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Spell Crafting Excitement
Gorthax
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I know many have probably read about it or seen the video on it. This is just an update for those who havent. I am so excited for this!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYbl5B8R9-E#t=3173
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Edited by Gorthax on October 24, 2014 1:35AM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYbl5B8R9-E#t=3173time stamped at spellcrafting
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Drazhar14✭✭✭✭✭I just want the convert magic to stamina spell. That's about it. Searching for the runes might be cool also, as long as it isn't a grind.1 -
whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭How about making a Green Assassin's Blood, a Nightblade heal, that is exactly like a DK's Green Dragon Blood. That's one of the things I want..Edited by whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO on October 23, 2014 4:45PMSigned, Kotaro Atani.PS5 NAVR16/ CP 160 Khajiit Nightblade of the Aldmeri Dominion, Guildmaster and Assassin of the Queen's Hand guild on NA PC. PvP Officer in the WOLF guild on NA PS5, and of course Master Thief. Currently 3600 CP out of 3600 CP on NA PS5. Currently 810 CP on NA PC (used for PTS testing purposes only). On PS5 I am also a Master Crafter, all traits done and learned, Jewelry crafting done. all Motifs learned on PS5 except for maybe two-three Motifs. All Companions are Max level as are their Skills.Warrior, Lover, Thief.... Nightblade. Aldmeri Dominion For Life! For the Queen!! Go Dominion or go home ! "I have no hatred for the races of Man, but they are young. Like all children, they are driven by emotion. They lack the wisdom that comes with age. I would sooner place an Altmer infant on the Ruby Throne than surrender Tamriel to their capricious whims. The Altmer, the Bosmer and the Khajiit share the common traits of intelligence, patience and reason. We do not seek riches or plunder. Domination is not our goal, nor is the acclamation of power for its own sake. Today we make our stand. Today we take back the Ruby Throne, which is ours by ancient right and the blessings of the Divines. Stand with us." ―Your Queen Commands, Ayrenn Arana Aldmeri.(All 18 characters are AD only! This one is a AD Loyalist)Member of ESO Since January 29, 2014, started early Access 3/30/14 on PC, currently subbed on NA PS5 and on NA PC. Note- I only use PC for PTS testing purposes, the PS5 is my dedicated Game Platform.Note- for those that don't know how to say Kotaro Atani it's "Ko tar row Ah ta ni" (Ko with a Oh sound, tar which sounds like the sticky black tar stuff, row like rowing a boat, Ah with a AHHHH sound, Ta with a Tahhh sound, Neeee which sounds like knee)"The blowing sands of time wipe clean the footprints of the past...""Moonsugar may be the key to paradise, but it is through a false door...""A perfect society is always elsewhere..."- Unknown book of Khajiiti proverbs.9 -
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✭granted it wouldnt be EXACTLY like it, but restoration WILL be part of the spellcrafting. So I am sure you could make something like it2 -
ExiledKhallisi✭✭✭✭✭Spellcrafting = Death of Stamina builds>>>>>>>>(DC)Guild Master of Biestas 250+ Active Members<<<<<<<<||||||Vr14 Sorc: Darkened Soul vr14 Templar: Tiffaney||||||“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
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Oughash✭✭✭✭ExiledKhallisi wrote: »Spellcrafting = Death of Stamina builds
Very true. UNLESS they figure out that there should be an option (morph, extra spell tomb to find, whatever) to create stamina-based spells.1 -
Gorthax✭✭✭✭✭
✭stamina abilities are getting their own version (it sounds like) and since stamina based moves are mostly weapons (some spells too from fighters guild etc) it would be sweet to see weapon based tablets too. Training scrolls that the fighters guild heard about and you go copy.
Edited by Gorthax on October 24, 2014 1:56AM1 -
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✭✭✭I wonder when we will learn about spellcrafting. Perhaps we will get lucky and it will be released with 1.6 or 1.7.0 -
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✭✭✭whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »How about making a Green Assassin's Blood, a Nightblade heal, that is exactly like a DK's Green Dragon Blood. That's one of the things I want..
I would settle for a Shadow Blink. It's like BE only without damage and stun, just a fast stealthy effective escape. That is the only thing I ever wanted from cloak.NBs are technically able to do this move already also.
I am a bit skeptical about Spellcrafting, I just don't think it can possibly be made as diverse as needed for it to be amazing. I expect something like 20 spells with small variations in power but not in utility.Of course it will be advertised as unlimited possibilities though.Edited by PBpsy on October 23, 2014 6:41PMESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)6 -
Gorthax✭✭✭✭✭
✭did you not see the alteration spell they showed off? Muffle? Almost eliminates the detection radius. I think it will be more diverse than what people want to believe. Granted they will do a lot of fine tuning for it :P because we as players will find ways to break it ^_~
I cant wait to have a hotbar full of summons! I just hope they are strong enough to be competative.1 -
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✭✭I hate that there is so much amazing content already in the game an coming through future updates, while secondary parts such as inventory management or grouping are still extremely flawed.
I'm really looking forward to spellcrafting, the champion system and justice system but I'd like to see some improvements on all the immersion-breaking issues.Wololo.4 -
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✭whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »How about making a Green Assassin's Blood, a Nightblade heal, that is exactly like a DK's Green Dragon Blood. That's one of the things I want..
I would settle for a Shadow Blink. It's like BE only without damage and stun, just a fast stealthy effective escape. That is the only thing I ever wanted from cloak.NBs are technically able to do this move already also.
They would probably Nerf it though just like they are gonna do with Sneak Damage in PvP...
They did say they will have a Magicka to Stamina conversion spell though..
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briandivisionb16_ESO✭✭✭✭In Daggerfall and some other TES games, spellcrafting meant you could change the magnitude of the spell at extra magicka cost.
E.G. range, damage, duration.. could all be changed at the tweak of a button.
It was amazing.
I hope spellcrafting is this amazing; and not just a preset of 50~ different spells.
It'll still be awesome regardless; but I'm hoping it has depth.If your group is bigger than 6 members gain 75% damage reduction.
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✭Spellcrafting is by far the update I am most excited for, I am sure it is a long way coming though.
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✭✭✭✭✭I'm really looking forward to this. The grind to find all the stones, not so much.Silivren (Silly) Thalionwen | Altmer Templar | Magicka | 9-Trait Master Crafter/Jeweler | Master Angler | PVE Main - Killed by U35
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Ragefist✭✭✭✭briandivisionb16_ESO wrote: »In Daggerfall and some other TES games, spellcrafting meant you could change the magnitude of the spell at extra magicka cost.
E.G. range, damage, duration.. could all be changed at the tweak of a button.
It was amazing.
I hope spellcrafting is this amazing; and not just a preset of 50~ different spells.
It'll still be awesome regardless; but I'm hoping it has depth.
It actually is a preset of 50 different spells with some 6 customization options a way to alter cost/power slightly
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GnatB✭✭✭✭Wow, that's very underwhelming. You can't really use spell craft to "combine" spell effects like you could in actual TES games.
i.e. make a spell that buffs crit, armor, and weapon damage. Or a spell that does Poison & Fire damage.
Reads like a spell is limited to 1 effect & mods, as opposed to any number of effects, with each effect getting it's own mods.Achievements Suck1 -
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✭not true because stamina AND weapon abilities are getting their own version.
Wait what? Where'd you hear that?Shendell De'Gull - V14 Vampire Nightblade
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✭Edited, my apologies @starkerealm. @GnatB we don't know all the different spells or schools yet. Since its not complete yet I am sure they are open to ideas. @ZOS_GinaBruno think you can ask for a little info about this? Or could you elaborate if you know the answer please?
"i.e. make a spell that buffs crit, armor, and weapon damage. Or a spell that does Poison & Fire damage.
Reads like a spell is limited to 1 effect & mods, as opposed to any number of effects, with each effect getting it's own mods" quote didn't work for some reason.
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it sure sounds like they are doing a stamina version, and since majority of stamina abilities are weapon abilities, it appeared safe to assume. At 1:47:00 he gets asked a questionWraithAzraiel wrote: »
And says you can make an ability which converts magicka to stamina. So I'm guessing it will be a nice glimpse into the future
editing post above to reflect my assumption and pose an idea
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✭✭✭✭✭Wow, that's very underwhelming. You can't really use spell craft to "combine" spell effects like you could in actual TES games.
i.e. make a spell that buffs crit, armor, and weapon damage. Or a spell that does Poison & Fire damage.
Reads like a spell is limited to 1 effect & mods, as opposed to any number of effects, with each effect getting it's own mods.
It looks like you can code any spell to be either have a reduced cost, be an AOE, an Ultimate, a toggle, or have a cast time, probably to boost it's power.
For spell effects like fire, I'd be willing to bet that the toggle will work as weapon buff. For stuff like restoration, I suspect the toggle will just be an attribute buff while active, but... *shrugs*
With Ultimates, I expect the spell is basically unrecognizable, like a firestorm or something.
Now... it is possible we'd get to just keep adding crap together on those modifiers... eventually. But, it doesn't sound like that's an element in the base release. It's also possible that we'd get the ability to apply multiple modifiers to a spell via a perk in the spellcrafting tree, but I'm just guessing now.
The material you make the tablet out of sounds like it'll be a standard White -> Green -> Blue -> Purple -> Gold system.3 -
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✭Aye that is what it sounds like. How cool would it be to combine spells ^_^ we can dream 0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭With toggles, you'll kind of be able to combine spells. At least some of them.
I'll admit, I am a little underwhelmed, I think I was hoping for something more like Magicka's structure, where you'd just pull various spell elements and slap them together to get a new determinant skill, but that wouldn't be very Elder Scrolls-esque.2 -
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✭✭whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »How about making a Green Assassin's Blood, a Nightblade heal, that is exactly like a DK's Green Dragon Blood. That's one of the things I want..
That would be nice, but giving my Nightblade/Sorceror and equivalent to my Templar's Biting jabs would be nice too.People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
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✭✭god could you imagine DK's running around with blazing shield or teleport >_>
Yes please
(I play all the classes so no problem for me)People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
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✭I can see it now: everyone running around spamming a Green Dragon Blood-like spell and a Bolt Escape-like spell -_-
I hope that doesn't happen.I'm a man of few words. Any questions?NA/PC server1 -
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✭✭Lord_Draevan wrote: »I can see it now: everyone running around spamming a Green Dragon Blood-like spell and a Bolt Escape-like spell -_-
I hope that doesn't happen.
Add the Templars Biting Jabs to that list and we have a set that all four class can jam with.
To be serious though I imagine the spellcraft abilities will be high magicka cost for less output (damage/healing/distance for teleport).People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
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