Buying additional character slots?
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Cherryblossom✭✭✭✭✭
✭I want more slots, I already pay for the game, I don't want to pay any more..3 -
Razzak✭✭✭✭✭Cherryblossom wrote: »I want more slots, I already pay for the game, I don't want to pay any more..
It doesn't matter if you want them or not. They are not coming in a foreseeable future and that's a fact.1 -
Moonshadow66✭✭✭✭✭
✭Cherryblossom wrote: »I want more slots, I already pay for the game, I don't want to pay any more..
It doesn't matter if you want them or not. They are not coming in a foreseeable future and that's a fact.
Then the whole thread doesn't matter either, I suppose? It's just a poll, not more, not less.Venus Ocean - Breton Sorceress VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Gixia - Breton Sorceress VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero
Frances Demnevanni - Breton Dragonknight VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Raygee - Breton Nightblade VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero
Lady Olivieri - Breton Nightblade VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Donna Demnevanni - Breton Templar VR16, DC, Tamriel Hero
Elaine Benes - Breton Templar VR16, EP | Ray McCluck - Breton Sorcerer VR16, EP
Moonshadow Demnevanni - Dunmer Dragonknight Lvl 50, EP | Jamie Stacey - Redguard Templar Lvl 50, EP
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Razzak✭✭✭✭✭Cherryblossom wrote: »I want more slots, I already pay for the game, I don't want to pay any more..
It doesn't matter if you want them or not. They are not coming in a foreseeable future and that's a fact.
Then the whole thread doesn't matter either, I suppose? It's just a poll, not more, not less.
Unfortunately, yes.1 -
Tabbycat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Sure—if the price is right.I know we aren't getting them, but I still wouldn't mind having more of them. I would prefer to get more slots through an expansion, though, rather than individual purchase.Founder and Co-GM of The Psijic Order Guild (NA)
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AlexDougherty✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I don't care either way.I really don't care either way.
I have enough for me, but I won't stand in the way on those who are addicted to alts.People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
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Audigy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭lecarcajou_ESO wrote: »
The Thing is,
people might like additional Char slots but not for real money. I am not a fan of games like GW2, SWTOR etc. where you must pay 10-25 bucks for a char slot.
It gives players such a huge advantage that it becomes almost mandatory.
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Merlin13KAGL✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭At least let us have 10 slots, for free. Cannot be so difficult
(yeah, I know, the server space etc, but just 2 more)
How about, take away 2 slots and make things 25% more responsive?
Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
Earn it.
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Pseudolo✭✭✭Sure—if the price is right.For now I'm ok, but I'd like to maybe buy 1 or 2 slots in the future. There are 9 races and 8 slots, so...0 -
Pallmor✭✭✭✭✭
✭Cherryblossom wrote: »I want more slots, I already pay for the game, I don't want to pay any more..
Yeah, and I want more chicken wings. But this ain't no all-you-can-eat buffet, so I got to pay for them!1 -
phtony06b14_ESO✭✭✭I won't be buying new character slots unless they address the storage issue. No way will I pay for additional storage by having to buy additional pack mules.1 -
Nestor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'd like to—but I think there's a reason we can't (specify, please).WyndStryke wrote: »
I didn't realise that. I thought they used their own servers?
With a dynamic population that an MMO can have, this is the only feasible way to run the game. Jeff Bezos was a genius when he built his server farms to run Amazon as it does not take that much more money to build a huge server farm instead of a large server farm. Plus you can really start to leverage economies of scale. Like with cooling. Next to moving the bits around cooling is the biggest electrical draw of a server farm and it might even cost as much as powering the servers. But, if you have a large enough installation, they can introduce passive cooling, and even harness that heat to create electricity. So, he built these huge server farms and rented out the excess capacity to people who need servers.
People talk about the expense and pain of increasing the storage of a server farm, and they are right, it's not as easy to as throwing in a couple more racks, stacking some servers and hitting the power button. All the infrastructure has to be taken into consideration. And it takes time to plan for this, order the parts, build them, burn them in, configure them, etc etc etc. AWS eliminates all that by just asking, how much server space do you need today? Ok here it is. This is why most companies that needs server space in the cloud use something like AWS. They can grow the data processing side of their business quickly and easily, or reduce it and not be looking at piles of parts that have no resell value.
This is why we have a Mega Server, it can grow or shrink as it needs to, and ZOS only pays for the server space it needs for that month. So, to give a couple more character slots is nothing but a phone call away. Besides, it does not matter how many character slots you have, you can only play one at a time. So the load on the server does not change with more slots, just the storage needs.
I have no idea how big a character save is, but it has to be smaller than Skyrim which needed to keep track of each item in the game and if it changed position or not, along with the changes to each cell. In this game, it just needs to keep track of coordinates, inventory, and which instance the characters are to be placed in and quest progression. So, what, 10MB per character (Skyrim would approach 20MB or more at the end game). So, it could be even less than 10MB. So, if I carry the decimal right, that's 10 TB of space to give everyone another character slot. That's 8 2TB Drives in a Raid 10 array per character slot for everyone. So, that is about $5000 for each character slot that they want to give to everyone who plays. Or, in the case of AWS, probably about an extra $400 a month in rental fees for two character slots added to the game.
Edited by Nestor on October 30, 2014 3:15PMEnjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
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rsciw✭✭✭As far as I know ESO uses their own DC/server farm, not AWS (based on the whole EU move with pics thread/news article). Though incidentally AWS just this week announced their new Frankfurt region ^^
As per topic, I wouldn't mind more slots, two account slots more would give me 20 character slots, can live with that
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Sindala✭✭✭✭✭They said no to 10 char slots because that's what's required for Guild creation/tabards.
The only way your ever going to get 10 char slots (which is just a stupid high amount anyway) is if they raise Guild requirement to 15 chars.....Ect.Being First is not the prize, it just mean's everyone can stab you in the back.0 -
adriant1978✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Sure—if the price is right.Complete altaholic here, currently maxed out on the EU server and only 2 slots left on the NA server. I need MOAR and it's going to be so depressing when I have to start deleting.0 -
Moonshadow66✭✭✭✭✭
✭Merlin13KAGL wrote: »
As much as I'd love to get more slots (as I wrote already), I absolutely agree.
The responsiveness is a pain, and it became even worse during the last few weeks, at least on my end.
So, I gladly trade 2 slots for 25% more responsiveness^^Venus Ocean - Breton Sorceress VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Gixia - Breton Sorceress VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero
Frances Demnevanni - Breton Dragonknight VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Raygee - Breton Nightblade VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero
Lady Olivieri - Breton Nightblade VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Donna Demnevanni - Breton Templar VR16, DC, Tamriel Hero
Elaine Benes - Breton Templar VR16, EP | Ray McCluck - Breton Sorcerer VR16, EP
Moonshadow Demnevanni - Dunmer Dragonknight Lvl 50, EP | Jamie Stacey - Redguard Templar Lvl 50, EP
Caia Cosades - Imperial Nightblade, EP0 -
Nestor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'd like to—but I think there's a reason we can't (specify, please).They said no to 10 char slots because that's what's required for Guild creation/tabards.
Isn't that 10 accounts? Because if not, then two people could form their own guild, and 7 could have a guild bank with 500 slots. If that was the case, then we would have heard about it by now in the inventory threads.
If it is the case, than I am going to create a guild tonight.
Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
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lecarcajou_ESO✭✭✭✭Merlin13KAGL wrote: »How about, take away 2 slots and make things 25% more responsive?
Make it 30% and we have a deal!!
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Kayo1Soul ShrivenI've more than enough as it is.Where is the "No" option?
My thoughts exactly... sort of. No MT's. If for what ever reason they believe more slots are needed or beneficial to the game then just add them. Probably wont happen until expansions hit and they add more classes.Edited by Kayo1 on October 30, 2014 6:40PM0 -
Nerouyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I'd like to—but I think there's a reason we can't (specify, please).WyndStryke wrote: »But database server space is very expensive - backups, replication, all takes time and money ...
What's your basis for this claim?
The ongoing cost of maintaining an MMO - including database servers - is extremely low. Blizzard released detailed financial info on this a couple of years after launch. Excluding further development costs it's a tiny fraction of the subscription. The major component of that tiny fraction is customer support staff.
If you want proof, look at free-to-play games that sell extra character slots. They're usually pretty cheap. Since such microtransactions are their only form of income you'd expect the cost to cover such ongoing database server space and include a healthy profit margin.
Just to use a game I know as an example, Star Trek Online sells extra character slots for $2.50 each.
The kind of character data we're talking about doesn't occupy much space. This individual forum post could very well occupy more database server space than all of your characters combined. That's because all character data other than your name is numeric and that's stored very efficiently.0 -
WyndStryke✭✭✭I've more than enough as it is.There is a huge difference between 'cheap' and 'free'.
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Leeric✭✭✭✭Terrible poll. Your options are awful. No I don't think we should be able to have more, especially pay for more.0 -
SharranAes✭✭✭Not if we have to pay for it, no;
As we pay subscriptions, stuff should -not- be locked behind pay gates
Subscription = Full access to everything0
