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"Play as you want" vs Forced Ignorance and Forced immersion.

  • Tandor
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    magnusnet wrote: »
    Dear Zenimax,


    Wykkyd's Framework tools have over 1 000 000 downloads.
    FTC has around 600 000 downloads.

    Number of downloads is NOT an indication of the number of people using the addon. It is only an indicative of the number of people that have downloaded the addon, it doesn't give you the numbers for people who use it vs. the people who tried it, hated it, and promptly deleted it. Doesn't tell you anything about what those potential users have actually "turned on" within the addon itself. It doesn't differentiate between trial users and everyday hardcore users.

    So sorry, download numbers for a third party addon isn't a well reasoned argument to demand a change to the UI.

    On the contrary. If a lot of people downloaded an addon that did all the things you want the default UI to do but then - in your own words - tried it, hated it, and promptly deleted it, then that tells us that it would be a waste of scarce developer resources putting those same features into the default UI.
  • Gix
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    What I don't understand is why are people so bent on the idea of seeing how much damage he or she deals. If seeing these numbers is what makes you enjoy this game, well, maybe... just MAYBE you're playing the wrong game.

    You're talking about "optional", we're talking about "principle". They give you the option of modding and you're still not satisfied "well updates break mods"... well, you got choices now, don't you?

    How much damage does Mario deal to Koopalings? Who gives a !@#$, just jump on them!
  • MasterSpatula
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    For a while, I really thought ESO would be the one game not ruined by min/maxers, but I see they're determined to try.
    "A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle
  • GwaynLoki
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    For a while, I really thought ESO would be the one game not ruined by min/maxers, but I see they're determined to try.

    Knowing when the buffs or debuffs on your char expire has nothing to do with min/maxing. It's about being able to make an educated choice. Is that debuff still on me? Do I need to cleanse it? I see my char burning despite having cleansed that before - is it due to lag or is the debuff still there? Your current UI isn't even able to make a difference between a dmg shield like healing ward and an abilitiy like Absorb Magic - your health bar shows the same animation. Addons aren't almighty, actually, they are very limited and the one I am using for buff tracking has been bugging out regularly. There aren't that many of them out there, so my choices are limited.

    Being able to track debuffs on your allies as a healer - is this really asking too much? Is that really min-maxing? Is it really too much to ask Zeni to provide us with this basic information the majority of modern MMO's possess? You are acting like we are some kind of militants asking for extreme change. The way I see it, we are simply asking for something that is the norm in any other game. (Dmg meter addons do already exist if that's your fear. I, frankly don't care about those, I am not choosing my build solely by how much dps it can do. Nor do I think that Zeni should add any form of dmg meter of their own.)
  • TehMagnus
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    If ZOS didn't want min/maxers, if they didn't want people carrying about optimization, they shouldn't have put leaderboards nor released end game grouped PVE content and 90% of us would have left a long time ago.

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