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All Dwemer Lootables are broken/bugged - Always empty (PATCH 1.5.2)

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Sneak_Thief
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EDIT: Some things Ive noticed after collecting 20+ pages the last couple days.

> With a veteran character, your lootables will go empty after a few runs with or without looting.
> Lv 4 characters tend not to bug the lootables even after countless logins.
> If your character in one alliance gets bugged containers, it will effect all for that alliance with that toon.
> However switching to another character in another alliance, the lootables are fine.
> If all your alliances lootables are buged, wait around 30 minutes. Otherwise you can rotate them like I do and keep getting pages.

While I haven't had many issues with both my level 4s in my other alliances, my main vet character will tend to get bugged lootables after a few runs. I spent countless hours testing this and finding a way to work around it, so take my word for it. The bug does exist, but there is a work around.
  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    Thanks @Sneak_Thief‌, we're looking into this now.
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    ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
    Thanks @Sneak_Thief‌, we're looking into this now.

    Thank you. Are you able to disclose whether those pages are on timers or not. Or any other special conditions of their drop.
  • Alphashado
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    Is there a list of all the Dwemer dungeon locations and does it matter which lvl they are for the motif?
  • Rook_Master
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    I would like to know the answer to whether the urns are on timers or not as well.

    It seems the respawn rate drops off drastically after multiple relogs, to the point where they are all empty.
  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    Hey @Sneak_Thief‌, which dungeons specifically did you try?
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  • Gilvoth
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    very interesting indeed, i do hope i get every single page and the whole book within a few hours would be most appreciated :)
  • eNumbra
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    ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
    Hey @Sneak_Thief‌, which dungeons specifically did you try?
    I just got the same bug in Aldunz and Yldzuun in Alik'r @ZOS_GinaBruno
    Edited by eNumbra on November 3, 2014 7:36PM
  • eNumbra
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    Rook_Master wrote: »
    It seems the respawn rate drops off drastically after multiple relogs, to the point where they are all empty.
    I sincerely hope that's not the case and Zenimax's idea of preventing farming. If so, I have no chance of getting any drops today because I logged in redistributed skills, swapped characters and did some writs, logged off to make lunch, logged in to finish said writs and then swapped characters to go loot some ruins.

  • ZOS_JessicaFolsom
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    We have a identified the cause of the scenario where Dwemer containers are usually empty, and will be making some adjustments as soon as possible.
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  • Rook_Master
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    eNumbra wrote: »
    Rook_Master wrote: »
    It seems the respawn rate drops off drastically after multiple relogs, to the point where they are all empty.
    I sincerely hope that's not the case and Zenimax's idea of preventing farming. If so, I have no chance of getting any drops today because I logged in redistributed skills, swapped characters and did some writs, logged off to make lunch, logged in to finish said writs and then swapped characters to go loot some ruins.

    That's probably fine then. In my case, I was specifically farming the Craglorn dwemer ruin by relogging. It was working fine for 15 minutes or so before I started getting all empty containers.
  • Sneak_Thief
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    ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »
    We have a identified the cause of the scenario where Dwemer containers are usually empty, and will be making some adjustments as soon as possible.

    Is this a live change? I am trying it again and they seem to be restocking at the moment. (I will also note I am not withdrawing anything)

    And to clarify, this was happening in all EP Dwemer locations at the time it was bugged.
    Edited by Sneak_Thief on November 3, 2014 9:04PM
  • Nestor
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    Sneak_Thief wrote: »
    Is this a live change? I am trying it again and they seem to be restocking at the moment. (I will also note I am not withdrawing anything)

    Nice thing about Server side fixes, they can make these changes and not have us download a patch to make it work.

    When you say not withdrawing you mean you are not looting? Perhaps to test this fix out, if it was fixed, you should loot the items. Although a relog should reset the containers anyway.

    Edited by Nestor on November 3, 2014 9:04PM
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  • Sneak_Thief
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    Nestor wrote: »
    Sneak_Thief wrote: »
    Is this a live change? I am trying it again and they seem to be restocking at the moment. (I will also note I am not withdrawing anything)

    Nice thing about Server side fixes, they can make these changes and not have us download a patch to make it work.

    When you say not withdrawing you mean you are not looting? Perhaps to test this fix out, if it was fixed, you should loot the items. Although a relog should reset the containers anyway.

    Yeah Im testing it while not looting for about 15 mins, they reload. Then I'll test looting and see if they do. Currently I am unable to get back into the game.. never ending loading screen even after multiple force closes and restarts.
    Edited by Sneak_Thief on November 3, 2014 9:12PM
  • Sneak_Thief
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    Looks like its going down for maintenance
  • Sneak_Thief
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    Sneak_Thief wrote: »
    Nestor wrote: »
    Sneak_Thief wrote: »
    Is this a live change? I am trying it again and they seem to be restocking at the moment. (I will also note I am not withdrawing anything)

    Nice thing about Server side fixes, they can make these changes and not have us download a patch to make it work.

    When you say not withdrawing you mean you are not looting? Perhaps to test this fix out, if it was fixed, you should loot the items. Although a relog should reset the containers anyway.

    Yeah Im testing it while not looting for about 15 mins, they reload. Then I'll test looting and see if they do. Currently I am unable to get back into the game.. never ending loading screen even after multiple force closes and restarts.

    It *appears* that the more I loot, the emptier the pots/urns get when I log in and out. Til virtually everything is empty.
  • k9mouse
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    Do Dremer pages drop from the machines or just urls, chest, bags etc?
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  • Mountain_Dewed
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    The chapters only drop from containers. The scraps drop from mobs.
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    Mountain_Dewed wrote: »
    The chapters only drop from containers. The scraps drop from mobs.

    So, since the server is going to be down a little while, how exactly does this work and what pieces/loot should I be looking out for?
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    Does it matter which Dwemer ruin you go into? Or do they all drop the same loot?
  • Sneak_Thief
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    k9mouse wrote: »
    Do Dremer pages drop from the machines or just urls, chest, bags etc?

    The pages drop just as you'd except to find any motif. This includes all dwemer dungeons.
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    Mithron wrote: »
    Does it matter which Dwemer ruin you go into? Or do they all drop the same loot?

    As far as I know, all have the same ability to drop them.
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    Well it seems some ruins have a problem with empty containers but it doesn't matter which one you go to when you do find a good one for your level. It doesn't matter if vet or non-vet.

    Just look in containers for something purple that says Dwemer motif and attack the foe to get Dwemer scraps.

    You need 10 dwemer scraps to make a frame and one frame is a dwemer style mat.

    There are 15 dwemer chapters and you learn them to make that style armor/weapon, just like all other motifs.
    Edited by Mountain_Dewed on November 3, 2014 10:19PM
  • Sneak_Thief
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    dharbert wrote: »
    Mountain_Dewed wrote: »
    The chapters only drop from containers. The scraps drop from mobs.

    So, since the server is going to be down a little while, how exactly does this work and what pieces/loot should I be looking out for?

    There are 14 pages to collect. Or if lucky you find the book at once. You only need 1 page to make that page's specific item. Take the dwemer scrap you get and refine it for the style material and use this with any material to make your product.
    Edited by Sneak_Thief on November 3, 2014 10:19PM
  • Mithron
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    Is there a website that lists all of the Dwemer ruins?
  • Sneak_Thief
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    Mithron wrote: »
    Is there a website that lists all of the Dwemer ruins?

    Not sure, you may have to google it.
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    UESP has an incomplete list of Dwemer ruins that appear in ESO.

    http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Dwemer_Ruins
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    This empty containers bug in the Dwemer ruins was reported on the PTS. See the second item in this comment from the 1.5 PTS Bugs thread.

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/comment/1327548/#Comment_1327548

    Granted, the issue did not occur 100% of the time which may have impacted ZOS' ability to recreate and fix the problem. Nevertheless, this issue was reported during PTS testing.
    Edited by LonePirate on November 3, 2014 10:23PM
  • Sneak_Thief
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    LonePirate wrote: »
    This empty containers bug in the Dwemer ruins was reported on the PTS. See the second item in this comment from the 1.5 PTS Bugs thread.

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/comment/1327548/#Comment_1327548

    Granted, the issue did not occur 100% of the time which may have impacted ZOS' ability to recreate and fix the problem. Nevertheless, this issue was reported during PTS testing.

    Yeah I tested this in the PTS and knew about the issue, I figured it would have been addressed, since it was brought up. Thats why I made this thread here, after seeing these issues persisted in the live update.
    Edited by Sneak_Thief on November 3, 2014 10:30PM
  • Sneak_Thief
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    eNumbra wrote: »
    UESP has an incomplete list of Dwemer ruins that appear in ESO.

    http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Dwemer_Ruins

    Thanks. Also to any AD players, since we don't have them in our zones, when you go to CH you will need to climb to the entrance on the hill to re-gain access to the Vile Lab, once you have beat it.
  • hammer_fella
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    eNumbra wrote: »
    UESP has an incomplete list of Dwemer ruins that appear in ESO.

    http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Dwemer_Ruins
    What about a location like Inner Sea Armature in Stonefalls? It doesn't have the Dwemer Ruin symbol, but is still a Dwemer Ruin inside nonetheless.
    Edited by hammer_fella on November 3, 2014 10:52PM
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