The Cape Or The Cloak Idea

Gwsy · October 2014

Here i bring to all of you a very good idea (if not already posted), the capes are very much important in a mmorpg game, especially if we are talking about the elder scrolls online, i personally think is a good idea, the cape or the cloak also will bring its own statistics, here i leave a picture edited by me as a sample and example.

http://i61.tinypic.com/zslrw8.png

ers101284b14_ESO · October 2014

Look here, This is a Deaduhorsus Beatus! Lets watch as he beats the corpse of this dead horse. Now these peculiar animals are not content enough to just kill a horse but they must continually beat it for months sometimes even years on end. They like to sink their teeth into the horses throat "Blam!" with such force that it kills the horse instantly. They then will continue to flail about smashing the horse over and over. Even though from the looks of it the horse has in fact been dead for a good six months this creature just continues to beat its lifeless body. Crikey these are some vicious creatures. Uh-Oh I think it spotted us, we are just going to back away slowly and let it get back to beating the dead horse.

That was exciting "WOOOOO!"

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dharbert · October 2014

dharbert · October 2014

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Gidorick · October 2014

Are cloaks lore friendly? I don't recall there being cloaks in any TES game before...

CoolsHisHands · October 2014

AshySamurai · October 2014

Also, it's hard to do because this game don't have PhysX support.

EQBallzz · October 2014

They have already said no to cloaks/capes because rendering them in PvP would cause serious performance issues. I don't see why they can't implement some kind of cape culling when X number of people are in an area or something but that's their story and they're sticking to it.

Feel free to continue with your horse beating.

Gidorick · October 2014

Honestly... the patronizing "dead horse" remarks are more annoying than any "yet-another" post.

If you don't have something constructive to add, it's best not to add anything at all.

That being said... has anyone ever addressed the use of cloaks in Tamriel? It's not something I've seen in past games... not in any great use that is.

bedlom · October 2014

A vampire lord outfit in skyrim had a cape.

HomerSamson · October 2014

If this was a poll I would have voted for 'don't care'

Drazhar14 · October 2014

It's not dead until players stop talking about it. If people are still talking about it, there is still demand. I know they said capes would not work with the amount of detail needed to go into them (performance hits, yadadada), but I would like to see capes put into the game (I'm sure my gaming rig would still run fine).

Syntse · October 2014

Gwsy wrote: »

Here i bring to all of you a very good idea (if not already posted),

Searched cape

WraithAzraiel · October 2014

They already said they're not going to be implementing capes and cloaks until they can figure how to render them without them A) looking like ass and 2) becoming a latency problem due to independent movement.

Daenerys · October 2014

keep beating this horse until they implement them. I mean ffs they made a trailer featuring some of the most badass capes I've ever seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MySC13H_2cE

Drazhar14 · October 2014

Daenerys wrote: »

keep beating this horse until they implement them. I mean ffs they made a trailer featuring some of the most badass capes I've ever seen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MySC13H_2cE

The trailer also features a battle more epic than any fight you can have in ESO. If the game was like the trailer... on second thought, better not start dreaming. I'll get disappointed.

Razour · October 2014

Thanks for posting a picture of a cloak OP - I think that should help seal the deal!

DaniAngione · October 2014

Gidorick wrote: »

Are cloaks lore friendly? I don't recall there being cloaks in any TES game before...

Yes, they are. The cloaks/capes are a fairly obvious invention for any people that is able to work with textiles and need some sort of protection from the cold/rain/sandstorms/whatever.

Both Arena and Daggerfall featured capes and cloaks on some characters:

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Cloaks and Capes "disappeared" from most games on the "early days of fully 3D rendering" because it was too difficult to make a good looking cape. Just look at how many games from these "early" days gave up on cloaks; Morrowind, Neverwinter Nights; Dungeon Siege...

The ones who tried made absolutely ugly capes, like modded NWN capes, WoW capes, etc...

Due to 'habit' and more technological complications, the following Elder Scrolls games had no capes as well, but they were always featured on artworks and such from the series...

So, please... I understand the graphical and stability issues that proper capes would bring. But don't come with the lore argument because saying that one of the most common pieces of clothing throughout History and different places of the world wouldn't be lore-friendly on a setting that draws a lot from our own world is simply absurd.

Other than that, keep beating the horse, mates. I do want to see well made, realistic, linen/fur cloaks in the game one day :disagree:

Gidorick · October 2014

Thanks for the education @DaniAngione‌ !

DaniAngione wrote: »

But don't come with the lore argument because saying that one of the most common pieces of clothing throughout History and different places of the world wouldn't be lore-friendly on a setting that draws a lot from our own world is simply absurd.

This is a fair point... but using our own world's developments as a rationalization doesn't really make sense to me. Just look how long the people of Tamriel have been in their pre-industrial medieval era. The fact that the sprite based TES games had cloaks is enough to justify cloaks in ESO, if it's ever something they can work out how to do.

Either way, you're right. The "not lore-friendly" excuse is completely bunk.

TehMagnus · October 2014

Why are they important (except to Role players?).

ZOS has acknowledged your wish for capes but hasn't implemented it yet since it takes skill (and they've proven they don't have much of that) to make capes look nice.

And it would make PVP even laggier according to them because of the resources needed to render the capes. :disagree:

killedbyping · October 2014

Gwsy wrote: »

Here i bring to all of you a very good idea (if not already posted), the capes are very much important in a mmorpg game, especially if we are talking about the elder scrolls online, i personally think is a good idea, the cape also will bring its own statistics, here i leave a picture edited by me as a sample and example

http://i61.tinypic.com/zslrw8.png

I didnt saw much capes in Elder Scroll series

P.S. But i agree, i just doent feel myself as a superhero with out a cape

Ah, old days in Ultima Online, there was some respect for capes

Syntse · October 2014

This

Or no capes.

sirston · October 2014

well anything is possible with a lot of people talking about.

KriHavok · October 2014

Well, there WERE capes present in the Official Gameplay Trailer, shown in the below screenshots:

http://imgur.com/kC9lUZs

http://imgur.com/ySFsX2A

They're also at 2:26 and 9:00 in the actual YouTube video if you are interested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlEipFtHw7o

So it's not like ZoS disregarded it, they perhaps implemented it at first but got feedback that players didn't like it, or the capes were too faulty or may even be planned to come out in future content. I would say not to ignore the capes for the time being and wait for/if a ZoS employee talks about it in the future.

Cazic · October 2014

It's gotta be a performance thing.. I remember WoW having capes and cloaks, but its graphic quality and style lets it get away with them. ESO has a more realistic look. It must be a lot more difficult to render a bunch of real looking capes versus a bunch of stiff cartoony ones.

Having said that, I think capes are wicked and would love to see them in the game

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Maybe we could get a rare costume or two that have capes. That way they're attainable but not too common.

Aesthier · October 2014

I would love to see "customizable" capes put into ESO.

My rig can handle it so I have no problems with that.

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Nijjion · October 2014

CoolsHisHands wrote: »

What about cloaks?

Not many mmos have capes but cloaks however are the norm.

WraithAzraiel · October 2014

It was touched on at the Guild Summit. It is a performance issue.

Gwsy · October 2014

If truly the company wants to create a really good game then must be implement the capes or cloaks, the capes or cloaks was part of the medieval age and everybody knows that, many mmorpg games like this have good graphics and have capes or cloaks, so what is the excuses?, if do not strive to create a very good game then never will, i know very well this company has the potential, only be to know to use it.

Gidorick · October 2014

KriHavok wrote: »

Well, there WERE capes present in the Official Gameplay Trailer, shown in the below screenshots:

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So it's not like ZoS disregarded it, they perhaps implemented it at first but got feedback that players didn't like it, or the capes were too faulty or may even be planned to come out in future content. I would say not to ignore the capes for the time being and wait for/if a ZoS employee talks about it in the future.

Those capes looked kind of janky to be honest.

Jitterbug · October 2014

EQBallzz wrote: »

They have already said no to cloaks/capes because rendering them in PvP would cause serious performance issues. I don't see why they can't implement some kind of cape culling when X number of people are in an area or something but that's their story and they're sticking to it.

Feel free to continue with your horse beating.

Yes, lets keep pvp performance issue free