how is your build even close to support compared to mine?Princess_Asgari wrote: »
This thread IS about me and about how amazing my stamina NB is. Get your own threads about your weak builds. Keep out of mine with your sorry 1v1 non group supportive builds.
Princess_Asgari wrote: »
This thread IS about me and about how amazing my stamina NB is. Get your own threads about your weak builds. Keep out of mine with your sorry 1v1 non group supportive builds.
Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »I never mentioned your particular skill level. You seem awfully insecure about my opinion of you though lawlz. Regardless, your performance in groups was never impressive. If this is a matter of emotion for you, then speak for yourself
There were elements of TKO and Decibel sure. But it was far from a full showing. The group was never woefully outnumbered, just woefully out group-played.
I never played in any organized guild/group with you. At least for 4 Months + .. So in conclusion. There is too much salt on my bbq..
Araxleon wrote:dueling and soloing helps to train people in things you don't get from purely group play. you begin to learn the cues. not everyone wants to roll around in a train, and playstyles other than yours are not rendered invalid just because you don't play them. if you want to get into the semantics of what is "real pvp" and what is controlled and derivative, i'd suggest referencing to it by AvA instead, as anyone who plays any video game can tell you that pvp refers to an umbrella of styles which involve player versus player - group vs group OR dueling.
Princess_Asgari wrote: »Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »Princess_Asgari wrote: »
This thread IS about me and about how amazing my stamina NB is. Get your own threads about your weak builds. Keep out of mine with your sorry 1v1 non group supportive builds.
You just insulted "non group supportive builds" .. but .. your NB .. Never mind.
My NB is not my main. It is a hireling alt and an alt to place camps for the group. It just so happens it can blow everyone up in a skeet full burst.
Princess_Asgari wrote: »Princess_Asgari wrote: »There some reason you couldn't just continue replying to the thread on TF, and instead decided to come wave your e-*** around on the official forums about pretty much nothing?
Maybe there's a lack of attention being paid at home or something.
/shrug
Mmm e-peen. Yes in fact I love people knowing I'm better than them. It's why I play this game.
was actually w.a.n.g, which is somehow more offensive than peen. : P
Guess they can add that to the filter now haha
Okay come to duels, snipe me without warning and kill me. unless im already in a duel I can prob survive your snipe and go back to kill you. Honestly I understand people have gank builds even in duels and we allow gank hits. honestly even with first hit you cant kill me I believe no single sniper has really beaten me usually they need atleast 2 to kill me
You have 2k health yes? Good luck against an unexpected 2. 8k snipe.
Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »A slight digression:
I remember once a certain guild leader of a certain dueling guild attempted to get emperor on Azura's Star when it first opened. This group was filled with duelists. I was convinced to help because this was before said guild leader revealed to me that he was a bit of a cúnt. The attempt was utterly flattened by AD pugs with a few token AD people that I recognized, and the overall number was roughly even. Make of this what you will, but the conclusion should be obvious. A good duelist a good pvp'er does not make!
actually, as one of the AD there, he had about seven in his group at the very most, as the other DC guild there was refusing to help and was farming on the other side of the map. i have video. you were there only briefly.
22 versus 7 is not "roughly even" by anyone's standards.
i don't generally come into these threads. the hugbox gets a little dull after the first minute. what i can't respect is when someone unsuspecting comes in to comment, critique, or god forbid challenge you in a pvp setting, you all gang up to flame them even if they never went out of their way to insult you. the fragility and pettiness is really unbecoming of people who'd like others to think they're good pvp players.
if you wanna talk about peacocking and posturing things to suit you, well...
Princess_Asgari wrote: »
This thread IS about me and about how amazing my stamina NB is. Get your own threads about your weak builds. Keep out of mine with your sorry 1v1 non group supportive builds.
... wait...
Stamina NB ganker...
telling 1v1 non group builds to get out.
LOLZ y u in a group in first place, my stamina nb never runs grouped cause dont need that noise.
Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »I never mentioned your particular skill level. You seem awfully insecure about my opinion of you though lawlz. Regardless, your performance in groups was never impressive. If this is a matter of emotion for you, then speak for yourself
There were elements of TKO and Decibel sure. But it was far from a full showing. The group was never woefully outnumbered, just woefully out group-played.
I never played in any organized guild/group with you. At least for 4 Months + .. So in conclusion. There is too much salt on my bbq..
You've certainly grouped with me. Also, I find it amusing that you must use caricature to satisfy your feeble attempt to type at me.Araxleon wrote:dueling and soloing helps to train people in things you don't get from purely group play. you begin to learn the cues. not everyone wants to roll around in a train, and playstyles other than yours are not rendered invalid just because you don't play them. if you want to get into the semantics of what is "real pvp" and what is controlled and derivative, i'd suggest referencing to it by AvA instead, as anyone who plays any video game can tell you that pvp refers to an umbrella of styles which involve player versus player - group vs group OR dueling.
The fact that you think group play involves only impulse trains demonstrates your lack of knowledge on the subject. I would recommend not expressing expert opinions on purely hypothetical knowledge. Your play style is not invalid, simply irrelevant to the larger game context. If it were not, mechanics and Cyrodiil objectives would reflect it. There is quite a difference between invalidity and irrelevance.
you all gang up to flame them even if they never went out of their way to insult you
Princess_Asgari wrote: »Princess_Asgari wrote: »There some reason you couldn't just continue replying to the thread on TF, and instead decided to come wave your e-*** around on the official forums about pretty much nothing?
Maybe there's a lack of attention being paid at home or something.
/shrug
Mmm e-peen. Yes in fact I love people knowing I'm better than them. It's why I play this game.
was actually w.a.n.g, which is somehow more offensive than peen. : P
Guess they can add that to the filter now haha
Okay come to duels, snipe me without warning and kill me. unless im already in a duel I can prob survive your snipe and go back to kill you. Honestly I understand people have gank builds even in duels and we allow gank hits. honestly even with first hit you cant kill me I believe no single sniper has really beaten me usually they need atleast 2 to kill me
You have 2k health yes? Good luck against an unexpected 2. 8k snipe.
like many people you see 2k HP and think "ohh thats easy" actually find me in open worldsniping is so easy to avoid unless you have a army of snipers xD
Ifthir_ESO wrote: »you all gang up to flame them even if they never went out of their way to insult you
I think it's pretty obvious the NM guys are extremely good in groups. Most other guilds these days can't put up a group of 12 with all of the members being very good in PK and exceptional at group play.
It's no surprise they behave on the forums like they do in game, like piranhas.
Solo, they aren't much of a problem. In their big swarm? Big f'ing problem, sadly.
Ifthir_ESO wrote: »you all gang up to flame them even if they never went out of their way to insult you
I think it's pretty obvious the NM guys are extremely good in groups. Most other guilds these days can't put up a group of 12 with all of the members being very good in PK and exceptional at group play.
It's no surprise they behave on the forums like they do in game, like piranhas.
Solo, they aren't much of a problem. In their big swarm? Big f'ing problem, sadly.
Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »actually, as one of the AD there, he had about seven in his group at the very most, as the other DC guild there was refusing to help and was farming on the other side of the map. i have video. you were there only briefly.
That is completely false. When I was in the group, at the behest of a guildy I might add, it was nearly a full group. Premise false, rest of argument false, etc. Wanna fight about it babe?the fragility and pettiness is really unbecoming of people who'd like others to think they're good pvp players.
People's opinions are irrelevant to those of sufficient mental fortitude. What I can do and cannot do is a more or less measurable substance which simply is. What people think of it is irrelevant. Also, if the pettiness is unbecoming you might reconsider contributing to it lol.
I'm so tempted to edit this and make it grammatically correct.
Princess_Asgari wrote: »
This thread IS about me and about how amazing my stamina NB is. Get your own threads about your weak builds. Keep out of mine with your sorry 1v1 non group supportive builds.
Ifthir_ESO wrote: »you all gang up to flame them even if they never went out of their way to insult you
I think it's pretty obvious the NM guys are extremely good in groups. Most other guilds these days can't put up a group of 12 with all of the members being very good in PK and exceptional at group play.
It's no surprise they behave on the forums like they do in game, like piranhas.
Solo, they aren't much of a problem. In their big swarm? Big f'ing problem, sadly.
Tbh, I used to duel ALL the time. It's insulting to say I'm not good at a solo aspect of the game.
Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »I never mentioned your particular skill level. You seem awfully insecure about my opinion of you though lawlz. Regardless, your performance in groups was never impressive. If this is a matter of emotion for you, then speak for yourself
There were elements of TKO and Decibel sure. But it was far from a full showing. The group was never woefully outnumbered, just woefully out group-played.
I never played in any organized guild/group with you. At least for 4 Months + .. So in conclusion. There is too much salt on my bbq..
You've certainly grouped with me. Also, I find it amusing that you must use caricature to satisfy your feeble attempt to type at me.Araxleon wrote:dueling and soloing helps to train people in things you don't get from purely group play. you begin to learn the cues. not everyone wants to roll around in a train, and playstyles other than yours are not rendered invalid just because you don't play them. if you want to get into the semantics of what is "real pvp" and what is controlled and derivative, i'd suggest referencing to it by AvA instead, as anyone who plays any video game can tell you that pvp refers to an umbrella of styles which involve player versus player - group vs group OR dueling.
The fact that you think group play involves only impulse trains demonstrates your lack of knowledge on the subject. I would recommend not expressing expert opinions on purely hypothetical knowledge. Your play style is not invalid, simply irrelevant to the larger game context. If it were not, mechanics and Cyrodiil objectives would reflect it. There is quite a difference between invalidity and irrelevance.
So are the snipers and many other peoples builds irrelevant. I thought you had some points before but its clear you know nothing clearly stating that "my build" is useless in other words. when it has just as many uses or more as yours.
Ifthir_ESO wrote: »you all gang up to flame them even if they never went out of their way to insult you
I think it's pretty obvious the NM guys are extremely good in groups. Most other guilds these days can't put up a group of 12 with all of the members being very good in PK and exceptional at group play.
It's no surprise they behave on the forums like they do in game, like piranhas.
Solo, they aren't much of a problem. In their big swarm? Big f'ing problem, sadly.
Tbh, I used to duel ALL the time. It's insulting to say I'm not good at a solo aspect of the game.
Small scale and 1v1 isnt your guys thing accept that since you guys clearly avoid to even try duels or set up anykind of small scale battle with us
Atleast fixate and grunts group came to duels and tried to beat us and lost ( no offense to them) but we sorta proved our point to them that dueling makes you better in group play
Ifthir_ESO wrote: »you all gang up to flame them even if they never went out of their way to insult you
I think it's pretty obvious the NM guys are extremely good in groups. Most other guilds these days can't put up a group of 12 with all of the members being very good in PK and exceptional at group play.
It's no surprise they behave on the forums like they do in game, like piranhas.
Solo, they aren't much of a problem. In their big swarm? Big f'ing problem, sadly.
Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »I never mentioned your particular skill level. You seem awfully insecure about my opinion of you though lawlz. Regardless, your performance in groups was never impressive. If this is a matter of emotion for you, then speak for yourself
There were elements of TKO and Decibel sure. But it was far from a full showing. The group was never woefully outnumbered, just woefully out group-played.
I never played in any organized guild/group with you. At least for 4 Months + .. So in conclusion. There is too much salt on my bbq..
You've certainly grouped with me. Also, I find it amusing that you must use caricature to satisfy your feeble attempt to type at me.Araxleon wrote:dueling and soloing helps to train people in things you don't get from purely group play. you begin to learn the cues. not everyone wants to roll around in a train, and playstyles other than yours are not rendered invalid just because you don't play them. if you want to get into the semantics of what is "real pvp" and what is controlled and derivative, i'd suggest referencing to it by AvA instead, as anyone who plays any video game can tell you that pvp refers to an umbrella of styles which involve player versus player - group vs group OR dueling.
The fact that you think group play involves only impulse trains demonstrates your lack of knowledge on the subject. I would recommend not expressing expert opinions on purely hypothetical knowledge. Your play style is not invalid, simply irrelevant to the larger game context. If it were not, mechanics and Cyrodiil objectives would reflect it. There is quite a difference between invalidity and irrelevance.
So are the snipers and many other peoples builds irrelevant. I thought you had some points before but its clear you know nothing clearly stating that "my build" is useless in other words. when it has just as many uses or more as yours.
Thou shalt not erect strawman's and argue against them! I never mentioned high-burst single target specs being irrelevant; only dueling and utilizing class abilities unto that end being irrelevant. Your build is not in question; only the manner in which you use it. Come 1v12 us bro. lol
Ifthir_ESO wrote: »you all gang up to flame them even if they never went out of their way to insult you
I think it's pretty obvious the NM guys are extremely good in groups. Most other guilds these days can't put up a group of 12 with all of the members being very good in PK and exceptional at group play.
It's no surprise they behave on the forums like they do in game, like piranhas.
Solo, they aren't much of a problem. In their big swarm? Big f'ing problem, sadly.
Tbh, I used to duel ALL the time. It's insulting to say I'm not good at a solo aspect of the game.
Small scale and 1v1 isnt your guys thing accept that since you guys clearly avoid to even try duels or set up anykind of small scale battle with us
Atleast fixate and grunts group came to duels and tried to beat us and lost ( no offense to them) but we sorta proved our point to them that dueling makes you better in group play
Is this you saying you want NM to make a group and small scale you guys? If not idk what your saying.
are you taking tips from nuke? don't call me babe.
if you weren't interested in changing people's opinions, you wouldn't post in threads like these. wanting recognition for the work you put in to your play and build is perfectly reasonable. flaming anyone who breathes a word about it is not.
i find it hard to have respect for the people i fight every day when they simply come onto the forums and grandstand for hours at the expense of my guildmates.
on the other hand, unless we're simply not talking about the same day, i have three hours of footage where sypher has about seven people and you show up all of three times.
Princess_Asgari wrote: »I beaten many people. come duel me and I will beat you instead of proclaiming ganks. idc if its a sneak hit or anything. If the fight is just me and you alone
I will be the victor Im not talking trash Im just saying. Prove me wrong instead of talking ***
The problem is you'll be dead before you even realize it. The only time they aren't dead in a 1 second burst is if they are blocking or shield stacked already. On the rare occasion they may have too high of health for me to burst down but almost no one is that high.
Remind you, my NB is v12 with purple clothes and purple enchants. I don't have any doubt in my mind i cant 1 second burst you or any other player from stealth with you being unaware its coming and not holding block the entire time.
Princess_Asgari wrote: »Ive beaten soo many people in no mercy. you guys are great at larger scale PVP thats the most I will give you. Hova is a good DK but all his builds and playstyles are larger scale open world. You rely on one move its easy to avoid. I usually cant be skilled from a snipe from one person .
You know Ezerath said the same thing over and over and he was forced to eat those words.
Do not make the AWWWWW Skeet Skeet machine come out and play...
dueling and soloing helps to train people in things you don't get from purely group play. you begin to learn the cues. not everyone wants to roll around in a train, and playstyles other than yours are not rendered invalid just because you don't play them. if you want to get into the semantics of what is "real pvp" and what is controlled and derivative, i'd suggest referencing to it by AvA instead, as anyone who plays any video game can tell you that pvp refers to an umbrella of styles which involve player versus player - group vs group OR dueling.
ezareth_ESO wrote: »dueling and soloing helps to train people in things you don't get from purely group play. you begin to learn the cues. not everyone wants to roll around in a train, and playstyles other than yours are not rendered invalid just because you don't play them. if you want to get into the semantics of what is "real pvp" and what is controlled and derivative, i'd suggest referencing to it by AvA instead, as anyone who plays any video game can tell you that pvp refers to an umbrella of styles which involve player versus player - group vs group OR dueling.
Exactly. I'm twice the player I was back when all I did was group PvP. So many things I've learned that you never have a chance to learn while fighting a zerg in a ball.
I don't give much credit to dueling as there are many great duelers i see who get destroyed on the battlefield. That said arax and sypher both, two of the best duelers, are as effective or more so than any others of their class on the battlefield I've seen.
Even as Emp Arax kept me on my toes during the times we clashed and there isn't another ambush nightblade I've fought in that realm.
Ifthir_ESO wrote: »you all gang up to flame them even if they never went out of their way to insult you
I think it's pretty obvious the NM guys are extremely good in groups. Most other guilds these days can't put up a group of 12 with all of the members being very good in PK and exceptional at group play.
It's no surprise they behave on the forums like they do in game, like piranhas.
Solo, they aren't much of a problem. In their big swarm? Big f'ing problem, sadly.
Tbh, I used to duel ALL the time. It's insulting to say I'm not good at a solo aspect of the game.
Small scale and 1v1 isnt your guys thing accept that since you guys clearly avoid to even try duels or set up anykind of small scale battle with us
Atleast fixate and grunts group came to duels and tried to beat us and lost ( no offense to them) but we sorta proved our point to them that dueling makes you better in group play
Is this you saying you want NM to make a group and small scale you guys? If not idk what your saying.
Come to duels, make a team. and set up a 4v4 or 8v8.
ezareth_ESO wrote: »Bow nightblades are only useful when they work in conjunction with others unless they're ganking vampires or scrubs.