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Elder Horse On Line is not what I ve paid for

Vanzen
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Right camp was getting out of control, but now pvp is just a chore. You ve got to devise something fair here. I died thrice and then I logged out. No way I was gonna horse riding again.
  • Rologue
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    Try not to die so much?
    Guildmaster of Decimation Elite
    "Take all that you can, and give nothing back!"
  • Lord_Draevan
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    I have a feeling ZOS removed it to implement the fix they mentioned, where you can only spawn at a camp if you die in its radius.
    Could be wrong, maybe they took it out for good, like they did with Mercenaries.
    I'm a man of few words. Any questions?
    NA/PC server
  • Davadin
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    Vanzen wrote: »
    Right camp was getting out of control, but now pvp is just a chore. You ve got to devise something fair here. I died thrice and then I logged out. No way I was gonna horse riding again.

    Find friends. Die less. Use Transport stone.

    Riding isn't that bad. But if you really can't handle a few minutes ride, then there's always other games.

    PS: rez people with the gem, please.
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    Dragonhold 5.2.11 PvE : Medium DW/2H The Blood Furnace
    March 2021 (too lazy to add CP) PvP: Medium DW/Bow The Stabber
  • Xsorus
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    Vanzen wrote: »
    Yes, I bought a game that advertised a massive scale pvp map, but I sure as hell didn't want to play it that way!

    fixt
  • LonePirate
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    Vanzen wrote: »
    Yes, I bought a game that advertised a massive scale pvp map, but I sure as hell didn't want to play it that way!

    fixt

    Let me fix your fix to reflect how you truly feel.
    Vanzen wrote: »
    Yes, I bought a game that advertised a massive scale pvp map with large battles but I prefer small scale and one sided battles in the same, tiny location!


  • Ifthir_ESO
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    I have a feeling ZOS removed it to implement the fix they mentioned, where you can only spawn at a camp if you die in its radius.
    Could be wrong, maybe they took it out for good, like they did with Mercenaries.

    Pretty sure it was removed because it would require a code change.

    Sounds to me like binding to account isn't enough because then you can swap to your lowbie alt and have a FC as an Alliance Rank 1. That means you have to change the way items are handled to "fix" the way we want it fixed.
  • Koensol
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    One thing ZOS might consider is to put more outposts on the map, in stead of just 3. Increase the number to like 6. One near each of the far keeps like Dragonclaw as well. But please don't reimplement FCs. After 1 hour of playing I can tell PvP is already so much better and feeling natural. Skirmishes in between keeps, cutting off reinforcements, etc. People will learn to ress their mates instead of letting the camps do it and ruin pvp.
  • briandivisionb16_ESO
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    You are too casual
    If your group is bigger than 6 members gain 75% damage reduction.

    Write this on the back of your box and see how many sales you get!

    You won't get any new PvP players until this archaic AoE crap is fixed.
    I for one won't resub until:
    1.) You fix lag.
    2.) You remove AOE caps we voted against.
    3.) 12 months have passed (this is how long we've waited for you to 'get with it')[/b]
  • Scamandros
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    I for one embrace the idea of Elder horses online and have /feedbacked for it many times. Hoping for Horse as a selectable race for 1.6
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    I continue to battle.
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    Mighty Eagle
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    Then suddenly
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    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I heard a screech
    But suddenly, I attack Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle had to defend

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I know I was fighting for Mighty Lion
    So I fought back.

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I attack I attack
    But to no avail

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    The Mighty claws who's mighty claws
    Felt unnatural to me and very clumsy to me

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    Why I have chosen to not stay with you
    I do not know. I am complicated at that.

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I have destroyed Mighty Eagle
    My own kin in Scourge PS4 EU

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I crawled into a ball
    Weep to no avail

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    Lost in my whirling thoughts
    My heart and mind is clouded

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I have served Mighty Lion over a year
    I thought Mighty Lion is were I belong anew

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I finally contacted
    Mighty Eagle

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle says they love me
    In reality I love them also.

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I continued to clash
    At Mighty Eagle however

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    But clashing with Mighty Eagle
    Just not feel right


    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I have made a wrong choice I now believe
    Terrible and unjust of what I did

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    For am I not a monster
    For attacking a faction who loves me instead

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I was wrong
    Mighty Eagle was right

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    Come. Please take me back Mighty Eagle
    For I believe I now know

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    Were I truly belong
    For indeed I thought

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    That Mighty Lion
    Is were I belong.

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    O how I was so wrong Mighty Eagle
    I was gravely wrong and such a fool I was.

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    You have met
    Princess Justine

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    Princess Justine who attacked
    Mighty Eagle

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I know this was wrong
    And so to does Princess Justine

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    With our clashing together
    I now know were I truly belong in Scourge PS4 EU I believe.

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    Have you all not heard
    The famous saying. That is very wise and so very true?

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    Let me repeat the famous saying
    that is very wise and so true

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    It is
    My Enemy, Enemy's, Enemy's
    Is my friend

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I come to thee Mighty Eagle
    And so to Princess Justine.

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    Who used to serve Mighty Lion
    But Now serve Mighty Eagle
    For the very first time in her career.

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    Princess Justine and are one in the same
    Were I go. She will go to. For she believes it is right choice

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    We are all yours
    O Mighty Eagle

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    No one else but you
    I feel peaceful. Unafraid

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    I belong to you O mighty Eagle
    I am so relieved to hear myself to say that

    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    Princess Justine and I


    Mighty Eagle
    Mighty Eagle
    Now flies and fights alongside with Mighty Eagle
    Who's Mighty talons stand for sacred Freedom

    Written by Serjustin19
    Written on this day
    September 27. The day when My troubled mind is not clouded no longer.
    In the year of my troubles end
  • Thechemicals
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    Its a problem for a lot of people whether you want to make fun or not. Here, i made a thread this morning with some ideas. Maybe you can promote some of the speed ones.

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/138268/some-ideas-for-the-devs-now-that-travel-is-linear-in-cyro#latest
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  • Soris
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    In a game where you die in seconds and have such skills that hits for your 1/3 health, fast respawn removal is just plain stupid.
    I know camps were abused soo much. It does need a change for sure but not complete removal.

    If they plan to bring it back after fix it, im sorry this isn't the way how things work. It's not beta or test server, and we are not testers. Why does test server even exist then?
    Welkynd [Templar/AD/EU]
  • cozmon3c_ESO
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    If you're dieing so fast it's time to put on a restore staff and become near impossible to kill with 2 people beating on you. Or add more defensive abilities to your bars. There are many people in this game who take forever to kill in all classes, time to adapt all your damage ability bars for some survivability.
    Edited by cozmon3c_ESO on November 4, 2014 6:24PM
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  • Soris
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    If you're dieing so fast it's time to put on a restore staff and become near impossible to kill with 2 people beating on you.

    Oh you mean bug abuse? Lol

    Welkynd [Templar/AD/EU]
  • Grim13
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    Elder Snores Online
  • seancaputo_ESO
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    Last Night, we had great long fights - LONG -- went the normal 80 and 4 on my DK -- but my V14 NB, gets into the 100's with a handful of deaths.

    I really did not see hardly any difference last night.
  • heng14rwb17_ESO
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    well, due to the high number of gankers, horse riding is not safe......u have to walk :s
  • Davadin
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    well, due to the high number of gankers, horse riding is not safe......u have to walk :s

    ...while stealthed. Or else it's going to be worse... lol
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    Greymoor 6.0.7 PvP : Medium 2H/SnB The Destroyer
    Dragonhold 5.2.11 PvE : Medium DW/2H The Blood Furnace
    March 2021 (too lazy to add CP) PvP: Medium DW/Bow The Stabber
  • Nijjion
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    You knew it was RvR PvP... I say deal with it.
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  • c0rp
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    People complaining they got killed in the PVP ZONE is absolutely hilarious, no matter what game you are talking about!
    Force weapon swap to have priority over EVERYTHING. Close enough.
    Make stamina builds even with magicka builds.
    Disable abilities while holding block.
    Give us a REASON to do dungeons more than once.
    Remove PVP AoE CAP. It is ruining Cyrodiil.
    Fix/Remove Forward Camps. They are ruining Cyrodiil.
    Impenetrability needs to REDUCE CRIT DAMAGE. Not negate entire builds.
    Werewolf is not equal to Vamps/Bats.
  • WebBull
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    c0rp wrote: »
    People complaining they got killed in the PVP ZONE is absolutely hilarious, no matter what game you are talking about!

    Look up, something just flew over your head.

    It's not about dying, it's about now spending 50% of your time or more on a horse. Last night my actual PvP time in Cyrodiil was less than 10% of my time there. That's a problem.
  • Davadin
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    WebBull wrote: »
    c0rp wrote: »
    People complaining they got killed in the PVP ZONE is absolutely hilarious, no matter what game you are talking about!

    Look up, something just flew over your head.

    It's not about dying, it's about now spending 50% of your time or more on a horse. Last night my actual PvP time in Cyrodiil was less than 10% of my time there. That's a problem.

    1. Learn to stay alive longer. No seriously, I'm not saying you're a bad player, but adapt to this.
    2. Learn to use the transport thing. Actions usually not far from the nearest port-able keep.
    August Palatine Davadin Bloodstrake - Nord Dragon Knight - PC NA - Gray Host
    Greymoor 6.0.7 PvP : Medium 2H/SnB The Destroyer
    Dragonhold 5.2.11 PvE : Medium DW/2H The Blood Furnace
    March 2021 (too lazy to add CP) PvP: Medium DW/Bow The Stabber
  • tonemd
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    LonePirate wrote: »
    Vanzen wrote: »
    Yes, I bought a game that advertised a massive scale pvp map, but I sure as hell didn't want to play it that way!

    fixt

    Let me fix your fix to reflect how you truly feel.
    Vanzen wrote: »
    Yes, I bought a game that advertised a massive scale pvp map with large battles but I prefer small scale and one sided battles in the same, tiny location!


    When camps are replaced by camping, Mage Lights be your guide.

  • Mauz
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    Thats it for me. Im out. For organized groups this might be great. For random player its just the killing blow. Not enough action, most time you walk.
  • Sallington
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    Mauz wrote: »
    Thats it for me. Im out. For organized groups this might be great. For random player its just the killing blow. Not enough action, most time you walk.

    For my "always in the fast-paced action" PvP, I just bought COD: AW. That's not what Cyrodil is or should be about.

    If you're just roaming around looking for random fights, then you're doing it wrong. It's usually not hard to see where the action is on the map anyway, and it's usually pretty easy to get there.
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  • Akula
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    Tactics are going to shift. It might take a bit, but the sides will adapt. If your team is hitting keeps deep in enemy controlled territory, and you are running in like a suicide bomber...then you deserve you long rides. Adaptation is a key word here. Quit playing like you did before the patch expecting a quick bailout from bad playing. Start using rezs like they are meant to be used.
  • Sotha_Sil
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    Mauz wrote: »
    Thats it for me. Im out. For organized groups this might be great. For random player its just the killing blow. Not enough action, most time you walk.

    I mean SERIOUSLY ??? HOW IS THAT HARD ???? OH THEY MADE THE GAME INTERESTING OHHHH I WILL QUIT OHHH...

    SUGGESTION
    Buy a horse, make it LVL MAX in Horse speed (as we have infinite horse stamina in this game anyway). Use Rapid manoeuver. Use speed pots ? You will be there in no time.
    Edited by Sotha_Sil on November 4, 2014 9:37PM
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  • Lava_Croft
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    Call of Duty generation has trouble with several minutes of no visceral, in-your-face action sporting dubstep music.
  • PlagueMonk
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    You gotta love how something changes and people simply throw their hands up in disgust rather than give it a real chance (and no, dying 3 times in one evening while on horseback doesn't count). Give it a REAL chance. Tactics will change, new strategies formed and hell, they may even bring back the FC in some limited form but giving up now just makes me laugh. You probably see a long line in the grocery store, put your food down and just drive home.

    I'm also willing to bet you made a Light fastestest (not a misspell ;) ) horse didn't ya? Here's an idea, buy a new horse and feed the damn thing more than apples! Try a lot of hay and maybe, just maybe you will out pace the ganker before your horse runs out of stamina?

    Another good idea is, don't just run directly at your target keep (or other objective), stay off the roads. The Highwayman are usually waiting along well trodden paths. Take a slightly more scenic route.

    Stealth walk out of the keeps and THEN saddle up a ways away from the keep. Many gankers are just waiting outside the keeps for you to immediately get on your horse and burn your stamina out in 50 yards. - easy kill.
    Edited by PlagueMonk on November 4, 2014 9:39PM
  • TheBull
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    The jump in a group AoE until you die style is dead.
  • Tintinabula
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    How hard is it to provide a service that I pay for? It isn't hard for them to bill my account monthly..that goes off with out a hitch!!!

    How hard is it to cough up what they advertised? Ive been paying for FCs for the last 5 months and was paying for Mercs the first three. At least ONE month I PAID THEM to be ganked at starter gates and am PAYING THEM for the privilege to be the victim of hackers and cheaters. I PAID THEM for a month of ~1 FPS triple A 5 star gaming.~

    My payments haven't gone down .
    My payments have stayed the same.
    My PvP experience HAS declined.

    Emp Farming- Buff Campaigns- Troll Camps-Pop disparity-hellish cues-Scroll Backs..JUST TO NAME A FEW and in response??...they TAKE AWAY FCS!!

    Playing the game....REASONS..I need some.
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