PvP Frame rate

DivineCrysis · October 2014

I noticed when I was in a huge PvP battle my fps would drop down to around 15 (high settings). So during the battle I decided to turn everything to the lowest settings possible and got the exact same frame rate as almost everything maxed out after the load screen finished. Any news on this getting fixed or how to fix the problem?

MagnusRex · October 2014

nope, maybe in a few months...

Sallington · October 2014

It's a CPU bottleneck, so changing the graphics settings won't do much to improve framerate. Nothing is going to change until they do some optimization.

I have an FX-6300 @ 4.5ghz and I hit 12-15FPS during large battles as well, despite also running a overclocked GTX 970. Outside of large battle and crowded cities I never go below 60fps on 1440p.

Morvul · October 2014

yeah... overclocking my i5 from 3.3 to 4.5 GHz helped to up my FPS in large battles from 12ish to 18 or so.
which, percentage wise, is a massive improovement...

does not change the fact that it's still terrible...
and worst of all: it used to be much, much better 3 months ago (rough estimate - before the whole "new lightning effects screw-up"

Kirsch9 · October 2014

Yep, when i first load into Cyrodiil I'm like, "Mhmm... 58-63 fps huh? Did they fix something?" Then I travel to Allessia and soon leave because 10-20 FPS suck, I can't tell AD from EP because one second they're there and the next they're gone, oh and the constant client drops. You know, were you're still running around chopping away at s**t, and then you realize you're dc'd

$:\$

:'(

I run a slightly overclocked AMD FX 8350 @ 4.2 GHz with a single NVIDIA GTX 760 and the same goes for me. PvE, low populated cities and small fights I'm good, still not what it should be, but 40-50 fps is fair enough I suppose. It's amazing compared to 15 lol.

Tried that whole "drop all your settings to low or off" thing... Same s**t if not worse! How is that even possible?! lol

Sallington · October 2014

Kirsch9 wrote: »

Yep, when i first load into Cyrodiil I'm like, "Mhmm... 58-63 fps huh? Did they fix something?" Then I travel to Allessia and soon leave because 10-20 FPS suck, I can't tell AD from EP because one second they're there and the next they're gone, oh and the constant client drops. You know, were you're still running around chopping away at s**t, and then you realize you're dc'd $:\$ :'(

I run a slightly overclocked AMD FX 8350 @ 4.2 GHz with a single NVIDIA GTX 760 and the same goes for me. PvE, low populated cities and small fights I'm good, still not what it should be, but 40-50 fps is fair enough I suppose. It's amazing compared to 15 lol.

Tried that whole "drop all your settings to low or off" thing... Same s**t if not worse! How is that even possible?! lol

It's pretty crazy. I get 60fps whether I'm rendering at 4K or 1080p, in most non populated areas. The graphics are nice, but not hard to max out. Once other players are added into the mix the frames just drop. I wish there was a way to offload the workload to the GPU since I have so much processing power not being utilized on it, but I don't know enough about programming to know if that's even possible.

Kirsch9 · October 2014

Yeah, I hang in the high 50's to mid 60's when I'm out and about PvEing with a few people in the area but like I said, get to a populated area and it's a crap shoot. The game seems to spike a lot I've noticed. For instance I'll be running along in the 55-65 range, and then here comes like 6 people in a quest area or a dolmen and it starts jumping from 55 to 31 to 47, 20, 10 then back up to 60...

Side note:
Has anyone noted a difference when EVERYONE in the area is in one group?
Probably be hard to tell though.

Sallington · October 2014

Kirsch9 wrote: »

Side note:
Has anyone noted a difference when EVERYONE in the area is in one group?
Probably be hard to tell though.

I've noticed that sometimes when I join a large group, the game will lag out for a few seconds. Same thing when I check the campaign score for the first time.

Rune_Relic · October 2014

A lot of the lag is server load. Everyone's system crumbles the same at the same time in big fights AFAIK.

SoulScream · October 2014

Dang I was just thinking of upgrading my computer but it doesn't look like it would help!

Davadin · October 2014

I got a 4670K @4.2 (modest) and overclocked 970. Anywhere in PvE (even Riften at busy hours) i maxed out at v-sync 60. Sometimes drop to 50 when there are a lot of effects going on.

But in Cyro, once I hit a big enough group, it goes down to 30. Once the pain train passes by with the spampulse, I'm sitting around 18-20....... ugh.

Lava_Croft · October 2014

PvP framerates have been ruined by the so-called 'lighting patch' and have never really been properly fixed. What you are experiencing now is ZOS' seemingly band-aid approach when it comes to fixing these horrible regressions.

Ezareth · October 2014

Got a 3.7 Core I7 and a R90X DirectCU II card at 2560X1600 with every setting set to max and ultra and even in the worst zerg fest I never drop below 40 FPS. If I were running at 1080 or 1440P like some of you it would be even higher so you guys are definitely hitting some sort of hardware bottleneck.

AllPlayAndNoWork · October 2014

Kirsch9 wrote: »

I run a slightly overclocked AMD FX 8350 @ 4.2 GHz with a single NVIDIA GTX 760 and the same goes for me. PvE, low populated cities and small fights I'm good, still not what it should be, but 40-50 fps is fair enough I suppose. It's amazing compared to 15 lol.

I have the same set up - One of the things that solved the FPS problem for me was to play the game in full screen... NOT full screen windowed.

And this.

http://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/24mep9/compilation_of_teso_performancefps_tweaks/

Davadin · October 2014

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

Got a 3.7 Core I7 and a R90X DirectCU II card at 2560X1600 with every setting set to max and ultra and even in the worst zerg fest I never drop below 40 FPS. If I were running at 1080 or 1440P like some of you it would be even higher so you guys are definitely hitting some sort of hardware bottleneck.

Nothing personal, but can you video it? I find it hard to believe 40FPS on the "worst zerg fest".

How about OS? Windows 7? 8.1?
What's your internet connection?

RAM? I got 8GB.... not enough??

Lava_Croft · October 2014

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

Got a 3.7 Core I7 and a R90X DirectCU II card at 2560X1600 with every setting set to max and ultra and even in the worst zerg fest I never drop below 40 FPS. If I were running at 1080 or 1440P like some of you it would be even higher so you guys are definitely hitting some sort of hardware bottleneck.

This completely ignores the fact that it might very well be the engine itself having trouble with certain hardware configurations.

Ezareth · October 2014

Davadin wrote: »

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

Got a 3.7 Core I7 and a R90X DirectCU II card at 2560X1600 with every setting set to max and ultra and even in the worst zerg fest I never drop below 40 FPS. If I were running at 1080 or 1440P like some of you it would be even higher so you guys are definitely hitting some sort of hardware bottleneck.

Nothing personal, but can you video it? I find it hard to believe 40FPS on the "worst zerg fest".

How about OS? Windows 7? 8.1?
What's your internet connection?

RAM? I got 8GB.... not enough??

Windows 7, 8 GB (Anything over that is overkill anyways). Internet connection is solid but that should have no bearing on FPS really.

I could video it for you if you wish, I play all the time and I haven't had an FPS issue since they fixed the bug other than the occasional FPS bug caused by someone hitting you with Ambush that puts you at 2-3FPS until you reboot the client completely.

Lava_Croft wrote: »

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

Got a 3.7 Core I7 and a R90X DirectCU II card at 2560X1600 with every setting set to max and ultra and even in the worst zerg fest I never drop below 40 FPS. If I were running at 1080 or 1440P like some of you it would be even higher so you guys are definitely hitting some sort of hardware bottleneck.

This completely ignores the fact that it might very well be the engine itself having trouble with certain hardware configurations.

Yes I'm assuming it isn't a horsepower issue as much as possibly a Nvdia/Ati issue or possibly an AMD/Intel issue.

I'm suspecting the no animation bug is hardware exclusive and I do get that all the time during zerg fights mainly although I don't lag at all when they are working fine for the first 10 minutes or so before they bug out.

Kartalin · October 2014

When I went to an SSD drive from a regular hard drive that really improved the performance of ESO (among some of the other things mentioned above). Decreases the read time of which there is a lot.

Arowe_eso · October 2014

milthalas wrote: »

When I went to an SSD drive from a regular hard drive that really improved the performance of ESO (among some of the other things mentioned above). Decreases the read time of which there is a lot.

thats good to know. other than lower than desired fps the only performance issue ive had is mini freezes, which i assumed were due to texture loads as the usually occur when ambushing on my NB or streaking on my sorc

Ezareth · October 2014

Yeah I use a SSD as well. Its been so long since I used a HD for my system partition that I for a to of people are still using them.

SSD is the single greatest performance upgrade you can do to your computer from a price/performance standpoint.

Arowe_eso · October 2014

i have one for windows chrome etc already but have been considering getting a larger one to fit eso and other games. The boot times are too amazing

Kirsch9 · October 2014

AllPlayAndNoWork wrote: »

Kirsch9 wrote: »

I run a slightly overclocked AMD FX 8350 @ 4.2 GHz with a single NVIDIA GTX 760 and the same goes for me. PvE, low populated cities and small fights I'm good, still not what it should be, but 40-50 fps is fair enough I suppose. It's amazing compared to 15 lol.

I have the same set up - One of the things that solved the FPS problem for me was to play the game in full screen... NOT full screen windowed.

And this.

http://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/24mep9/compilation_of_teso_performancefps_tweaks/

Nice, things seem to be working a bit smoother after a few of those tweaks.

Good post my friend, thank you.

Tankqull · October 2014

DivineCrysis wrote: »

I noticed when I was in a huge PvP battle my fps would drop down to around 15 (high settings). So during the battle I decided to turn everything to the lowest settings possible and got the exact same frame rate as almost everything maxed out after the load screen finished. Any news on this getting fixed or how to fix the problem?

the funny part is i have depending on the char used severe differences in FPS +/- 60% while beeing in comparable situations in pvp with the exact same settings...