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Stamina NB vs. Current Emperor

  • msawwan2ub17_ESO
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    Soulac wrote: »
    Combat Prayer
    Aggresive Horn (+ Stamina + Weapon dmg)
    Charging Maneuver
    Flawness Dawnbreaker
    Stamina/Weapon Power Potion
    be a NB for extra sneak DMG
    be a Khajiit/Bosmer for extra sneak DMG
    be at max range for max passive bonus
    get some badass sets.

    with next patch a a NB -> Death Stroke on some animal for a 20% dmg boost

    Maybe there is more, but well i don´t run a bow and i don´t care about the max. Snipe dmg :P

    impressive

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  • shebali
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    The best part I love about this is the devs are in the same boat as the QQ group. While the setup does a lot of damage, it is not fast and needs to be setup. They act like everyone is doing this and killing people in one shot.

    You should never balance a game on the 1% of min/max players. You need gear, rank, pots and the right timing. Again, not like everyone is doing this.
  • Ezareth
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    Everyone *could* do this with the right set bonuses and setup.

    I was 1-shotting people with meteor as Emp, 3800+ damage but that was against vampires and I have no way to guarantee a crit with a spell.

    I think the stealth Nerf should address this unless I'm missing other benefits that will ofset it.

    You don't balance around the top 1% of players but when balancing any game you should account for all possibilities and combinations. Sometimes players devise a way to use an ability that was never intended and that is when balance is needed.
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  • msawwan2ub17_ESO
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    Everyone *could* do this with the right set bonuses and setup.

    I was 1-shotting people with meteor as Emp, 3800+ damage but that was against vampires and I have no way to guarantee a crit with a spell.

    I think the stealth Nerf should address this unless I'm missing other benefits that will ofset it.

    You don't balance around the top 1% of players but when balancing any game you should account for all possibilities and combinations. Sometimes players devise a way to use an ability that was never intended and that is when balance is needed.

    In all honesty when I made that character I was hoping to troll people on it until Zos get enough complaints and they nerf the power of archers from stealth. but when i got to lvl 50 I heared that stealth dmg was already nerfed on PTS.

    I agee with the change somewhat. Snipe is too powerful unless people invest in psn glyphs like arx pointed out, even then people might go for the other morph focused aim and forget about the healing debuff, you are 1 hitting people anyway, so healing debuffing them is just an extra

    I dont know how will the stealth nerf affect NB class, i hope it doesnt make them weaker, but there are few good NBs out there that dont even use stealth.

    I am sure the good players will learn to adapt and move on.
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  • Rylana
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    Most of us that regularly go over 2k snipe wont see much difference really. Its the ones that top out around 1200 that will feel the pain.

    I use lethal arrow for the sheer reason that the immediate reaction from getting hit is to heal, especially DKs and Templars. Almost every DK I have ever shot will hit GDB before wings and that 1/4 second delay is usually life or death.
    Edited by Rylana on October 27, 2014 4:18AM
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  • Columba
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    Charging maneuver and a few other off bar skills as well as a well time potion enable 260+ weapon damage and a 82% crit rate. With camo and dawn breaker vs a vamp, it's doable. My max is 2250. My base crit is60%, so I am not worried about the stealth nerf. I will continue to kill with lethal arrow.
  • Mojomonkeyman
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    Everyone *could* do this with the right set bonuses and setup.

    I was 1-shotting people with meteor as Emp, 3800+ damage but that was against vampires and I have no way to guarantee a crit with a spell.

    I think the stealth Nerf should address this unless I'm missing other benefits that will ofset it.

    You don't balance around the top 1% of players but when balancing any game you should account for all possibilities and combinations. Sometimes players devise a way to use an ability that was never intended and that is when balance is needed.

    Maybe I understood you wrong, but in any successful PvP game you have to balance for only the top 1%. The remaining 99% have flawed play and you cannot judge balance on flawed play.

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  • FluffiestOne
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Most of us that regularly go over 2k snipe wont see much difference really. Its the ones that top out around 1200 that will feel the pain.

    I use lethal arrow for the sheer reason that the immediate reaction from getting hit is to heal, especially DKs and Templars. Almost every DK I have ever shot will hit GDB before wings and that 1/4 second delay is usually life or death.

    Wings -> Purge -> GDB -> Pot (if in fight) -> GG I'm at 90% now
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  • Rylana
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Most of us that regularly go over 2k snipe wont see much difference really. Its the ones that top out around 1200 that will feel the pain.

    I use lethal arrow for the sheer reason that the immediate reaction from getting hit is to heal, especially DKs and Templars. Almost every DK I have ever shot will hit GDB before wings and that 1/4 second delay is usually life or death.

    Wings -> Purge -> GDB -> Pot (if in fight) -> GG I'm at 90% now

    Almost every DK does it in the exact opposite order, is what I meant.

    I dont think they even realize theyve been healcut until they are at like 200 hp freaking out.
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  • Soulac
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    Soulac wrote: »
    Combat Prayer
    Aggressive Horn (+ Stamina + Weapon dmg)
    Charging Maneuver
    Flawness Dawnbreaker
    Weapon Power Potion
    be a NB for extra sneak DMG
    be a Khajiit/Bosmer for extra sneak DMG
    be at max range for max passive bonus
    get some badass sets
    Critdmg mundus
    Sharpened Trait + Armor Reduction (heavy armor, u know?)

    with next patch a a NB -> Death Stroke on some animal for a 20% dmg boost

    Maybe there is more, but well i don´t run a bow and i don´t care about the max. Snipe dmg :P



    Added two other things.. :P

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  • eliisra
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    Soulac wrote: »
    Critdmg mundus

    Does crit dmg modifiers like Shadow Mundus or Hemorrhage passive effect sneak damage tho? I mean sneak dmg and crit dmg is (from what I've heard) two different things, even if the result is the same. Asking because I dont know :confused:

  • Soulac
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    eliisra wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Critdmg mundus

    Does crit dmg modifiers like Shadow Mundus or Hemorrhage passive effect sneak damage tho? I mean sneak dmg and crit dmg is (from what I've heard) two different things, even if the result is the same. Asking because I dont know :confused:

    Well the dmg with sneak is always crit, so the mundus should effect it.
    I don´t care about sneakdmg so you´re free to test it yourself :P

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  • msawwan2ub17_ESO
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    eliisra wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Critdmg mundus

    Does crit dmg modifiers like Shadow Mundus or Hemorrhage passive effect sneak damage tho? I mean sneak dmg and crit dmg is (from what I've heard) two different things, even if the result is the same. Asking because I dont know :confused:

    they are both crit, they both follow same rules

    so sneak crit or none sneak crit are both affected by same stuff

    the only difference is sometimes you have sets or passives that also INCREASE the crit dmg from stealth. this is when your stealth crit do more than your regular crit.

    but any bonus you get for your regular crit dmg will help in sneak crit dmg
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    ~~ Self-proclaimed Best Player in the game ~~
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  • Suru
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    Highest i've hit for is 2400... a 3k Lethal Arrow is bloody impressive.

    You're vidz are awesome with snipe! Not sure if you have a NB or not, but imagine what you could do as a NB and their passives/skills!


    Suru
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