Cyrodiil needs a new ressing system asap

Malveria · November 2014

The only chance of success against a strong defensive force is to zerg it to death. Otherwise, the best way to secure a keep is to cap it when there are no defenders.

Alternately, the only way to defend a keep is to have a defending force already there, or on the way when it's flagged, and hope that you either outnumber, or can overpower your enemy. It's no longer a matter of skill. It's literally you either zerg cap it or ninja cap it, or don't bother.

It's inevitable that you die in a siege. But what's the point of going there if death means that you're gonna miss out on the rest of it, or everyone gets wiped?

We need a better res system. A res bomb of some sort that people can use to res multiple people. Or let resources be a resurrection site for defenders and assaulters.

Gankers might be happy, and people who want to be carried by a broken system rather than skill, but large-scale combat is nonexistant. Keep fights are barely existent. And they are frustrating at best. I don't want to ninja cap keeps, or have them ninja capped from me.

We went further away from making keep takes fights. We made it so that a fight is actually undesirable.

Rylana · November 2014

Or stop spreading the faction so thin by attacking three or four objectives at once and overextending. I literally watched it happen again yesterday.

Alessia was getting hammered, then sej flipped yellow again, then they went to brk.

Meanwhile a whole mess of yellow went to ash to start a fight with blue (the bulk of the organized forces, I was there)

when the siege at brk failed, fare lit up almost immediately, with almost all forces at sejanus and ash or nikel

Everyone responded south, abandoning nikel, sej, alessia, and roe

fare fell

then bb fell

then bm fell

no one knew what was going on because there was no camp to steer them.

AD is screwed until they figure out how to not overextend and cause a two pronged assault.

The people at BRK were the real ones at fault if I am honest, instead of pulling back to defend after they wiped, they ported to sej to try to feebly push red again while red actually was somewhere else.

Its about initiative, and AD never has it, or when they do, they fumble and dont capitalize (lollygagging around and taking 10 minutes to take a lightly defended keep with massive losses)

We even lost Mnem because of the same thing, so many people focused on recapping fare, barely anyone was present to defend Mnem when red pushed through the gate. I should know, I was there and flat out said in zone "lol theres like six people here at Mnem"

Then everyone chased the scroll and by sheer absolute luck and chance the 15 or so of us at Altadoon managed to stop the double blue push. You were there, i remember you standing right behind me (i stood on the pedestal spamming ground AOE so they couldnt pick it up)

AD is too much about reaction and not enough about initiative, and until that changes we will always fail.

frosth.darkomenb16_ESO · November 2014

I disagree with your initial assessement of the situation, careful gameplay outweight the need of rezing and you can have proper sieges now, with attrition and suply line playing an interesting role.
This system we have now is based on many more skills than before.
Simple twitch or combat skills are no longer suffiscient, you now also need situational awareness and strategic planing.

However, good concepts could come out of this discussion.

I could see some kind of undaunted line ulitmate be a zone rez.
A PBAOE radius of 6m should be enough and a cost of 350 ultimate would be suitable.

The opportunity cost of sacrificing a ultimate slot combined with having to save up that much ultimate would make it a rare but decisive occurence in pushes or boss wipes.

Malveria · November 2014

This is a PVP. No an RTS.