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Red and Blue co-operating. I don't like it.

  • Blackthorn51
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    I'll tell you people straight up that we do NOT allow for emp flipping. We utterly HATE AD on Haderus. I am one of the raid leaders of the Tyago group. We loath the AD Zerg, Impulse, Bat Monkies and we fight them to the ******* death. To the point where we've lost many of our own people to unsubbing. I myself almost did the same until Tyago talked me out of it. We make our pushes for emp when we see the opportunity and almost every single time it's Tyago who get's crowned. He doesn't even want the crown. We just want to strip AD of their precious buffs. Even though we're up against 2 bar pop vs 18 guys every day. We coordinate with DC when we have to and fight them when AD isn't around. At the end of the day though, no one wants AD to have anything what so ever because of how badly they abuse their population and their pvdoor night capping. AD can suck it.
  • FluffiestOne
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    I'll tell you people straight up that we do NOT allow for emp flipping. We utterly HATE AD on Haderus. I am one of the raid leaders of the Tyago group. We loath the AD Zerg, Impulse, Bat Monkies and we fight them to the ******* death. To the point where we've lost many of our own people to unsubbing. I myself almost did the same until Tyago talked me out of it. We make our pushes for emp when we see the opportunity and almost every single time it's Tyago who get's crowned. He doesn't even want the crown. We just want to strip AD of their precious buffs. Even though we're up against 2 bar pop vs 18 guys every day. We coordinate with DC when we have to and fight them when AD isn't around. At the end of the day though, no one wants AD to have anything what so ever because of how badly they abuse their population and their pvdoor night capping. AD can suck it.

    ps: IF HE DOESN'T WANT EMP GIVE IT TO A DK, SO YOU GUYS CAN DEFEND YOUR ***.
    pss: hes not very good
    psss: sorry if i seem rude
    Fluffy
    Senior Fluffykins, Daggerfall Liberator of Haderus, Dragonknight.
    Fliffers, Daggerfall Liberator of Hopesfire, Templar.
    Prophet Fluffy of Death, Casual of the Dominion, Sorceror.
    Nozdorumu The Timeless, Daggerfall. Dragon. Nightblade.
    All my toon names are subject to change.
    " Ignorance must be bliss because I can't imagine why anyone would live in it. " -Fluffy
  • Asgari
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    Pixysticks wrote: »
    Pixysticks wrote: »
    I honestly don't get why people are in here complaining. EP and DC helping each other out and not attacking each other just means they both get less AP, and we get more AP because we can attack and kill anyone. You should be happy that they're doing stuff like this, so stop these dumb threads.

    I'll let you kill Yogurt Slinger any day after this commending post. They get mad that the NM mission is to just make AD lose all their keeps and we dont care what EP does. Boo Effing Hoo.



    p.s. I loled so much last night from your crushing shock kills on Yogurt Slinger.

    Yogurt Slingers everywhere must be kept down, or else they will start breeding and next thing you know they're everywhere, EVERYWHERE.

    Its already too late ... The Skeet Skeet has been spreading for days now. There is no turning back.
    Formerly @Persian_Princess .. Now @Asgari
    Princess Asgari | Sorc
    Asgari | NB
    -Asgari | Stamplar
    Ariana Kishi | DK | True Liberator of Haderus
    Banner Down!
    No Mercy
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  • Aoe_Barbecue
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    Nala_ wrote: »
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    everyone watched you take the emp keeps then not defend them and let ep take them all so they could get emp. but ok denying it works too


    but let me clear 1 thing for stupid people. letting EP get emperor doesnt mean we are "emp trading"

    lol, you take the keeps for them to dethrone then dont defend and let them take all your keeps. ya keep on exploiting, no mercy hasnt exploited enough in the past 5 months

    You see, people say this sometimes. But, it's never, ever qualified or proven. People initially accused us of "exploiting" by Dragon Leaping onto keeps. This, of course, is hardly an exploit. Please make me aware of how else we have "exploited" lol. Otherwise, it's just so much hot air.
  • Nala_
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    Nala_ wrote: »
    Nala_ wrote: »
    everyone watched you take the emp keeps then not defend them and let ep take them all so they could get emp. but ok denying it works too


    but let me clear 1 thing for stupid people. letting EP get emperor doesnt mean we are "emp trading"

    lol, you take the keeps for them to dethrone then dont defend and let them take all your keeps. ya keep on exploiting, no mercy hasnt exploited enough in the past 5 months

    You see, people say this sometimes. But, it's never, ever qualified or proven. People initially accused us of "exploiting" by Dragon Leaping onto keeps. This, of course, is hardly an exploit. Please make me aware of how else we have "exploited" lol. Otherwise, it's just so much hot air.

    i guess you dont count your nbs 1 shotting people with that scaling damage bug exploiting, or you logging onto an alt and grabbing a scroll and running it back to your own faction exploiting, or dragon leaping into keep inners exploiting. oh ya why do people always say no mercy exploits all the time? duh
  • Aoe_Barbecue
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    By "your nb's" you mean one Nightblade. This hardly counts as all of No Mercy. Also, Dragon Leaping to valid targets is not exploiting. Also, I was not aware that running scrolls in the wrong direction was an exploit? It's an interesting in-game choice to be sure ... but exploit? Nah.
  • Ezareth
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    My question is if AD is so mad about EP getting emp, why didn't they go grab an inner circle keep to stop it?

    We didn't care if EP got Emp. Tyago as Emp is not a bad thing as he is less effective than I am with Emp due to his build and playstyle( no insult to him). Our main forces focused on defend the 4 keeps we had left. We tried taking alessia from DC but DC and EP worked together against us to give the keep to EP. I just switched over to Thornblade after that as EP never attack after getting Emp and there were no fights for a good half hour.

    Pixysticks wrote: »
    I honestly don't get why people are in here complaining. EP and DC helping each other out and not attacking each other just means they both get less AP, and we get more AP because we can attack and kill anyone. You should be happy that they're doing stuff like this, so stop these dumb threads.

    I'll let you kill Yogurt Slinger any day after this commending post. They get mad that the NM mission is to just make AD lose all their keeps and we dont care what EP does. Boo Effing Hoo.



    p.s. I loled so much last night from your crushing shock kills on Yogurt Slinger.

    Killing a guy running no Impen and 2400 hitpoints is easy. He hits like a truck though ( :
    By "your nb's" you mean one Nightblade. This hardly counts as all of No Mercy. Also, Dragon Leaping to valid targets is not exploiting. Also, I was not aware that running scrolls in the wrong direction was an exploit? It's an interesting in-game choice to be sure ... but exploit? Nah.

    There is a very line that borders the difference between creative use of game mechanics and exploiting. Using your alts on another faction to do something that would be considered "trolling" were it your main in order to aid the team your main plays on would be considered exploitingby the majority of the PvP community. It wouldn't have even been a big thing if you ever showed the slightest regret or remorse over it, but instead it was quite the opposite.

    I know one active player in NM who was the biggest caltrop exploiter in Volendrung. I wouldn't say you're all a bunch of exploiters however, I just haven't seen your leadership take a stance that suggested "fair play" was a guiding principle of the guild.
    Permanently banned from the forums for displaying dissent: ESO - The Year Behind
    Too Much Bolt Escape - banned for "hacking the game to create movement not otherwise permitted by in game mechanics."
    Ezareth VR16 AD Sorc - Rank 36 - Axe NA
    Ezareth-Ali VR16 DC NB - Rank 20 - Chillrend NA
    Ezareth PvP on Youtube
  • Nala_
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    inb4 "caltrop exploit wasnt really an exploit". hasnt half your guild been banned at one point in time for dragonleaping into keeps? how is it that youre still saying thats not an exploit after they banned you guys for it, hova speccialy.
  • Ezareth
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    Nala_ wrote: »
    inb4 "caltrop exploit wasnt really an exploit". hasnt half your guild been banned at one point in time for dragonleaping into keeps? how is it that youre still saying thats not an exploit after they banned you guys for it, hova speccialy.

    I've never considered leaping into keeps an exploit unless you're re arranging for an alt on the opposing team to position himself for you to make the leap.

    I remember ages back when murder thumbs leaped into a keep defended by 50 DC....killed them all...and turned the keep yellow. Haha those were the days.
    Permanently banned from the forums for displaying dissent: ESO - The Year Behind
    Too Much Bolt Escape - banned for "hacking the game to create movement not otherwise permitted by in game mechanics."
    Ezareth VR16 AD Sorc - Rank 36 - Axe NA
    Ezareth-Ali VR16 DC NB - Rank 20 - Chillrend NA
    Ezareth PvP on Youtube
  • WarrioroftheWind_ESO
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    Nala_ wrote: »
    i guess you dont count your nbs 1 shotting people with that scaling damage bug exploiting, or you logging onto an alt and grabbing a scroll and running it back to your own faction exploiting, or dragon leaping into keep inners exploiting. oh ya why do people always say no mercy exploits all the time? duh

    That's hardly an exploit. It's no different from when AD has spies on alts running with our core group, or heck even when there's EP players who want to advance their own goals at the cost of the overall faction pop that feed AD info.

    I don't view recent events on Had as emp trading/farming. I witnessed such first hand on Volendrung and on Had it takes several hours for both factions, multiple guilds involved, to take the inner ring. Vol saw the ring being flipped on the hour. What we have going on Haderus is pvp as it SHOULD be. Multiple factions fighting over a resource. FIGHTING. Not leaving walls undefended/unrepaired so the enemy can waltz in and take the flag. Not "come on lads take the ring" "Spot o' tea guvna?" "Oh tis our turn to get emp? Tally ***!"

    The nature of Had as a short camp means scores get reset every week, and because of the 50k requirement, in the event there's a last-minute ring cap, anyone who plays long enough at the right time can get emp. Ideally it should be the most consistently performing players who get it, but there's always circumstances that pop up. Say it's a patch day, previous week's #1 player happens to work and forgets to download the patch. That leaves the door open for whoever is able to rise to the rank when the ring caps. But that's how emp should work. It should be awarded to the best performing player at the time, not the 'next in line'. Nor should the best players be expected/coerced to 'stepping aside'. Vol you had emps abdicating left and right so they could make room for their guildies, then they'd re-home to get the buffs.

    I welcome incursions by DC. Braidas, Hovaling, and AOEBBQ and co. bring the necessary conflict to support healthy PVP. I hope 1.5 changes things I really do, and I still maintain former emp buffs should be removed, but I doubt Zeni will change their mind on that as they actually *retroactively* rewarded players with buffs. The more people realize they don't have to cram onto one server the better PVP will become.

    >8( Though I must say I am rather disappointed in the legions of Lord Fluffykins. What the hell like 16 of EP's core and a smaller guild group held off a 50+ zerg for 3 hours at Arrius and Chalman, but you couldn't get more than 5 sieges up at Rayles or Warden? C'mon, we've taken keeps with 4 people.
  • MiyaTheUnbroken
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    I'll tell you people straight up that we do NOT allow for emp flipping. We utterly HATE AD on Haderus. I am one of the raid leaders of the Tyago group. We loath the AD Zerg, Impulse, Bat Monkies and we fight them to the ******* death. To the point where we've lost many of our own people to unsubbing. I myself almost did the same until Tyago talked me out of it. We make our pushes for emp when we see the opportunity and almost every single time it's Tyago who get's crowned. He doesn't even want the crown. We just want to strip AD of their precious buffs. Even though we're up against 2 bar pop vs 18 guys every day. We coordinate with DC when we have to and fight them when AD isn't around. At the end of the day though, no one wants AD to have anything what so ever because of how badly they abuse their population and their pvdoor night capping. AD can suck it.

    Aww, but you guys are my favorite. I'm being sincere, I always enjoy fighting EP. Even when I die, I have fun. When I die to DC it's usually just frustrating, but with you guys it's usually awesome. You spread out, and then group up, then spread out, you sneak around behind us when we're breaching, you guys are interesting and dynamic fighters. And my deaths to y'all are usually epic.

    I remember the other day at the Altadoon gate I had been fighting a sorc until the point we were both drained. He bolt escaped and went into hiding. I retreating manueverd and pursued. I was standing on a rock when I spotted him just below me with but a scrap of life. I leapt off the rock flinging arrows like mad, the blood lust swelling within me. I could taste his blood and it was delicious. When I was just above his head and he was one arrow away from dead, he pulled out the biggest two hander I'd ever seen, and slammed it right into my face, killing me in mid air.

    I only wish I'd caught his name. Well played, sir. Well played.
    Edited by MiyaTheUnbroken on October 26, 2014 5:00AM
  • Ezareth
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    I'll tell you people straight up that we do NOT allow for emp flipping. We utterly HATE AD on Haderus. I am one of the raid leaders of the Tyago group. We loath the AD Zerg, Impulse, Bat Monkies and we fight them to the ******* death. To the point where we've lost many of our own people to unsubbing. I myself almost did the same until Tyago talked me out of it. We make our pushes for emp when we see the opportunity and almost every single time it's Tyago who get's crowned. He doesn't even want the crown. We just want to strip AD of their precious buffs. Even though we're up against 2 bar pop vs 18 guys every day. We coordinate with DC when we have to and fight them when AD isn't around. At the end of the day though, no one wants AD to have anything what so ever because of how badly they abuse their population and their pvdoor night capping. AD can suck it.

    Aww, but you guys are my favorite. I'm being sincere, I always enjoy fighting EP. Even when I die, I have fun. When I die to DC it's usually just frustrating, but with you guys it's usually awesome. You spread out, and then group up, then spread out, you sneak around behind us when we're breaching, you guys are interesting and dynamic fighters. And my deaths to y'all are usually epic.

    I remember the other day at the Altadoon gate I had been fighting a sorc until the point we were both drained. He bolt escaped and went into hiding. I retreating manueverd and pursued. I was standing on a rock when I spotted him just below me with but a scrap of life. I leapt off the rock flinging arrows like mad, the blood lust swelling within me. I could taste his blood and it was delicious. When I was just above his head and he was one arrow away from dead, he pulled out the biggest two hander I'd ever seen, and slammed it right into my face, killing me in mid air.

    I only wish I'd caught his name. Well played, sir. Well played.

    If he was EP that would be Matao.
    Permanently banned from the forums for displaying dissent: ESO - The Year Behind
    Too Much Bolt Escape - banned for "hacking the game to create movement not otherwise permitted by in game mechanics."
    Ezareth VR16 AD Sorc - Rank 36 - Axe NA
    Ezareth-Ali VR16 DC NB - Rank 20 - Chillrend NA
    Ezareth PvP on Youtube
  • Aoe_Barbecue
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    Ezareth wrote:
    There is a very line that borders the difference between creative use of game mechanics and exploiting. Using your alts on another faction to do something that would be considered "trolling" were it your main in order to aid the team your main plays on would be considered exploitingby the majority of the PvP community. It wouldn't have even been a big thing if you ever showed the slightest regret or remorse over it, but instead it was quite the opposite.

    Of course I have no regret for it. It was retaliatory. I can even give you the @ name of the guy that ran the scroll out of Alessia ;)
    Nala wrote:
    inb4 "caltrop exploit wasnt really an exploit". hasnt half your guild been banned at one point in time for dragonleaping into keeps? how is it that youre still saying thats not an exploit after they banned you guys for it, hova speccialy.

    I wasn't in NM back in Volendrung days. However, the caltrops bug was used universally. No bans were handed out for it. Also, the banning was not for the Dragon Leaping per se, but because of the volume of people reporting. Also, only one of us was ever banned at all and it was immediately removed upon ZoS actually looking into the issue as opposed to relying on their autoban when a certain player is reported a certain amount of times in a certain time period.
  • MiyaTheUnbroken
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    I'll tell you people straight up that we do NOT allow for emp flipping. We utterly HATE AD on Haderus. I am one of the raid leaders of the Tyago group. We loath the AD Zerg, Impulse, Bat Monkies and we fight them to the ******* death. To the point where we've lost many of our own people to unsubbing. I myself almost did the same until Tyago talked me out of it. We make our pushes for emp when we see the opportunity and almost every single time it's Tyago who get's crowned. He doesn't even want the crown. We just want to strip AD of their precious buffs. Even though we're up against 2 bar pop vs 18 guys every day. We coordinate with DC when we have to and fight them when AD isn't around. At the end of the day though, no one wants AD to have anything what so ever because of how badly they abuse their population and their pvdoor night capping. AD can suck it.

    Aww, but you guys are my favorite. I'm being sincere, I always enjoy fighting EP. Even when I die, I have fun. When I die to DC it's usually just frustrating, but with you guys it's usually awesome. You spread out, and then group up, then spread out, you sneak around behind us when we're breaching, you guys are interesting and dynamic fighters. And my deaths to y'all are usually epic.

    I remember the other day at the Altadoon gate I had been fighting a sorc until the point we were both drained. He bolt escaped and went into hiding. I retreating manueverd and pursued. I was standing on a rock when I spotted him just below me with but a scrap of life. I leapt off the rock flinging arrows like mad, the blood lust swelling within me. I could taste his blood and it was delicious. When I was just above his head and he was one arrow away from dead, he pulled out the biggest two hander I'd ever seen, and slammed it right into my face, killing me in mid air.

    I only wish I'd caught his name. Well played, sir. Well played.

    If he was EP that would be Matao.

    Please let him know he has my respect. It was an honor to die to him.
  • Mountain_Dewed
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    I'll tell you people straight up that we do NOT allow for emp flipping. We utterly HATE AD on Haderus. I am one of the raid leaders of the Tyago group. We loath the AD Zerg, Impulse, Bat Monkies and we fight them to the ******* death. To the point where we've lost many of our own people to unsubbing. I myself almost did the same until Tyago talked me out of it. We make our pushes for emp when we see the opportunity and almost every single time it's Tyago who get's crowned. He doesn't even want the crown. We just want to strip AD of their precious buffs. Even though we're up against 2 bar pop vs 18 guys every day. We coordinate with DC when we have to and fight them when AD isn't around. At the end of the day though, no one wants AD to have anything what so ever because of how badly they abuse their population and their pvdoor night capping. AD can suck it.

    I understand your hate, I truly do. Remember that there are a few innocent AD players too and we dislike some of the crap we see happen. Some of us have even written(numerous times) to Zenimax about some of these issues and have not seen a workaround yet...

    I shouldn't say "few". There are more good than bad, it's just the bad sticks out huge like.
    Edited by Mountain_Dewed on October 27, 2014 12:17PM
  • DlSTORTlON
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    Please 'don't mistakenly misinterpret these notes as true.'
    DlSTORTlON wrote: »
    OVERVIEW

    The Elder Scrolls Online v1.4.8 addresses several issues with the Alliance War to clear up confusion and aid new players of the Ebonheart Pact & Daggerfall Covenant. It includes an updated map interface and an additional chat tab in an effort to help streamline cross-faction organisation.


    FIXES & IMPROVEMENTS

    Alliance War
    General
    • Updated the map to clearly show 'friendly' and 'enemy' keeps in Cyrodiil. Keeps owned by Ebonheart Pact & Daggerfall Covenant will now display as purple to clearly show to new players who their only enemy is.
    • An additional chat tab has been added to the UI of Ebonheart Pact & Daggerfall Covenant players while in Cyrodiil to streamline co-ordination between both factions. /purple
    • Updated the way siege weapons work in order to adapt to the ownership of keeps. Ebonheart Pact & Daggerfall Covenant players will no longer be able to damage each others Keep Walls, Postern Doors and Main Gates.
    • Updated how 'friendly fire' works and now Ebonheart Pact & Daggerfall Covenant players will no longer be able to do damage to each other.
    • Updated how healing works and now Ebonheart Pact & Daggerfall Covenant players will be able to heal each other.

    Already on PTS:
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    Moderator note: Edited to remove name and link from the quote to avoid confusion.

    Since the thread ,Patch Note v1.4.8, was sunk; here you go. Enjoy! :p
    Edited by DlSTORTlON on October 27, 2014 3:42PM
    ZOS - proving that incompetence is rewarded more often than not since 2007

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  • Mukuro
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    AD/DC.. it doesnt matter. They both die the same... although i will go out of my way to kill an AD native of Haderus... especially those few who seem to single me out of a crowd all the time..... see you in 5 hours
    Illusions... or real illusions. Within the illusions hide real illusions... from the real illusions, the illusions are created. Within the truth hides the lie... within the lie hides the truth.
    (EP) V13 Sorc "Mukuro Rokudo"
    (EP) V3 Temp "Unmei No Yari"
    (AD) V5 Nb "L'uomo Nero"
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