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Dear Zeni: Unstable Wall's AOE blast is uncapped

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Huntler
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You take away my uncapped gravity crush, I ruin the party for everyone else. Please pass this along and fix naow. kk, thx, bye....

  • Kaghei
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    no its not? :)
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  • FluffiestOne
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    No... It definitely does not. Do not look into this, this man is a liar and a thief.
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  • Tintinabula
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    dropping blockade off a two story inner keep wall is stupid.Definitely not intended.
  • Huntler
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    That is definitely a whole other issue that should likely be dealt with, but the aoe cap thing has no argument, it should be capped since everything else is.
  • Draxys
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    I might be wrong, but judging from the animations I see, it also seems to stack on itself. 6 ppl spamming it= 18 walls at any given time
    2013

    rip decibel
  • Ifthir_ESO
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    Its broken clearly. Add it to the list of broken stuff that Zenimax pretends they care about.
  • MormondPayne_EP
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    I have been using this since day one, and I never saw others use it until recently.

    So what do you propose then?

    A ground based AOE that does not stack on itself?

    One instance of it hits for about 120 DMG for 3.5 second (blockade morph). How can this be modified that does not make the spell completely useless?

    What about some constructive suggestions?
  • OtarTheMad
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    MormondPayne_EP wrote: »
    I have been using this since day one, and I never saw others use it until recently.

    So what do you propose then?

    A ground based AOE that does not stack on itself?

    One instance of it hits for about 120 DMG for 3.5 second (blockade morph). How can this be modified that does not make the spell completely useless?

    What about some constructive suggestions?

    I have to agree, my Sorc has been using Unstable Wall since I unlocked it and sometimes use it more than Fire Ring... so... what now... I have to stop using this ability as well so I don't get seen as a "spamming monkey"?

    How can this be changed (but not nerfed to death) so I can go back to using my "bread and butter" aoe spells?

  • Huntler
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    MormondPayne_EP wrote: »
    I have been using this since day one, and I never saw others use it until recently.

    So what do you propose then?

    A ground based AOE that does not stack on itself?

    One instance of it hits for about 120 DMG for 3.5 second (blockade morph). How can this be modified that does not make the spell completely useless?

    What about some constructive suggestions?

    Someone didn't read the thread and instead immediately assumed something else to benefit their predisposition. This thread is about how unstable wall's final explosion is not aoe capped as everything in this game is supposed to be, in fact they have been fixing any ability that is not aoe capped calling it unintended. So by that logic this ability is bugged and the no aoe cap on the explosion is unintended. Stacking on itself is another issue that can be dealt with separately if at all.

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude and Insulting Comments]
    Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on November 3, 2014 4:35PM
  • Aoe_Barbecue
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    For most circumstances, blockade is better anyways. Unstable wall is quite thin and short, and thus is more limited in the scope of its use.
  • Huntler
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    Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »
    For most circumstances, blockade is better anyways. Unstable wall is quite thin and short, and thus is more limited in the scope of its use.

    I made this post out of jealously and to *** in peoples cheerios more than actually think it matters.... I WANT MY UNCAPPED GRAVITY CRUSH BACK :angry:
  • Subtomik
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    Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »
    For most circumstances, blockade is better anyways. Unstable wall is quite thin and short, and thus is more limited in the scope of its use.


    I saw this and tried it to see, and blockade is way, way more useful heh. respeced after about an hour.

    PS: hova needs to stop making video's so people stop copying our builds =/
  • Aoe_Barbecue
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    Huntler wrote: »
    Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »
    For most circumstances, blockade is better anyways. Unstable wall is quite thin and short, and thus is more limited in the scope of its use.

    I made this post out of jealously and to *** in peoples cheerios more than actually think it matters.... I WANT MY UNCAPPED GRAVITY CRUSH BACK :angry:

    I think AoE caps just need to go in general :p
  • Morvul
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    I keep hearing that unstable wall / blockade is stacking on itself.
    I tested this in PvE with blockade, and against NPCs, the skill most certainly does NOT stack with itself.
    (to clarify: if two different players cast a wall at the same spot, NPCs take twice the damage. BUT: if ONE player casts two walls right at the same spot, the NPCs only take one tick of additional damage [since the second wall is placed a second later then the first] - not double the damage.

    So: is this wall-stacking behaviour different between NPCs and Player victims, or is it different between Blockade and Unstable Wall?
  • msawwan2ub17_ESO
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    you all do know that there is an AOE cap on that wall of element right?

    plz dont tell me that you think the dmg i posted is due to no aoe cap on this skill ...

    do the math plz. thank you very much.
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  • msawwan2ub17_ESO
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    ok i stand corrected
    this is a different post than the other one :-s

    apparently the unstable one that explode doesnt have an AOE cap.
    Zenimax you must nerf it now!! lol
    Edited by msawwan2ub17_ESO on November 3, 2014 7:29AM
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  • Huntler
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    msawwan2ub17_ESO wrote: »
    ok i stand corrected
    this is a different post than the other one :-s

    apparently the unstable one that explode doesnt have an AOE cap.
    Zenimax you must nerf it now!! lol

    So glad you clarified MJ cuz I was about to lay the smackdown, but yes ignore other noobs spouting garbage.
  • Pixysticks
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    Ya! Make a post screaming to remove AoE caps, then make a post screaming to AoE cap an ability that isn't capped!
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  • Huntler
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    Pixysticks wrote: »
    Ya! Make a post screaming to remove AoE caps, then make a post screaming to AoE cap an ability that isn't capped!

    Consistency man, consistency. But seriously remove aoe caps... or at least increase dat limit.
  • jkirchner71ub17_ESO2
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    Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

    I love you because of this post. (nh)

    Today in DC zone chat I brought up a few broken or otherwise unintended mechanics and these so called "top players" and organized guild leaders quickly tried to shut me down and defend their choices or methods of pvp.

    :disagree:

    No surprise there Sypher cause they all using it now like it's going out of style. Two months ago it was rarely used in Cyro now it is used as much as Impulse. I agree Sorcs get the short end of the stick in terms of DPS skills that are viable in Cyro but the AOE cap needs to be applied so the final hit isn't hitting for 2k+. And with as many that are being laid down sure you can roll out of one and end up in another that just exploded for 2k+.
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  • Aoe_Barbecue
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    In all honesty, people are freaking out about what is essentially a display issue. It's not actually ticking for more than the skill displays; it's able to be stacked multiple times by multiple people in the same area.

    I originally started using it to generate ultimate, because it's stackable and generates 24 unique hits per wall if a crowd of people stand in it because (a) they are dumb or (b) they are in cramped quarters. Then more of NM started using it. Then people started freaking out about the damage display issue and now everyone and their mom is either using it or whining about it. Nothing to see here folks ;)

    Tomorrow, we are all going to start spamming Inner Fire. Watch out bros, ya'll finna get radiated.
    Edited by Aoe_Barbecue on November 3, 2014 4:30PM
  • Huntler
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    Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »
    Tomorrow, we are all going to start spamming Inner Fire. Watch out bros, ya'll finna get radiated.

    Its gonna be bone shield, mark my words.
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