by the way my Combat Log Statistic showed "Critical Charge" while I was using "Critical Rush". maybe death recap makes this mistake too.