What happens if 2 teams of the same alliance are slated to play against each other?

Glantris wrote: »

Lionxoft wrote: »

What happens if 2 teams of the same alliance are slated to play against each other?

we don't put teams on same faction against each other because they just can't fight. in the event of a draw between two teams of the same faction, we'd likely just split the prize money.

Let's imagine it's a 16 team tourney with traditional single elimination and seeding is configured to not pit 1 alliance against itself in the first round. What happens if you have a draw in second or third round? Who wins the tournament if it is shut down due to competition limitation during the 2nd round of 8 teams? Do you lose the integrity of the original tourney seeding in order to continue competition only for it to possibly fail again in the semis and finals? Who decides the potentially necessary reseeding after the first round results show a lot about the teams' skill levels? If you're swapping seeds like that then you might as well just pick a team in the first round and give them the dough.

Or will this be mildly similar to how regular season division champs are decided in the NFL (American football) or how the new American collegiate football championship selection committee decides based off of record/scores/performance?

Each team in every alliance plays each of the other alliances teams once. W-L Records, scores and team deaths/kills accumulate into an alliance ranking. That alliance ranking decides which team from each alliance goes to the seeded tournament. Since there are only 3 alliances then the team/alliance with the highest calculated/accumulated rating gets a first round bye. The #2 and #3 teams play each other in the first round. The winner goes on to play the #1 in the finals. Would be cool to have some sort of fireworks trinket huh?

*If your rules aren't what were advertised earlier this month then disregard that last bit about kill/death etc but I think it's helpful to mention to say the least.

Problem with that is the tournament then becomes painfully long and if champ selection can't be decided accurately off of group/season record then it's based off of who beat whom and by how much or the performance of the team (K/D ratio or Knockdowns similar to boxing). Then it might be a good idea to pick a separate date for semi finals and finals.

Lionxoft wrote: »

Glantris wrote: »

Lionxoft wrote: »

What happens if 2 teams of the same alliance are slated to play against each other?

we don't put teams on same faction against each other because they just can't fight. in the event of a draw between two teams of the same faction, we'd likely just split the prize money.

Let's imagine it's a 16 team tourney with traditional single elimination and seeding is configured to not pit 1 alliance against itself in the first round. What happens if you have a draw in second or third round? Who wins the tournament if it is shut down due to competition limitation during the 2nd round of 8 teams? Do you lose the integrity of the original tourney seeding in order to continue competition only for it to possibly fail again in the semis and finals? Who decides the potentially necessary reseeding after the first round results show a lot about the teams' skill levels? If you're swapping seeds like that then you might as well just pick a team in the first round and give them the dough.

Or will this be mildly similar to how regular season division champs are decided in the NFL (American football) or how the new American collegiate football championship selection committee decides based off of record/scores/performance?

Each team in every alliance plays each of the other alliances teams once. W-L Records, scores and team deaths/kills accumulate into an alliance ranking. That alliance ranking decides which team from each alliance goes to the seeded tournament. Since there are only 3 alliances then the team/alliance with the highest calculated/accumulated rating gets a first round bye. The #2 and #3 teams play each other in the first round. The winner goes on to play the #1 in the finals. Would be cool to have some sort of fireworks trinket huh?

*If your rules aren't what were advertised earlier this month then disregard that last bit about kill/death etc but I think it's helpful to mention to say the least.

Problem with that is the tournament then becomes painfully long and if champ selection can't be decided accurately off of group/season record then it's based off of who beat whom and by how much or the performance of the team (K/D ratio or Knockdowns similar to boxing). Then it might be a good idea to pick a separate date for semi finals and finals.

We've successfully completed a few 1v1 tournaments so far. Our last tournament had 15 EP 8 AD and 7 DC.

When we are met with ties, we use a control group/player to serve as a barrier/filter between the teams.

It's not easy, but it's definitely worth the trouble to organize something like this.

lol, why can I just see 16 people standing on top of one another spamming impulse and bats.

Insurrektion wrote: »

You guys could run the tournament "Swiss Style."

For those unfamiliar with it, you play multiple matches against other teams. After a predetermined minimum number of matches played by each team (which should be decided based on the number of teams in attendance), the teams with the most points would enter the finals.

Just saiyan

That's a great Idea. I'll take it into account.

What if one faction has more guilds after caps**

Satiar wrote: »

Stuff like this makes me think we need to recruit more, I don't think we can field 8 regulars. Maybe next time, but I will be watching the proceedings with great interest.

Much the same boat. Vice had 8 regulars a month ago, but now we can barely scrape up two or three. Yeah, even a small guild like ours lost half our members.

The state of PvP is really showing through.

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

Can 1 person enter himself as a team if he pays the full 40K?

Also is there a time limit on the fights before a Draw is declared? ( =

Teams don't have to have the full 8 players if they pay the 40k, but I'll let you know that the game type will probably be confined in a certain area, maybe a village/town/pit. There certainly is room for maneuvering and kiting, but not enough room for one person to survive and kill an elite 8 man group.

The time limit before a tie is called is 5 minutes with 0 deaths happening in that five minutes. If we feel like the fight is making progress and people are slowly dying, we will let it run.

This does sound fun as hell - time to check with the guildies in Venatus.

Honestly things like this are good for the game. I think it would help cultivate some multi-alliance respect and potential "friendships" and that can only be good for ALL of us in this game we hope to play for years. Now I'm not saying foes don't respect one another in Alliance War but it might be one more opportunity to get to know one another as players not just opponents. Not saying we can all hang out with AOE Barbecue for bacon and ribs at Alessia or Sej but being able to play against one another competitively for fun where we aren't focused on the campaign or AP would be awesome.

Satiar wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

Stuff like this makes me think we need to recruit more, I don't think we can field 8 regulars. Maybe next time, but I will be watching the proceedings with great interest.

Much the same boat. Vice had 8 regulars a month ago, but now we can barely scrape up two or three. Yeah, even a small guild like ours lost half our members.

The state of PvP is really showing through.

Well ours isn't like that, we're small group of friends and recruit selectively. Hard to find people who enjoy our play style, even had to level our own Templar for 4v4 stuff. But this makes me want to try harder on the recruitment side of things.

So are we, eight of us came together from another game, we still use the same TS we always had, and we picked up a few new people from this game when we arrived.

Some of us from the original eight quit out of frustration with the server performance and constant bugs/crashes. I am the only regular of the original group still playing daily, the others are off playing other games now or might log in once a week. Talk to each other on TS all the time, but im the holdout to move to another game, still trying to see if ZOS can figure it out =/

Jules wrote: »

Probably a silly question, but it'll be streamed right?

Not a silly question at all. With a tournament this big, it's very easy for a player who feels like ruining it for everyone else to watch the stream and find the spots we are having our matches.

We are improvising though by setting matches on different campaigns in different spots. The stream will have a 15 Minute delay and will only display the matches when they begin, not while we are setting them up. During the down time. We will be showing previous matches, and discuss upcoming match ups / tactics teams might be using.

It will be live streamed on Twitch.tv/SypherPK

FluffiestOne wrote: »

Would LoM be allowed to participate, or are you afraid we will kill all your duelers?

I would love for you guys to participate.

Maybe you can see the work and effort we put in to organize events like this and out of appreciation for what we do you will stop attacking outnumbered and off guard duelers with an organized guild.

Registration opens tomorrow! I'll make an announcement when it does open.

FluffiestOne wrote: »

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

FluffiestOne wrote: »

Would LoM be allowed to participate, or are you afraid we will kill all your duelers?

I would love for you guys to participate.

Maybe you can see the work and effort we put in to organize events like this and out of appreciation for what we do you will stop attacking outnumbered and off guard duelers with an organized guild.

Registration opens tomorrow! I'll make an announcement when it does open.

Tomorrow... so we should probably stop the #AzuraTakeover (Spoiler alert, I will be emperor of azura )

It's only registration. The tournament isn't until after the 1.5 update comes into the game.

potential entrants should note that they should not expect to have their registrations accepted if they continually go out of their way to disrupt duels. thanks.