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Are the Undaunted pledges random?...

Alphashado
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They sure seem to be. I could be wrong, but it sure seems like everyone is looking for a group for a different dungeon, regardless if its normal or VR version. If this is the case, then that is a terrible idea. The concept is supposed to get people more involved with running dungeons, therefore shouldn't everyone get the same daily quest that changes at a certain time of the day that can be shared with group members?

Maybe I am missing something here, but it seems like there are a bunch of people that have incentive to find groups but not for the same dungeons, which defeats the purpose.

Should be the same two dungeons available from the NPC.
It should change to a new pledge after a certain amount of time.
One VR version.
One normal version.
They should be sharable to anyone that meets the criteria.

If I have this all wrong, then please explain. Thanks.
  • Cherryblossom
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    The best change they could of made was enabling a bigger selection of Dungeons you want to queue for, or even just Queue for a random Dungeon!
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    This would be typical ZOS, take a not too bad an idea and mess it up beyond all chance of redemption!!!

    I agree, rotate the dungeons issued as pledges daily, rather than using the RNG & praying it works!

    RNG is always a poor choice of how to implement anything in a game!!!
    Edited by Gythral on November 4, 2014 2:27PM
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  • Romo
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    Dear OP,

    Your suggestion is rational and very much to the point.

    So wth are you doing on these forums?

    Sincerely,

    Romo
  • Alphashado
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    The best change they could of made was enabling a bigger selection of Dungeons you want to queue for, or even just Queue for a random Dungeon!

    Anything would be an improvement. Right now its just a mess. Lots of people looking for dungeon groups which is great. But they are all looking for different dungeons which totally defeats the purpose.
  • Cherryblossom
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    Alphashado wrote: »
    The best change they could of made was enabling a bigger selection of Dungeons you want to queue for, or even just Queue for a random Dungeon!

    Anything would be an improvement. Right now its just a mess. Lots of people looking for dungeon groups which is great. But they are all looking for different dungeons which totally defeats the purpose.

    Still at work so I've not got a chance to play yet, but actually looking forward to seeing the changes which is obviously a plus for ZOS.

    But it would seem that they do half baked idea's without really thinking about them properly! I haven't noticed a DEV thread asking for the communities opinions on Grouping, this may help them get some idea's for improving the current situation.
  • leandro.800ub17_ESO
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    For u to complete the pledge achievement u have to do the 2 daily pledges?
  • Alphashado
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    Something seems off with the scaled versions as well. Normal versions scaled to VR lvl don't feel correctly balanced.
    Edited by Alphashado on November 4, 2014 3:17PM
  • guybrushtb16_ESO
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    Soo, they introduce an "any dungeon" setting *and* make it entirely redundant for endgame in the same patch. Smart move.

    Honestly, when they said "daily dungeon" of course everybody naturally assumed it would be the same for anyone. How do they even come up with stuff like that? I mean seriously, who has those ideas? Please ask him to refrain from designing systems in the future.
    Edited by guybrushtb16_ESO on November 4, 2014 3:01PM
  • OrangeTheCat
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    Oh ZOS (facepalm)
  • Circuitous
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    The only time I saw people looking for different dungeons than the ones I got was overnight, when the new ones were available. Before that I got exactly the same dungeons everyone else got. Some people may still have yesterday's unfinished and are looking for groups to get them done.

    As far as I can tell, the pledges are not random.
    The best change they could of made was enabling a bigger selection of Dungeons you want to queue for, or even just Queue for a random Dungeon!

    But... they did this...
    Edited by Circuitous on November 4, 2014 3:12PM
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  • Alphashado
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    Circuitous wrote: »
    The only time I saw people looking for different dungeons than the ones I got was overnight, when the new ones were available. Before that I got exactly the same dungeons everyone else got. Some people may still have yesterday's unfinished and are looking for groups to get them done.

    As far as I can tell, the pledges are not random.
    The best change they could of made was enabling a bigger selection of Dungeons you want to queue for, or even just Queue for a random Dungeon!

    But... they did this...

    I have seen people looking for groups for several dungeon pledges. If what you say is true, then at the most there would be only 4 different dungeons since the patch.

  • Circuitous
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    Alphashado wrote: »
    Circuitous wrote: »
    The only time I saw people looking for different dungeons than the ones I got was overnight, when the new ones were available. Before that I got exactly the same dungeons everyone else got. Some people may still have yesterday's unfinished and are looking for groups to get them done.

    As far as I can tell, the pledges are not random.
    The best change they could of made was enabling a bigger selection of Dungeons you want to queue for, or even just Queue for a random Dungeon!

    But... they did this...

    I have seen people looking for groups for several dungeon pledges. If what you say is true, then at the most there would be only 4 different dungeons since the patch.

    On DC, I only saw people asking for the same four dungeons I received: day one was regular Direfrost Keep/veteran Darkshade Caverns, and day two was regular Spindleclutch and veteran Banished Cells.
    Thank Stendarr it’s Fredas.
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  • Alphashado
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    Circuitous wrote: »
    Alphashado wrote: »
    Circuitous wrote: »
    The only time I saw people looking for different dungeons than the ones I got was overnight, when the new ones were available. Before that I got exactly the same dungeons everyone else got. Some people may still have yesterday's unfinished and are looking for groups to get them done.

    As far as I can tell, the pledges are not random.
    The best change they could of made was enabling a bigger selection of Dungeons you want to queue for, or even just Queue for a random Dungeon!

    But... they did this...

    I have seen people looking for groups for several dungeon pledges. If what you say is true, then at the most there would be only 4 different dungeons since the patch.

    On DC, I only saw people asking for the same four dungeons I received: day one was regular Direfrost Keep/veteran Darkshade Caverns, and day two was regular Spindleclutch and veteran Banished Cells.

    I had Normal SC and VR Darkshade yesterday. Today I have Normal Direfrost and VR BC. So that is a different lineup than the one you posted. In any case, at least there seems to be some method to the madness. The one consistant thing I am seeing today is alot of people looking for Direrost.

  • Circuitous
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    Alphashado wrote: »
    Circuitous wrote: »
    Alphashado wrote: »
    Circuitous wrote: »
    The only time I saw people looking for different dungeons than the ones I got was overnight, when the new ones were available. Before that I got exactly the same dungeons everyone else got. Some people may still have yesterday's unfinished and are looking for groups to get them done.

    As far as I can tell, the pledges are not random.
    The best change they could of made was enabling a bigger selection of Dungeons you want to queue for, or even just Queue for a random Dungeon!

    But... they did this...

    I have seen people looking for groups for several dungeon pledges. If what you say is true, then at the most there would be only 4 different dungeons since the patch.

    On DC, I only saw people asking for the same four dungeons I received: day one was regular Direfrost Keep/veteran Darkshade Caverns, and day two was regular Spindleclutch and veteran Banished Cells.

    I had Normal SC and VR Darkshade yesterday. Today I have Normal Direfrost and VR BC. So that is a different lineup than the one you posted. In any case, at least there seems to be some method to the madness. The one consistant thing I am seeing today is alot of people looking for Direrost.

    Ahh, I had a feeling I had the regular dungeons mixed up! I couldn't quite remember what order I did them in... but now I remember doing the two regular dungeons back to back first. I only remembered doing Direfrost and then Darkshade. My mistake.
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    Auria Dolabella: Imperial Nightblade Tank, DC
  • leandro.800ub17_ESO
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    I had vet Spindleclutch and vet Darkshade
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    Alphashado wrote: »
    Circuitous wrote: »
    Alphashado wrote: »
    Circuitous wrote: »
    The only time I saw people looking for different dungeons than the ones I got was overnight, when the new ones were available. Before that I got exactly the same dungeons everyone else got. Some people may still have yesterday's unfinished and are looking for groups to get them done.

    As far as I can tell, the pledges are not random.
    The best change they could of made was enabling a bigger selection of Dungeons you want to queue for, or even just Queue for a random Dungeon!

    But... they did this...

    I have seen people looking for groups for several dungeon pledges. If what you say is true, then at the most there would be only 4 different dungeons since the patch.

    On DC, I only saw people asking for the same four dungeons I received: day one was regular Direfrost Keep/veteran Darkshade Caverns, and day two was regular Spindleclutch and veteran Banished Cells.

    I had Normal SC and VR Darkshade yesterday. Today I have Normal Direfrost and VR BC. So that is a different lineup than the one you posted. In any case, at least there seems to be some method to the madness. The one consistant thing I am seeing today is alot of people looking for Direrost.

    But what faction are you? I have the exact same combo as you, and I'm AD.
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  • Circuitous
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    Alphashado wrote: »
    Circuitous wrote: »
    Alphashado wrote: »
    Circuitous wrote: »
    The only time I saw people looking for different dungeons than the ones I got was overnight, when the new ones were available. Before that I got exactly the same dungeons everyone else got. Some people may still have yesterday's unfinished and are looking for groups to get them done.

    As far as I can tell, the pledges are not random.
    The best change they could of made was enabling a bigger selection of Dungeons you want to queue for, or even just Queue for a random Dungeon!

    But... they did this...

    I have seen people looking for groups for several dungeon pledges. If what you say is true, then at the most there would be only 4 different dungeons since the patch.

    On DC, I only saw people asking for the same four dungeons I received: day one was regular Direfrost Keep/veteran Darkshade Caverns, and day two was regular Spindleclutch and veteran Banished Cells.

    I had Normal SC and VR Darkshade yesterday. Today I have Normal Direfrost and VR BC. So that is a different lineup than the one you posted. In any case, at least there seems to be some method to the madness. The one consistant thing I am seeing today is alot of people looking for Direrost.

    But what faction are you? I have the exact same combo as you, and I'm AD.

    I'm in DC with that combination. Seems it's also the same server-wide.
    Thank Stendarr it’s Fredas.
    Elanirne: Altmer Templar Healer, DC
    Auria Dolabella: Imperial Nightblade Tank, DC
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