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"Forward Camps will no longer be sold by Merchants in Cyrodiil."
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From 1.5.3 Patch Notes.
So, is this reading like it seems and there will no longer be any more forward camps in Cyrodiil? The first line seems a little confusing, is this normal merchants, siege merchants, all merchants?
Alliance War
General
- Forward Camps will no longer be sold by Merchants in Cyrodiil.
- Any Forward Camps that currently exist in-game cannot be traded with others.
- You are required to be at least Alliance Rank 6 or higher to deploy a Forward
Camp.
So, is this reading like it seems and there will no longer be any more forward camps in Cyrodiil? The first line seems a little confusing, is this normal merchants, siege merchants, all merchants?
@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."
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ThyIronFist✭✭✭✭✭It says Merchants in Cyrodiil, so I'd assume every merchant that sells siege, will no longer sell FCs.The Elder Zergs Online
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Rylana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭My guess is its the same as siege NPCs
No more can be purchased, what we have can still be used but when its gone its gone
Also they reduced limited camps to 1 rez/camp. So those are going to be useless as well.
no more camps@rylanadionysis == Closed Beta Tester October 2013 == Retired October 2016 == Uninstalled @ One Tamriel Release == Inactive Indefinitely
Ebonheart Pact: Lyzara Dionysis - Sorc - AR 37 (Former Empress of Blackwater Blade and Haderus) == Shondra Dionysis - Temp - AR 23 == Arrianaya Dionysis - DK - AR 17
Aldmeri Dominion: Rylana Dionysis - DK - AR 25 == Kailiana - NB - AR 21 == Minerva Dionysis - Temp - AR 21 == Victoria Dionysis - Sorc - AR 13
Daggerfall Covenant: Dannika Dionysis - DK - AR 21 == The Catman Rises - Temp - AR 15 (Former Emperor of Blackwater Blade)
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✭YES!!
They can bring them back when they get the tech to use the radius as a res mechanic.
Thank you @zos_brianwheelerForce weapon swap to have priority over EVERYTHING. Close enough.
Make stamina builds even with magicka builds.
Disable abilities while holding block.
Give us a REASON to do dungeons more than once.
Remove PVP AoE CAP. It is ruining Cyrodiil.
Fix/Remove Forward Camps. They are ruining Cyrodiil.
Impenetrability needs to REDUCE CRIT DAMAGE. Not negate entire builds.
Werewolf is not equal to Vamps/Bats.8 -
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✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_TristanK wrote: »Forward Camps won't be sold by any merchants in Cyrodiil, @Turelus.
@ZOS_TristanK that's interesting indeed. I have mixed feelings about this, I love the idea of no forward camps to stop death porting. However I worry about the ability to respawn near keeps under siege meaning if a defence group is wipe then the keep is lost (as it takes less time to capture than ride back).@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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✭✭✭YES!!
They can bring them back when they get the tech to use the radius as a res mechanic.
Thank you @zos_brianwheeler
Guess you can check another thing off your list, c0rp.Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
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✭✭✭✭✭Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »YES!!
They can bring them back when they get the tech to use the radius as a res mechanic.
Thank you @zos_brianwheeler
Guess you can check another thing off your list, c0rp.
LOL he already did, see that? its struck through hahahaha@rylanadionysis == Closed Beta Tester October 2013 == Retired October 2016 == Uninstalled @ One Tamriel Release == Inactive Indefinitely
Ebonheart Pact: Lyzara Dionysis - Sorc - AR 37 (Former Empress of Blackwater Blade and Haderus) == Shondra Dionysis - Temp - AR 23 == Arrianaya Dionysis - DK - AR 17
Aldmeri Dominion: Rylana Dionysis - DK - AR 25 == Kailiana - NB - AR 21 == Minerva Dionysis - Temp - AR 21 == Victoria Dionysis - Sorc - AR 13
Daggerfall Covenant: Dannika Dionysis - DK - AR 21 == The Catman Rises - Temp - AR 15 (Former Emperor of Blackwater Blade)
Forum LOL Champion (retired) == Black Belt in Ballista-Fu == The Last Vice Member == Praise Cheesus == Electro-Goblin0 -
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✭Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »YES!!
They can bring them back when they get the tech to use the radius as a res mechanic.
Thank you @zos_brianwheeler
Guess you can check another thing off your list, c0rp.
Yep, just did!
Force weapon swap to have priority over EVERYTHING. Close enough.
Make stamina builds even with magicka builds.
Disable abilities while holding block.
Give us a REASON to do dungeons more than once.
Remove PVP AoE CAP. It is ruining Cyrodiil.
Fix/Remove Forward Camps. They are ruining Cyrodiil.
Impenetrability needs to REDUCE CRIT DAMAGE. Not negate entire builds.
Werewolf is not equal to Vamps/Bats.5 -
lumithelock✭✭love this change was talking about it on our podcast saying they should just get rid of them and they basically did thank you
but now i am gone for 2 weeks 
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✭*** just got real.Killed by Sunshine 1vX How I see it.
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✭✭✭Also, I suspect that this wasn't advertised ahead of time due to the fact they didn't want players to try to hoard camps in preparation of the patch.
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✭Hope they immediately blocked sales on E U. Otherwise this is going to be a crapslinging contest. I think of farmers with millions of AP stored...4 -
Nermy✭✭✭✭✭I agree with Tarvy and wonder if this might just break defending keeps. I can foresee some mad assaults and it will change the whole way that Cyro works.
I may be wrong and it could be an awesome idea but I have my reservations.@Nermy
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✭Wow, this change is abit harsh imo. People dying in seconds already.
I'd rather to keep it until you fix the radius issue.
This also greatly affects the fight club style duel guilds as well. Whole thing is gonna screw up from now on.. Are you gonna pay the soulstone bills Zeni?Welkynd [Templar/AD/EU]7 -
Agrippa_Invisus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Wow, this change is abit harsh imo. People dying in seconds already.
I'd rather to keep it until you fix the radius issue.
This also greatly affects the fight club style duel guilds as well. Whole thing is gonna screw up from now on.. Are you gonna pay the soulstone bills Zeni?
Inconveniencing duelers is likely one of the things that ZOS didn't bother considering.Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
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✭Inconveniencing? What did they do to you? They are mostly harmess for zergs and living habitat between alesia and drake.Edited by Soris on November 3, 2014 4:39PMWelkynd [Templar/AD/EU]1 -
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✭✭✭Inconveniencing?
in·con·ven·ience (nkn-vnyns)
n.
1. The state or quality of being inconvenient.
2. Something inconvenient.
tr.v. in·con·ven·ienced, in·con·ven·ienc·ing, in·con·ven·ienc·es
To cause inconvenience to; trouble: The snow inconvenienced the holiday travelers.
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RoamingRiverElk✭✭✭✭✭I can't believe this change is happening. Incredibly bad news.
Even now, PvP is an expensive way to play because you need potions, equipment and soul gems. Now you will need even more soul gems.
Zergs and trains will benefit tremendously - it's easy for them to rezz each other, and relatively cheaper, too.
Small groups defending a keep from a big group will suffer greatly since they can't keep coming back - there was already punishment there for those who died since it still took time to get back inside the keep from the forward camp. Is it not more fun to be able to have 5 vs 25 fights, than not having them?
Dueling will be even harder now, trying to make it possible for members of all three factions.Dalris Aalr - Magicka (Stamina) DK | Dalfish - Magicka Sorc | Dal Aalr - Magicka Warden | Dalrish - Mag/Stam NB | Irana Aalr - PvE Templar8 -
rophez_ESO✭✭✭✭✭RoamingRiverElk wrote: »I can't believe this change is happening. Incredibly bad news.
Even now, PvP is an expensive way to play because you need potions, equipment and soul gems. Now you will need even more soul gems.
Zergs and trains will benefit tremendously - it's easy for them to rezz each other, and relatively cheaper, too.
Small groups defending a keep from a big group will suffer greatly since they can't keep coming back - there was already punishment there for those who died since it still took time to get back inside the keep from the forward camp. Is it not more fun to be able to have 5 vs 25 fights, than not having them?
Dueling will be even harder now, trying to make it possible for members of all three factions.
This will benefit defenders more. At least defenders who have a clue. My small group has, on many occasions, defended a keep to the point where we wiped vastly more enemies, only to be eventually overwhelmed by the constant supply of FCs. I'm quite excited about this change. It will also allow for smaller, non-zerg action between keeps.4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »YES!!
They can bring them back when they get the tech to use the radius as a res mechanic.
Thank you @zos_brianwheeler
Guess you can check another thing off your list, c0rp.
Yep, just did!
I like your list Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.1 -
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✭You have seen farming simulator , digger simulator , goat simulator...
Now ESO presents the walking simulator."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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✭✭✭Nox_Aeterna wrote: »You have seen farming simulator , digger simulator , goat simulator...
Now ESO presents the walking simulator.
Incorrect. Horse riding simulator.Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
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Once a General, now a Citizen
Former Emperor of Bloodthorn and Vivec
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✭✭✭✭✭Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »Nox_Aeterna wrote: »You have seen farming simulator , digger simulator , goat simulator...
Now ESO presents the walking simulator.
Incorrect. Horse riding simulator.
Except for those of us without imperial edition and lowbie toons.
Man I need to get to grinding gold and buying horses for my other alts that dont have one yet -.-@rylanadionysis == Closed Beta Tester October 2013 == Retired October 2016 == Uninstalled @ One Tamriel Release == Inactive Indefinitely
Ebonheart Pact: Lyzara Dionysis - Sorc - AR 37 (Former Empress of Blackwater Blade and Haderus) == Shondra Dionysis - Temp - AR 23 == Arrianaya Dionysis - DK - AR 17
Aldmeri Dominion: Rylana Dionysis - DK - AR 25 == Kailiana - NB - AR 21 == Minerva Dionysis - Temp - AR 21 == Victoria Dionysis - Sorc - AR 13
Daggerfall Covenant: Dannika Dionysis - DK - AR 21 == The Catman Rises - Temp - AR 15 (Former Emperor of Blackwater Blade)
Forum LOL Champion (retired) == Black Belt in Ballista-Fu == The Last Vice Member == Praise Cheesus == Electro-Goblin2 -
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✭✭✭Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »Nox_Aeterna wrote: »You have seen farming simulator , digger simulator , goat simulator...
Now ESO presents the walking simulator.
Incorrect. Horse riding simulator.
Except for those of us without imperial edition and lowbie toons.
Man I need to get to grinding gold and buying horses for my other alts that dont have one yet -.-
Plebeian.Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
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✭✭✭✭✭Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »Nox_Aeterna wrote: »You have seen farming simulator , digger simulator , goat simulator...
Now ESO presents the walking simulator.
Incorrect. Horse riding simulator.
Except for those of us without imperial edition and lowbie toons.
Man I need to get to grinding gold and buying horses for my other alts that dont have one yet -.-
Plebeian.
More like cheapskate, but at least i got explorers pack so i can be an AD Dunmer or EP Breton@rylanadionysis == Closed Beta Tester October 2013 == Retired October 2016 == Uninstalled @ One Tamriel Release == Inactive Indefinitely
Ebonheart Pact: Lyzara Dionysis - Sorc - AR 37 (Former Empress of Blackwater Blade and Haderus) == Shondra Dionysis - Temp - AR 23 == Arrianaya Dionysis - DK - AR 17
Aldmeri Dominion: Rylana Dionysis - DK - AR 25 == Kailiana - NB - AR 21 == Minerva Dionysis - Temp - AR 21 == Victoria Dionysis - Sorc - AR 13
Daggerfall Covenant: Dannika Dionysis - DK - AR 21 == The Catman Rises - Temp - AR 15 (Former Emperor of Blackwater Blade)
Forum LOL Champion (retired) == Black Belt in Ballista-Fu == The Last Vice Member == Praise Cheesus == Electro-Goblin1 -
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✭✭✭Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »Nox_Aeterna wrote: »You have seen farming simulator , digger simulator , goat simulator...
Now ESO presents the walking simulator.
Incorrect. Horse riding simulator.
Except for those of us without imperial edition and lowbie toons.
Man I need to get to grinding gold and buying horses for my other alts that dont have one yet -.-
Plebeian.
More like cheapskate, but at least i got explorers pack so i can be an AD Dunmer or EP Breton
But you can't be an Imperial.
So you remain as you are -- a plebeian.Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
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✭✭✭✭✭RoamingRiverElk wrote: »I can't believe this change is happening. Incredibly bad news.
Even now, PvP is an expensive way to play because you need potions, equipment and soul gems. Now you will need even more soul gems.
Zergs and trains will benefit tremendously - it's easy for them to rezz each other, and relatively cheaper, too.
Small groups defending a keep from a big group will suffer greatly since they can't keep coming back - there was already punishment there for those who died since it still took time to get back inside the keep from the forward camp. Is it not more fun to be able to have 5 vs 25 fights, than not having them?
Dueling will be even harder now, trying to make it possible for members of all three factions.
I think as long as the duelers bring a friend, they can be rezzed with soulgems, no?The Moot Councillor3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »Nox_Aeterna wrote: »You have seen farming simulator , digger simulator , goat simulator...
Now ESO presents the walking simulator.
Incorrect. Horse riding simulator.
Except for those of us without imperial edition and lowbie toons.
Man I need to get to grinding gold and buying horses for my other alts that dont have one yet -.-
Plebeian.
More like cheapskate, but at least i got explorers pack so i can be an AD Dunmer or EP Breton
Haha! I hear you. I never used horses in TES games, so I didn't see the point of the Imperial Edition, but I sure wanted to play any race I wanted (and I've never wanted to play as an Imperial...)
It took me a while to get horses for everybody. Still need to work on speed horses for PvP, though.The Moot Councillor0
