Dear AD of Haderus

Asgari · October 2014

Rylana wrote: »

So, glademist was.... fun.

I was like the only person that showed up XD

I was there ... 2v30+ ... Why did AD need to make multiple breaches and not jump on flags? was 2 of us sooo much trouble that AD needed to pour oils from the top floor to wipe the NPC?

AD is by far the worst PvP faction.

Rylana · October 2014

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

So, glademist was.... fun.

I was like the only person that showed up XD

I was there ... 2v30+ ... Why did AD need to make multiple breaches and not jump on flags? was 2 of us sooo much trouble that AD needed to pour oils from the top floor to wipe the NPC?

AD is by far the worst PvP faction.

Nah nah, i made that post when DC took glade, I was the only defender inside.

Asgari · October 2014

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »

We'd take a single keep and despite owning the entire map, both factions would bring triple the players we had to assault that keep together.

The strong and the weak.

Oh sweet mother of irony. A classic case of the Halo Effect. Eyes are turned blind to the precise thing one's own does when it is the others that do it. Also, you seem to think that you are strong. I assure you, the only damage you ever actually did as an emperor was us reminding people in voice chat, "Don't chase him, he's useless."

You were fully compliant to have a buff server and offered meager protest at best. But the moment there is competitive pvp, involving an AD faction that still outnumbers DC + EP and you are #rekt by 20 - 25 DC versus your typical banana hordes, you are utterly filled with protest.

You insist something about losing respect for us. This is laughable. Is a king concerned with the opinion of bacterium? (Spoiler: we don't care what you think .)

For one I was talking about Volendrung where despite being consistently outnumbered and teamed up on by both DC and EP we owned the map until they brought in zergs of players from other players on both DC and EP. Short of nightcapping a keep while we slept they literally couldn't take a thing from us without calling in the reserves from off campaign.

I played the next two campaigns and finished each of them rank#2 while playing mostly solo with no buff server yet I found that the organized groups I was fighting were all coming from other campaigns with buff servers. What got me to switch wasn't the buffs, it was the bonus 15% AP that I completely forgot about that by the time I homed on Haderus cost me roughly 3 million total AP (at some point that changed to 10% recently I think). I wasn't going to continue to gimp myself and handicap myself in PvP because zenimax couldn't fix this concept until 1.5.

I'm not fully "compliant" with buff servers and I was glad EP took Azura's for EP so all the factions would have the option to use one. The Ironic thing is I only started playing on Haderus fully because PvP was unplayable on Thornblade and the local EP did nothing but brag (undeservedly) about how good they were on these forums for farming pugs. Since I've started playing fully more and more people have homed here from all sides and that is a good thing as killing people behind their gate doesn't sit well with me and I enjoy being the underdog more than the overachiever.

I fully Welcome Hyjinx and NM to abandon their own buff servers and to fight on Haderus but I know they wont because it has always been about the AP farm to them and they know they're fighting people at a disadvantage. For me it is about PvP and that means putting myself in situations that actually try my skill which ends with me being outnumbered. That's why you don't find me in zerg coordinated groups farming pugs and PvErs while bragging about how good I am because I killed some guys who don't stand a chance. I've tried that and it is boring as hell and it isn't PVP in my book.

All in all you missed what I said. Having Hijinx and NM coordinate together against a smaller force of AD (We were outnumbered at Roebeck and I have video of the entire attack to show that) isn't what I'd call "competitive PvP". I wasn't protesting at all, merely speaking with pride and perhaps a bit of amusement that it took so many of you to take a keep from a "useless" emp and a bunch of carebears.

You also mistook my losing respect for NM. I've never had any respect for NM or any guild that harbors known exploiters. I only grew to respect the one player I've spoken with who wasn't so full of himself that he needed to insult people with tells because he couldn't kill them. That respect was subsequently lost the moment that player decided to log on his alt and steal a scroll for a campaign he cared nothing for.

Just blink away from this thread while all of your AD peasants perish. I lost my respect for you when i had to /sitchair and you wouldn't attack me and ran away.

Asgari · October 2014

Rylana wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

So, glademist was.... fun.

I was like the only person that showed up XD

I was there ... 2v30+ ... Why did AD need to make multiple breaches and not jump on flags? was 2 of us sooo much trouble that AD needed to pour oils from the top floor to wipe the NPC?

AD is by far the worst PvP faction.

Nah nah, i made that post when DC took glade, I was the only defender inside.

It was like 5 of us I think. Then after we took it it was just me and one other capping the resources back and once I got to the last one which was lumber mill the AD zerg ball showed up. Was easily 50 of them plus the Emp. All in all I made enough AP from AD today and it's only going to get more intense for you over the next week now that it's my home.

Ezareth · October 2014

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Just blink away from this thread while all of your AD peasants perish. I lost my respect for you when i had to /sitchair and you wouldn't attack me and ran away.

You mean I wouldn't fight you and your templar healbot 2 v 1? I'd have done so and won easily were I still emp but how do you propose a Sorc kills a DK that spams Harness magicka and Reflective scales and a templar that spams blazing shield and harness magicka both of which have power heals at the same time? Killing either of you 1 v 1 would have taken me 5 minutes or possibly more, killing both of you while letting you both beat on me isn't possible. I tried to engage each of you singly and the other one would jump in. I tried kiting you both for a bit and you kept the heals and shields up so I simply disengaged as I would any group or player that I have no chance of killing...and I crashed right after I did that so it is a good thing because I hate having to log into cyrodiil twice every time I crash.

It is always amusing this talk of running away by people who cry about it while they are backed by others who protect them. I choose battles I can win, that's why I rarely die.

I've never ran from any single player in my 75+ /played days in Cyrodiil unless it was of strategic importance like running a scroll, placing a camp etc.

Aoe_Barbecue · October 2014

You also mistook my losing respect for NM. I've never had any respect for NM or any guild that harbors known exploiters. I only grew to respect the one player I've spoken with who wasn't so full of himself that he needed to insult people with tells because he couldn't kill them. That respect was subsequently lost the moment that player decided to log on his alt and steal a scroll for a campaign he cared nothing for.

The opinions of humans -- particularly those of little influence -- are only so much biochemical energy whizzing around through one's skull. It's not worth a cent or a crumb, let alone my consideration. Whether you are positively predisposed to me or anyone also means nothing to me, so your expression of its loss is only worth a chuckle. If AD decides to spoil our fun by logging their alts to run scrolls unprovoked I will log on to mine and rectify the wrong. The amount of zone chat rage is also particularly amusing.

FluffiestOne · October 2014

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Just blink away from this thread while all of your AD peasants perish. I lost my respect for you when i had to /sitchair and you wouldn't attack me and ran away.

You mean I wouldn't fight you and your templar healbot 2 v 1? I'd have done so and won easily were I still emp but how do you propose a Sorc kills a DK that spams Harness magicka and Reflective scales and a templar that spams blazing shield and harness magicka both of which have power heals at the same time? Killing either of you 1 v 1 would have taken me 5 minutes or possibly more, killing both of you while letting you both beat on me isn't possible. I tried to engage each of you singly and the other one would jump in. I tried kiting you both for a bit and you kept the heals and shields up so I simply disengaged as I would any group or player that I have no chance of killing...and I crashed right after I did that so it is a good thing because I hate having to log into cyrodiil twice every time I crash.

It is always amusing this talk of running away by people who cry about it while they are backed by others who protect them. I choose battles I can win, that's why I rarely die.

I've never ran from any single player in my 75+ /played days in Cyrodiil unless it was of strategic importance like running a scroll, placing a camp etc.

BS, I killed 5 of your friends then started working you down but you ran away.

Ezareth · October 2014

Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »

You also mistook my losing respect for NM. I've never had any respect for NM or any guild that harbors known exploiters. I only grew to respect the one player I've spoken with who wasn't so full of himself that he needed to insult people with tells because he couldn't kill them. That respect was subsequently lost the moment that player decided to log on his alt and steal a scroll for a campaign he cared nothing for.

The opinions of humans -- particularly those of little influence -- are only so much biochemical energy whizzing around through one's skull. It's not worth a cent or a crumb, let alone my consideration. If AD decides to spoil our fun by logging their alts to run scrolls unprovoked I will log on to mine and rectify the wrong. The amount of zone chat rage is also particularly amusing.

I wasn't aware any of us have any influence over others but perhaps some people are as such. I sure as hell don't care about the opinions of others but I do care that the image I project in the game is one of honesty, sportsmanship and integrity much the same as I project in life.

I too believe in justice yet two wrongs never make a right. This is why I didn't resort to exploiting caltrops and refused to be in a guild that did despite the fact it was used constantly against us and cost us point lead in the first campaign. This is why I've never traded emperors or colluded with the enemy. When I see people on my side placing camps behind gates I inform the leadership of the opposing side of location so they can burn them. When someone says that "X" person is a spy for our side, don't kill them, that person becomes my primary target if I see them. When someone gives me intel from one of the guilds they are in where they are planning a particular raid against my side I tell the person to not tell me of such things again and force myself to act as if I didn't have that knowledge. You can guarantee that if a DC scroll carrier was running by me to deliver a scroll back to us that was earned fairly by the other team that I would kill him the moment I could.

I don't do it for any thanks or to earn the respect of anyone and I don't expect everyone to conform to my ideology (although this game would be much more enjoyable were it so), but I always give respect where it is earned and seek to surround myself with people of like integrity. Maybe there are other members of NM with such characteristics but I've yet to interact with one out of the dozen or so who have messaged me as of yet.

Theoldguy · October 2014

FluffiestOne wrote: »

Theoldguy wrote: »

FluffiestOne wrote: »

As to all the people calling me a known cheater, I invite you to look at my play style, my emperor DK skills are rusty, at best. Compare me to Hova, Aoe Barb, or Jones and you will see I'm not par at the moment. In time that my change, but plz. Don't make stuff up. I am just The Lord of Death and Domination, and you guys are my peasants. All hail Lord Fixate, me. Fixate Fur Fuhrer.

All hail Lord Fixate lord of Impulse & Batswarm . sorry didn't see any DK skills to judge if rusty or not.

You didn't see my wings flapping? It was probably the culling. #BlameZenimax

Yes i saw them made me use curse & res staff all night, not so much fun $:\$

Ezareth · October 2014

FluffiestOne wrote: »

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Just blink away from this thread while all of your AD peasants perish. I lost my respect for you when i had to /sitchair and you wouldn't attack me and ran away.

You mean I wouldn't fight you and your templar healbot 2 v 1? I'd have done so and won easily were I still emp but how do you propose a Sorc kills a DK that spams Harness magicka and Reflective scales and a templar that spams blazing shield and harness magicka both of which have power heals at the same time? Killing either of you 1 v 1 would have taken me 5 minutes or possibly more, killing both of you while letting you both beat on me isn't possible. I tried to engage each of you singly and the other one would jump in. I tried kiting you both for a bit and you kept the heals and shields up so I simply disengaged as I would any group or player that I have no chance of killing...and I crashed right after I did that so it is a good thing because I hate having to log into cyrodiil twice every time I crash.

It is always amusing this talk of running away by people who cry about it while they are backed by others who protect them. I choose battles I can win, that's why I rarely die.

I've never ran from any single player in my 75+ /played days in Cyrodiil unless it was of strategic importance like running a scroll, placing a camp etc.

BS, I killed 5 of your friends then started working you down but you ran away.

Now that's rich. The next video I have coming out will show the truth of that. I'm not sure which friends you're talking about but I'd take me and my templar against you as as emperor any day of the week.

If you want to call using the mobility of my class to kite you around until your little wings fold up behind you "running away" then so be it. I'm sure as hell not tanking an Emperor at melee range and if you aren't emperor and I'm not kiting you around then I don't really think you do enough damage to worry about it. I'm pretty sure I'd never resort to kiting you around unless I had no resources at the start of the fight and needed time to replenish them. Even when you were emperor you rarely did damage to me while solo as you couldn't pierce my shields and you had no single target abilities to speak of. I'd only die to you when your allies/NPCs beamed me, lethal arrowed me etc while you bat-swarmed/impulse spammed and even it only happened twice while you were emperor. Compare that to the roughly 30 times I got the killing blow on you instead. Other than the day I was playing around with Impulse I don't know that I've died 30 times total as Emperor.

FluffiestOne · October 2014

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

FluffiestOne wrote: »

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Just blink away from this thread while all of your AD peasants perish. I lost my respect for you when i had to /sitchair and you wouldn't attack me and ran away.

You mean I wouldn't fight you and your templar healbot 2 v 1? I'd have done so and won easily were I still emp but how do you propose a Sorc kills a DK that spams Harness magicka and Reflective scales and a templar that spams blazing shield and harness magicka both of which have power heals at the same time? Killing either of you 1 v 1 would have taken me 5 minutes or possibly more, killing both of you while letting you both beat on me isn't possible. I tried to engage each of you singly and the other one would jump in. I tried kiting you both for a bit and you kept the heals and shields up so I simply disengaged as I would any group or player that I have no chance of killing...and I crashed right after I did that so it is a good thing because I hate having to log into cyrodiil twice every time I crash.

It is always amusing this talk of running away by people who cry about it while they are backed by others who protect them. I choose battles I can win, that's why I rarely die.

I've never ran from any single player in my 75+ /played days in Cyrodiil unless it was of strategic importance like running a scroll, placing a camp etc.

BS, I killed 5 of your friends then started working you down but you ran away.

Now that's rich. The next video I have coming out will show the truth of that. I'm not sure which friends you're talking about but I'd take me and my templar against you as as emperor any day of the week.

If you want to call using the mobility of my class to kite you around until your little wings fold up behind you "running away" then so be it. I'm sure as hell not tanking an Emperor at melee range and if you aren't emperor and I'm not kiting you around then I don't really think you do enough damage to worry about it. I'm pretty sure I'd never resort to kiting you around unless I had no resources at the start of the fight and needed time to replenish them. Even when you were emperor you rarely did damage to me while solo as you couldn't pierce my shields and you had no single target abilities to speak of. I'd only die to you when your allies/NPCs beamed me, lethal arrowed me etc while you bat-swarmed/impulse spammed and even it only happened twice while you were emperor. Compare that to the roughly 30 times I got the killing blow on you instead. Other than the day I was playing around with Impulse I don't know that I've died 30 times total as Emperor.

You also didn't get as many raw kills in such a short amount of time! My impulse was stronk against the bumblebees.

Braidas · October 2014

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »

You also mistook my losing respect for NM. I've never had any respect for NM or any guild that harbors known exploiters. I only grew to respect the one player I've spoken with who wasn't so full of himself that he needed to insult people with tells because he couldn't kill them. That respect was subsequently lost the moment that player decided to log on his alt and steal a scroll for a campaign he cared nothing for.

The opinions of humans -- particularly those of little influence -- are only so much biochemical energy whizzing around through one's skull. It's not worth a cent or a crumb, let alone my consideration. If AD decides to spoil our fun by logging their alts to run scrolls unprovoked I will log on to mine and rectify the wrong. The amount of zone chat rage is also particularly amusing.

I don't do it for any thanks or to earn the respect of anyone and I don't expect everyone to conform to my ideology (although this game would be much more enjoyable were it so), but I always give respect where it is earned and seek to surround myself with people of like integrity. Maybe there are other members of NM with such characteristics but I've yet to interact with one out of the dozen or so who have messaged me as of yet.

Nope.

michaelb14a_ESO2 · October 2014

FluffiestOne wrote: »

As to all the people calling me a known cheater, I invite you to look at my play style, my emperor DK skills are rusty, at best. Compare me to Hova, Aoe Barb, or Jones and you will see I'm not par at the moment. In time that my change, but plz. Don't make stuff up. I am just The Lord of Death and Domination, and you guys are my peasants. All hail Lord Fixate, me. Fixate Fur Fuhrer.

Lol everyone knows it's true. Even your "allies" lol

Telel · October 2014

Khajiit now sees where some people get all that wrist strength they use to waggle their magic sticks around. So much frantic energy wasted, and all to keep an ego pumped up.

But it is okay and they do not judge their 'betters' for what they do when sitting at a computer all day. Though they do hope nothing gets to sore, or raw feeling.

Winnamine · October 2014

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

ratgoddess495 wrote: »

Psilent wrote: »

ratgoddess495 wrote: »

I'm disappointed in the EP that helped a known cheater get emp today.

K

We're trying to create a competitive server, if you want Emp again, take it back. Then we'll take it again. No more buff server for AD!

I'm honestly not even concerned about the loss of a buff server. It's just ridiculous that certain EP assisted a known cheater with getting emp and making a second buff server for DC.

I guess only EP and DC are allowed to have buff servers.

Instead of spreading disappointment all over the forums, you have multiple methods to contact me in game about this which were not used. The only 'known' about this is on the AD side of things, which as an EP player, I'm not privvy to.

Now I'm the disappointed one.

I don't disagree that AD outnumbers the other factions, and I think you're aware that many of us are taking steps to help correct that problem.
I don't even blame EP and DC guilds for teaming up - it's what you do when you're outnumbered, and it's smart.
But I don't know how you justify double teaming a faction's only keep.
Is there any reason to do that?
As long as we're all disappointed here, let me add mine.

Braidas · October 2014

Winnamine wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

ratgoddess495 wrote: »

Psilent wrote: »

ratgoddess495 wrote: »

I'm disappointed in the EP that helped a known cheater get emp today.

K

We're trying to create a competitive server, if you want Emp again, take it back. Then we'll take it again. No more buff server for AD!

I'm honestly not even concerned about the loss of a buff server. It's just ridiculous that certain EP assisted a known cheater with getting emp and making a second buff server for DC.

I guess only EP and DC are allowed to have buff servers.

Instead of spreading disappointment all over the forums, you have multiple methods to contact me in game about this which were not used. The only 'known' about this is on the AD side of things, which as an EP player, I'm not privvy to.

Now I'm the disappointed one.

I don't disagree that AD outnumbers the other factions, and I think you're aware that many of us are taking steps to help correct that problem.
I don't even blame EP and DC guilds for teaming up - it's what you do when you're outnumbered, and it's smart.
But I don't know how you justify double teaming a faction's only keep.
Is there any reason to do that?
As long as we're all disappointed here, let me add mine.

Most DC/EP (especially the EP on Haderus) seem to vehemently hate AD.

Winnamine · October 2014

Braidas wrote: »

Winnamine wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

ratgoddess495 wrote: »

Psilent wrote: »

ratgoddess495 wrote: »

I'm disappointed in the EP that helped a known cheater get emp today.

K

We're trying to create a competitive server, if you want Emp again, take it back. Then we'll take it again. No more buff server for AD!

I'm honestly not even concerned about the loss of a buff server. It's just ridiculous that certain EP assisted a known cheater with getting emp and making a second buff server for DC.

I guess only EP and DC are allowed to have buff servers.

Instead of spreading disappointment all over the forums, you have multiple methods to contact me in game about this which were not used. The only 'known' about this is on the AD side of things, which as an EP player, I'm not privvy to.

Now I'm the disappointed one.

I don't disagree that AD outnumbers the other factions, and I think you're aware that many of us are taking steps to help correct that problem.
I don't even blame EP and DC guilds for teaming up - it's what you do when you're outnumbered, and it's smart.
But I don't know how you justify double teaming a faction's only keep.
Is there any reason to do that?
As long as we're all disappointed here, let me add mine.

Most DC/EP (especially the EP on Haderus) seem to vehemently hate AD.

I've played on DC, and I understand the frustration with AD.
But hating an entire faction for things that are, largely, out of our control is pretty harsh.
I know that AD seems to have a larger population than the other factions, and we're doing the only thing we can to help correct this by rolling alts on the other factions.
And I know that AD has a large oceanic crew, but again, that's nothing any of us can help, they have to play sometime, and unfortunately, it happens to be when most of NA is offline.
As for the EP homed on Haderus, obviously playing on another factions buff server is going to be rough. I assume they do it for the campaign rewards.

Agrippa_Invisus · October 2014

Winnamine wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

Winnamine wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

ratgoddess495 wrote: »

Psilent wrote: »

ratgoddess495 wrote: »

I'm disappointed in the EP that helped a known cheater get emp today.

K

We're trying to create a competitive server, if you want Emp again, take it back. Then we'll take it again. No more buff server for AD!

I'm honestly not even concerned about the loss of a buff server. It's just ridiculous that certain EP assisted a known cheater with getting emp and making a second buff server for DC.

I guess only EP and DC are allowed to have buff servers.

Instead of spreading disappointment all over the forums, you have multiple methods to contact me in game about this which were not used. The only 'known' about this is on the AD side of things, which as an EP player, I'm not privvy to.

Now I'm the disappointed one.

I don't disagree that AD outnumbers the other factions, and I think you're aware that many of us are taking steps to help correct that problem.
I don't even blame EP and DC guilds for teaming up - it's what you do when you're outnumbered, and it's smart.
But I don't know how you justify double teaming a faction's only keep.
Is there any reason to do that?
As long as we're all disappointed here, let me add mine.

Most DC/EP (especially the EP on Haderus) seem to vehemently hate AD.

I've played on DC, and I understand the frustration with AD.
But hating an entire faction for things that are, largely, out of our control is pretty harsh.
I know that AD seems to have a larger population than the other factions, and we're doing the only thing we can to help correct this by rolling alts on the other factions.
And I know that AD has a large oceanic crew, but again, that's nothing any of us can help, they have to play sometime, and unfortunately, it happens to be when most of NA is offline.
As for the EP homed on Haderus, obviously playing on another factions buff server is going to be rough. I assume they do it for the campaign rewards.

To be ultra blunt about it -- every AD has it in their power, right now, to fix the population problem.

Reroll. That simple. Go to character select, hit create character, and choose a red or blue banner. See if you can arrange a 50/50 split between guilds.

Done. Solved.

But it won't happen due to all the hard work that people will claim is involved. I'm sorry, but it's the reality of the situation right now. ZOS hasn't done anything, ZOS has shown us the 1.5 patch notes so we know there's nothing in those notes that help the situation. 1.6 is a long ways off and we don't know if there's any relief there either.

Is it right that AD players have to reroll to keep the game healthy? No. Is it the reality of the situation? Yes.

As for double teaming on Bloodmayne the other day -- AD doesn't warrant that consideration, ESPECIALLY on a buff server. Their sheer numbers grant them no breaks, no special dispensation. We play the game as hard as we can against them, because we get little kindness in return. Just massive swarms of AD, night capping, and whining on the forums about how EP/DC need to fix the population problem themselves.

I'm sick of it. The longer AD overpopulates, the quicker this game dies.

Winnamine · October 2014

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Winnamine wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

Winnamine wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

ratgoddess495 wrote: »

Psilent wrote: »

ratgoddess495 wrote: »

I'm disappointed in the EP that helped a known cheater get emp today.

K

We're trying to create a competitive server, if you want Emp again, take it back. Then we'll take it again. No more buff server for AD!

I'm honestly not even concerned about the loss of a buff server. It's just ridiculous that certain EP assisted a known cheater with getting emp and making a second buff server for DC.

I guess only EP and DC are allowed to have buff servers.

Instead of spreading disappointment all over the forums, you have multiple methods to contact me in game about this which were not used. The only 'known' about this is on the AD side of things, which as an EP player, I'm not privvy to.

Now I'm the disappointed one.

I don't disagree that AD outnumbers the other factions, and I think you're aware that many of us are taking steps to help correct that problem.
I don't even blame EP and DC guilds for teaming up - it's what you do when you're outnumbered, and it's smart.
But I don't know how you justify double teaming a faction's only keep.
Is there any reason to do that?
As long as we're all disappointed here, let me add mine.

Most DC/EP (especially the EP on Haderus) seem to vehemently hate AD.

I've played on DC, and I understand the frustration with AD.
But hating an entire faction for things that are, largely, out of our control is pretty harsh.
I know that AD seems to have a larger population than the other factions, and we're doing the only thing we can to help correct this by rolling alts on the other factions.
And I know that AD has a large oceanic crew, but again, that's nothing any of us can help, they have to play sometime, and unfortunately, it happens to be when most of NA is offline.
As for the EP homed on Haderus, obviously playing on another factions buff server is going to be rough. I assume they do it for the campaign rewards.

To be ultra blunt about it -- every AD has it in their power, right now, to fix the population problem.

Reroll. That simple. Go to character select, hit create character, and choose a red or blue banner. See if you can arrange a 50/50 split between guilds.

Done. Solved.

But it won't happen due to all the hard work that people will claim is involved. I'm sorry, but it's the reality of the situation right now. ZOS hasn't done anything, ZOS has shown us the 1.5 patch notes so we know there's nothing in those notes that help the situation. 1.6 is a long ways off and we don't know if there's any relief there either.

Is it right that AD players have to reroll to keep the game healthy? No. Is it the reality of the situation? Yes.

As for double teaming on Bloodmayne the other day -- AD doesn't warrant that consideration, ESPECIALLY on a buff server. Their sheer numbers grant them no breaks, no special dispensation. We play the game as hard as we can against them, because we get little kindness in return. Just massive swarms of AD, night capping, and whining on the forums about how EP/DC need to fix the population problem themselves.

I'm sick of it. The longer AD overpopulates, the quicker this game dies.

I have a VR12 DC alt.
My guild are all leveling DC alts. It is a slow process, because it is a lot of work. But we have recognized the problem, agreed to take this step to fix it, and are in the process of making it happen.
I know that other AD guilds are trying to do the same thing, there is a post here on the forums, for example, where Venetas discusses their plans to reroll.
We are trying to fix it.
As for kindness from AD, your team and other EP guilds took Azura's from us, and you outnumbered us by far.
Then you came to Haderus and teamed up with a DC guild to do the same.
While our guilds scramble to convince our members to put in the time and effort to level DC or EP alts, you gang up on us.
You're not helping our cause, you know.

Asgari · October 2014

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Just blink away from this thread while all of your AD peasants perish. I lost my respect for you when i had to /sitchair and you wouldn't attack me and ran away.

You mean I wouldn't fight you and your templar healbot 2 v 1? I'd have done so and won easily were I still emp but how do you propose a Sorc kills a DK that spams Harness magicka and Reflective scales and a templar that spams blazing shield and harness magicka both of which have power heals at the same time? Killing either of you 1 v 1 would have taken me 5 minutes or possibly more, killing both of you while letting you both beat on me isn't possible. I tried to engage each of you singly and the other one would jump in. I tried kiting you both for a bit and you kept the heals and shields up so I simply disengaged as I would any group or player that I have no chance of killing...and I crashed right after I did that so it is a good thing because I hate having to log into cyrodiil twice every time I crash.

It is always amusing this talk of running away by people who cry about it while they are backed by others who protect them. I choose battles I can win, that's why I rarely die.

I've never ran from any single player in my 75+ /played days in Cyrodiil unless it was of strategic importance like running a scroll, placing a camp etc.

Oh so when your an Emp you can have a pocket healer and still run with ur skirt up high but once you loose Emp it's my fault for having another player around. If you didn't run 4-5 streaks away I wouldn't of told him to help cc you. But as usual you just run, run away.

The difference between you and I is, I earn my AP in the fights. I drop ultis for my side, I capture resources and keeps for my side. I don't prance around pretending to be helping.

All of NM laughs at you for the other night while you streaked around the keep and let us farm AD. Many of us with ties to AD guild leaders or known players got tells from them wishing they had a real Emp who supported them.

Like I said before run away before it gets worse.

Agrippa_Invisus · October 2014

Winnamine wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Winnamine wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

Winnamine wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

ratgoddess495 wrote: »

Psilent wrote: »

ratgoddess495 wrote: »

I'm disappointed in the EP that helped a known cheater get emp today.

K

We're trying to create a competitive server, if you want Emp again, take it back. Then we'll take it again. No more buff server for AD!

I'm honestly not even concerned about the loss of a buff server. It's just ridiculous that certain EP assisted a known cheater with getting emp and making a second buff server for DC.

I guess only EP and DC are allowed to have buff servers.

Instead of spreading disappointment all over the forums, you have multiple methods to contact me in game about this which were not used. The only 'known' about this is on the AD side of things, which as an EP player, I'm not privvy to.

Now I'm the disappointed one.

I don't disagree that AD outnumbers the other factions, and I think you're aware that many of us are taking steps to help correct that problem.
I don't even blame EP and DC guilds for teaming up - it's what you do when you're outnumbered, and it's smart.
But I don't know how you justify double teaming a faction's only keep.
Is there any reason to do that?
As long as we're all disappointed here, let me add mine.

Most DC/EP (especially the EP on Haderus) seem to vehemently hate AD.

I've played on DC, and I understand the frustration with AD.
But hating an entire faction for things that are, largely, out of our control is pretty harsh.
I know that AD seems to have a larger population than the other factions, and we're doing the only thing we can to help correct this by rolling alts on the other factions.
And I know that AD has a large oceanic crew, but again, that's nothing any of us can help, they have to play sometime, and unfortunately, it happens to be when most of NA is offline.
As for the EP homed on Haderus, obviously playing on another factions buff server is going to be rough. I assume they do it for the campaign rewards.

To be ultra blunt about it -- every AD has it in their power, right now, to fix the population problem.

Reroll. That simple. Go to character select, hit create character, and choose a red or blue banner. See if you can arrange a 50/50 split between guilds.

Done. Solved.

But it won't happen due to all the hard work that people will claim is involved. I'm sorry, but it's the reality of the situation right now. ZOS hasn't done anything, ZOS has shown us the 1.5 patch notes so we know there's nothing in those notes that help the situation. 1.6 is a long ways off and we don't know if there's any relief there either.

Is it right that AD players have to reroll to keep the game healthy? No. Is it the reality of the situation? Yes.

As for double teaming on Bloodmayne the other day -- AD doesn't warrant that consideration, ESPECIALLY on a buff server. Their sheer numbers grant them no breaks, no special dispensation. We play the game as hard as we can against them, because we get little kindness in return. Just massive swarms of AD, night capping, and whining on the forums about how EP/DC need to fix the population problem themselves.

I'm sick of it. The longer AD overpopulates, the quicker this game dies.

I have a VR12 DC alt.
My guild are all leveling DC alts. It is a slow process, because it is a lot of work. But we have recognized the problem, agreed to take this step to fix it, and are in the process of making it happen.
I know that other AD guilds are trying to do the same thing, there is a post here on the forums, for example, where Venetas discusses their plans to reroll.
We are trying to fix it.
As for kindness from AD, your team and other EP guilds took Azura's from us, and you outnumbered us by far.
Then you came to Haderus and teamed up with a DC guild to do the same.
While our guilds scramble to convince our members to put in the time and effort to level DC or EP alts, you gang up on us.
You're not helping our cause, you know.

Come to Azura's. Take it back. Please.

We want to fight there instead of Lagblade. We go to Haderus because Thornblade is literally unplayable most days between 8pm Central to 10pm. Constant crashes, disconnects, 3-6s skill lag.

Do you have fun in that environment? I don't. Most of my guildmates don't. I know No Mercy doesn't.

I have stated before, and I'll state again here -- Buff campaigns are an abomination and a complete corruption of the ideals and desires of the game developers. This includes Azura's Star. A server it was never our intent to turn into a buff server, but got zerged down by other EP guilds the moment they realized we'd run it red to start catching the scoreboard up.

I want them all to be competitive, so that our populations aren't all jammed into Thornblade breaking the game, causing constant crashes and rollbacks.

Campaigns don't belong to any player or guild. They can't be stolen. They are property of ZOS, and we pay rent to play on them. That PVP happens on them is a good thing. It needs to happen on all of them instead of triple locks on Thornblade.

Right now EP and DC can't afford to spread out, though. The locking system during prime time protects them from the worst of the zerging. If EP/DC spread out in earnest, putting 2 bars instead of locks into as many campaigns as they can, AD would still lock Thornblade and have enough to compete outnumber any one faction on Haderus and still have a presence on Chillrend or Azura's. EP/DC don't have the bodies to do that. The most bars I've seen online in the last 2 weeks for EP is 6 total (Azura's and Thorn combined). That'd give us 2 bars in 3 campaigns, and that was when there was a large invasion of Azura's and all our PVErs came out to fight. AD always has 6 bars, even on a slow night, between Haderus and Thornblade and can certainly lock both easily.

I don't care if you don't like me. I can live with that.

But this is the reality of the situation. If AD continues to overpopulate their faction, this game is a goner.

Hate me all you want. Just be honest.

EDIT: And that you have a V12 DC alt is great news. Get her to V14. Get your guild's alts to V14, come kill me repeatedly if it makes you feel better.

Whatever it takes. Just don't be on your AD.

Braidas · October 2014

All AD are welcome on Chillrend as well! If you guys came out to other servers we wouldn't need to bring the fight to hade...

Asgari · October 2014

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Winnamine wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Winnamine wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

Winnamine wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

ratgoddess495 wrote: »

Psilent wrote: »

ratgoddess495 wrote: »

I'm disappointed in the EP that helped a known cheater get emp today.

K

We're trying to create a competitive server, if you want Emp again, take it back. Then we'll take it again. No more buff server for AD!

I'm honestly not even concerned about the loss of a buff server. It's just ridiculous that certain EP assisted a known cheater with getting emp and making a second buff server for DC.

I guess only EP and DC are allowed to have buff servers.

Instead of spreading disappointment all over the forums, you have multiple methods to contact me in game about this which were not used. The only 'known' about this is on the AD side of things, which as an EP player, I'm not privvy to.

Now I'm the disappointed one.

I don't disagree that AD outnumbers the other factions, and I think you're aware that many of us are taking steps to help correct that problem.
I don't even blame EP and DC guilds for teaming up - it's what you do when you're outnumbered, and it's smart.
But I don't know how you justify double teaming a faction's only keep.
Is there any reason to do that?
As long as we're all disappointed here, let me add mine.

Most DC/EP (especially the EP on Haderus) seem to vehemently hate AD.

I've played on DC, and I understand the frustration with AD.
But hating an entire faction for things that are, largely, out of our control is pretty harsh.
I know that AD seems to have a larger population than the other factions, and we're doing the only thing we can to help correct this by rolling alts on the other factions.
And I know that AD has a large oceanic crew, but again, that's nothing any of us can help, they have to play sometime, and unfortunately, it happens to be when most of NA is offline.
As for the EP homed on Haderus, obviously playing on another factions buff server is going to be rough. I assume they do it for the campaign rewards.

To be ultra blunt about it -- every AD has it in their power, right now, to fix the population problem.

Reroll. That simple. Go to character select, hit create character, and choose a red or blue banner. See if you can arrange a 50/50 split between guilds.

Done. Solved.

But it won't happen due to all the hard work that people will claim is involved. I'm sorry, but it's the reality of the situation right now. ZOS hasn't done anything, ZOS has shown us the 1.5 patch notes so we know there's nothing in those notes that help the situation. 1.6 is a long ways off and we don't know if there's any relief there either.

Is it right that AD players have to reroll to keep the game healthy? No. Is it the reality of the situation? Yes.

As for double teaming on Bloodmayne the other day -- AD doesn't warrant that consideration, ESPECIALLY on a buff server. Their sheer numbers grant them no breaks, no special dispensation. We play the game as hard as we can against them, because we get little kindness in return. Just massive swarms of AD, night capping, and whining on the forums about how EP/DC need to fix the population problem themselves.

I'm sick of it. The longer AD overpopulates, the quicker this game dies.

I have a VR12 DC alt.
My guild are all leveling DC alts. It is a slow process, because it is a lot of work. But we have recognized the problem, agreed to take this step to fix it, and are in the process of making it happen.
I know that other AD guilds are trying to do the same thing, there is a post here on the forums, for example, where Venetas discusses their plans to reroll.
We are trying to fix it.
As for kindness from AD, your team and other EP guilds took Azura's from us, and you outnumbered us by far.
Then you came to Haderus and teamed up with a DC guild to do the same.
While our guilds scramble to convince our members to put in the time and effort to level DC or EP alts, you gang up on us.
You're not helping our cause, you know.

Come to Azura's. Take it back. Please.

We want to fight there instead of Lagblade. We go to Haderus because Thornblade is literally unplayable most days between 8pm Central to 10pm. Constant crashes, disconnects, 3-6s skill lag.

Do you have fun in that environment? I don't. Most of my guildmates don't. I know No Mercy doesn't.

I have stated before, and I'll state again here -- Buff campaigns are an abomination and a complete corruption of the ideals and desires of the game developers. This includes Azura's Star. A server it was never our intent to turn into a buff server, but got zerged down by other EP guilds the moment they realized we'd run it red to start catching the scoreboard up.

I want them all to be competitive, so that our populations aren't all jammed into Thornblade breaking the game, causing constant crashes and rollbacks.

Campaigns don't belong to any player or guild. They can't be stolen. They are property of ZOS, and we pay rent to play on them. That PVP happens on them is a good thing. It needs to happen on all of them instead of triple locks on Thornblade.

Right now EP and DC can't afford to spread out, though. The locking system during prime time protects them from the worst of the zerging. If EP/DC spread out in earnest, putting 2 bars instead of locks into as many campaigns as they can, AD would still lock Thornblade and have enough to compete outnumber any one faction on Haderus and still have a presence on Chillrend or Azura's. EP/DC don't have the bodies to do that. The most bars I've seen online in the last 2 weeks for EP is 6 total (Azura's and Thorn combined). That'd give us 2 bars in 3 campaigns, and that was when there was a large invasion of Azura's and all our PVErs came out to fight. AD always has 6 bars, even on a slow night, between Haderus and Thornblade and can certainly lock both easily.

I don't care if you don't like me. I can live with that.

But this is the reality of the situation. If AD continues to overpopulate their faction, this game is a goner.

Hate me all you want. Just be honest.

EDIT: And that you have a V12 DC alt is great news. Get her to V14. Get your guild's alts to V14, come kill me repeatedly if it makes you feel better.

Whatever it takes. Just don't be on your AD.

Just like our discussion last night regarding Haderus, there is only so much we can do. The other night on the Emp push DC and EP combined equated to 2 bars and AD had 2 bars while thorn wasn't locked for us and was locked for AD.

When AD is locked I know there is at least a minimum of 80+ people in that queue. It's astonishing players in this game who outnumber both other factions combined think we won't group up and push back. It's the unfortunate truth in this game that without alliances the sheer volume of players from the AD side and late - early morning crew will just overwhelm any map.

Winnamine · October 2014

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Winnamine wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Winnamine wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

Winnamine wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

ratgoddess495 wrote: »

Psilent wrote: »

ratgoddess495 wrote: »

I'm disappointed in the EP that helped a known cheater get emp today.

K

We're trying to create a competitive server, if you want Emp again, take it back. Then we'll take it again. No more buff server for AD!

I'm honestly not even concerned about the loss of a buff server. It's just ridiculous that certain EP assisted a known cheater with getting emp and making a second buff server for DC.

I guess only EP and DC are allowed to have buff servers.

Instead of spreading disappointment all over the forums, you have multiple methods to contact me in game about this which were not used. The only 'known' about this is on the AD side of things, which as an EP player, I'm not privvy to.

Now I'm the disappointed one.

I don't disagree that AD outnumbers the other factions, and I think you're aware that many of us are taking steps to help correct that problem.
I don't even blame EP and DC guilds for teaming up - it's what you do when you're outnumbered, and it's smart.
But I don't know how you justify double teaming a faction's only keep.
Is there any reason to do that?
As long as we're all disappointed here, let me add mine.

Most DC/EP (especially the EP on Haderus) seem to vehemently hate AD.

I've played on DC, and I understand the frustration with AD.
But hating an entire faction for things that are, largely, out of our control is pretty harsh.
I know that AD seems to have a larger population than the other factions, and we're doing the only thing we can to help correct this by rolling alts on the other factions.
And I know that AD has a large oceanic crew, but again, that's nothing any of us can help, they have to play sometime, and unfortunately, it happens to be when most of NA is offline.
As for the EP homed on Haderus, obviously playing on another factions buff server is going to be rough. I assume they do it for the campaign rewards.

To be ultra blunt about it -- every AD has it in their power, right now, to fix the population problem.

Reroll. That simple. Go to character select, hit create character, and choose a red or blue banner. See if you can arrange a 50/50 split between guilds.

Done. Solved.

But it won't happen due to all the hard work that people will claim is involved. I'm sorry, but it's the reality of the situation right now. ZOS hasn't done anything, ZOS has shown us the 1.5 patch notes so we know there's nothing in those notes that help the situation. 1.6 is a long ways off and we don't know if there's any relief there either.

Is it right that AD players have to reroll to keep the game healthy? No. Is it the reality of the situation? Yes.

As for double teaming on Bloodmayne the other day -- AD doesn't warrant that consideration, ESPECIALLY on a buff server. Their sheer numbers grant them no breaks, no special dispensation. We play the game as hard as we can against them, because we get little kindness in return. Just massive swarms of AD, night capping, and whining on the forums about how EP/DC need to fix the population problem themselves.

I'm sick of it. The longer AD overpopulates, the quicker this game dies.

I have a VR12 DC alt.
My guild are all leveling DC alts. It is a slow process, because it is a lot of work. But we have recognized the problem, agreed to take this step to fix it, and are in the process of making it happen.
I know that other AD guilds are trying to do the same thing, there is a post here on the forums, for example, where Venetas discusses their plans to reroll.
We are trying to fix it.
As for kindness from AD, your team and other EP guilds took Azura's from us, and you outnumbered us by far.
Then you came to Haderus and teamed up with a DC guild to do the same.
While our guilds scramble to convince our members to put in the time and effort to level DC or EP alts, you gang up on us.
You're not helping our cause, you know.

Come to Azura's. Take it back. Please.

We want to fight there instead of Lagblade. We go to Haderus because Thornblade is literally unplayable most days between 8pm Central to 10pm. Constant crashes, disconnects, 3-6s skill lag.

Do you have fun in that environment? I don't. Most of my guildmates don't. I know No Mercy doesn't.

I have stated before, and I'll state again here -- Buff campaigns are an abomination and a complete corruption of the ideals and desires of the game developers. This includes Azura's Star. A server it was never our intent to turn into a buff server, but got zerged down by other EP guilds the moment they realized we'd run it red to start catching the scoreboard up.

I want them all to be competitive, so that our populations aren't all jammed into Thornblade breaking the game, causing constant crashes and rollbacks.

Campaigns don't belong to any player or guild. They can't be stolen. They are property of ZOS, and we pay rent to play on them. That PVP happens on them is a good thing. It needs to happen on all of them instead of triple locks on Thornblade.

Right now EP and DC can't afford to spread out, though. The locking system during prime time protects them from the worst of the zerging. If EP/DC spread out in earnest, putting 2 bars instead of locks into as many campaigns as they can, AD would still lock Thornblade and have enough to compete outnumber any one faction on Haderus and still have a presence on Chillrend or Azura's. EP/DC don't have the bodies to do that. The most bars I've seen online in the last 2 weeks for EP is 6 total (Azura's and Thorn combined). That'd give us 2 bars in 3 campaigns, and that was when there was a large invasion of Azura's and all our PVErs came out to fight. AD always has 6 bars, even on a slow night, between Haderus and Thornblade and can certainly lock both easily.

I don't care if you don't like me. I can live with that.

But this is the reality of the situation. If AD continues to overpopulate their faction, this game is a goner.

Hate me all you want. Just be honest.

I don't hate you, actually I like and respect you and your team a lot.
Your posts on the forums are part of the reason I pushed for Decibel to make alts on another faction.
I even agree with you on buff servers, I'm homed on Thornblade bc that's where I usually play.

We would happily take back Azura's, but we can't.
The other AD guilds have not been interested in leaving TB for Azura's, and we need them bc, whether you wish to or not, you can't stop the rest of EP from swarming there once they realize AD has attacked their buff server. (And honestly, it IS a buff server for EP now, even if that wasn't your intention.)

Look, all I'm saying is, there's a lot of hate for AD because EP and DC haven't appreciated being zerged down by superior numbers, and having their last keeps taken and their gates camped: precisely the tactics you've been using against us lately.
It may seem justified, maybe it IS justified. But it's also spawning a lot of EP/DC hate on AD, which makes it hard for us to convince our people to reroll to your side.

Agrippa_Invisus · October 2014

Winnamine wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Winnamine wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Winnamine wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

Winnamine wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

ratgoddess495 wrote: »

Psilent wrote: »

ratgoddess495 wrote: »

I'm disappointed in the EP that helped a known cheater get emp today.

K

We're trying to create a competitive server, if you want Emp again, take it back. Then we'll take it again. No more buff server for AD!

I'm honestly not even concerned about the loss of a buff server. It's just ridiculous that certain EP assisted a known cheater with getting emp and making a second buff server for DC.

I guess only EP and DC are allowed to have buff servers.

Instead of spreading disappointment all over the forums, you have multiple methods to contact me in game about this which were not used. The only 'known' about this is on the AD side of things, which as an EP player, I'm not privvy to.

Now I'm the disappointed one.

I don't disagree that AD outnumbers the other factions, and I think you're aware that many of us are taking steps to help correct that problem.
I don't even blame EP and DC guilds for teaming up - it's what you do when you're outnumbered, and it's smart.
But I don't know how you justify double teaming a faction's only keep.
Is there any reason to do that?
As long as we're all disappointed here, let me add mine.

Most DC/EP (especially the EP on Haderus) seem to vehemently hate AD.

I've played on DC, and I understand the frustration with AD.
But hating an entire faction for things that are, largely, out of our control is pretty harsh.
I know that AD seems to have a larger population than the other factions, and we're doing the only thing we can to help correct this by rolling alts on the other factions.
And I know that AD has a large oceanic crew, but again, that's nothing any of us can help, they have to play sometime, and unfortunately, it happens to be when most of NA is offline.
As for the EP homed on Haderus, obviously playing on another factions buff server is going to be rough. I assume they do it for the campaign rewards.

To be ultra blunt about it -- every AD has it in their power, right now, to fix the population problem.

Reroll. That simple. Go to character select, hit create character, and choose a red or blue banner. See if you can arrange a 50/50 split between guilds.

Done. Solved.

But it won't happen due to all the hard work that people will claim is involved. I'm sorry, but it's the reality of the situation right now. ZOS hasn't done anything, ZOS has shown us the 1.5 patch notes so we know there's nothing in those notes that help the situation. 1.6 is a long ways off and we don't know if there's any relief there either.

Is it right that AD players have to reroll to keep the game healthy? No. Is it the reality of the situation? Yes.

As for double teaming on Bloodmayne the other day -- AD doesn't warrant that consideration, ESPECIALLY on a buff server. Their sheer numbers grant them no breaks, no special dispensation. We play the game as hard as we can against them, because we get little kindness in return. Just massive swarms of AD, night capping, and whining on the forums about how EP/DC need to fix the population problem themselves.

I'm sick of it. The longer AD overpopulates, the quicker this game dies.

I have a VR12 DC alt.
My guild are all leveling DC alts. It is a slow process, because it is a lot of work. But we have recognized the problem, agreed to take this step to fix it, and are in the process of making it happen.
I know that other AD guilds are trying to do the same thing, there is a post here on the forums, for example, where Venetas discusses their plans to reroll.
We are trying to fix it.
As for kindness from AD, your team and other EP guilds took Azura's from us, and you outnumbered us by far.
Then you came to Haderus and teamed up with a DC guild to do the same.
While our guilds scramble to convince our members to put in the time and effort to level DC or EP alts, you gang up on us.
You're not helping our cause, you know.

Come to Azura's. Take it back. Please.

We want to fight there instead of Lagblade. We go to Haderus because Thornblade is literally unplayable most days between 8pm Central to 10pm. Constant crashes, disconnects, 3-6s skill lag.

Do you have fun in that environment? I don't. Most of my guildmates don't. I know No Mercy doesn't.

I have stated before, and I'll state again here -- Buff campaigns are an abomination and a complete corruption of the ideals and desires of the game developers. This includes Azura's Star. A server it was never our intent to turn into a buff server, but got zerged down by other EP guilds the moment they realized we'd run it red to start catching the scoreboard up.

I want them all to be competitive, so that our populations aren't all jammed into Thornblade breaking the game, causing constant crashes and rollbacks.

Campaigns don't belong to any player or guild. They can't be stolen. They are property of ZOS, and we pay rent to play on them. That PVP happens on them is a good thing. It needs to happen on all of them instead of triple locks on Thornblade.

Right now EP and DC can't afford to spread out, though. The locking system during prime time protects them from the worst of the zerging. If EP/DC spread out in earnest, putting 2 bars instead of locks into as many campaigns as they can, AD would still lock Thornblade and have enough to compete outnumber any one faction on Haderus and still have a presence on Chillrend or Azura's. EP/DC don't have the bodies to do that. The most bars I've seen online in the last 2 weeks for EP is 6 total (Azura's and Thorn combined). That'd give us 2 bars in 3 campaigns, and that was when there was a large invasion of Azura's and all our PVErs came out to fight. AD always has 6 bars, even on a slow night, between Haderus and Thornblade and can certainly lock both easily.

I don't care if you don't like me. I can live with that.

But this is the reality of the situation. If AD continues to overpopulate their faction, this game is a goner.

Hate me all you want. Just be honest.

I don't hate you, actually I like and respect you and your team a lot.
Your posts on the forums are part of the reason I pushed for Decibel to make alts on another faction.
I even agree with you on buff servers, I'm homed on Thornblade bc that's where I usually play.

We would happily take back Azura's, but we can't.
The other AD guilds have not been interested in leaving TB for Azura's, and we need them bc, whether you wish to or not, you can't stop the rest of EP from swarming there once they realize AD has attacked their buff server. (And honestly, it IS a buff server for EP now, even if that wasn't your intention.)

Look, all I'm saying is, there's a lot of hate for AD because EP and DC haven't appreciated being zerged down by superior numbers, and having their last keeps taken and their gates camped: precisely the tactics you've been using against us lately.
It may seem justified, maybe it IS justified. But it's also spawning a lot of EP/DC hate on AD, which makes it hard for us to convince our people to reroll to your side.

I can understand how that becomes a vicious circle easily.

EP / DC want to smash the holy crudola out of AD most days. If BrandonZerg didn't exist (with their obsession with hitting Chalman/Arrius) on Thornblade, most days would be spent in the AD territory. The days we can get them pointed south, you've seen, I'm sure.

On other days, when players want to escape Lagblade but still smash AD, there's only one choice for places to go, as there are no AD of any note on Chillrend or Azura's currently.

At the same time, I know I get some choice /tells from AD while we're on Haderus. So do other members of my team. Mostly it involves us leaving, fornicating something we'd rather not, and them reiterating their claim of ownership to a ZOS owned Campaign server.

So AD gets mad at us and comes back to Thorn and smashes EP / DC (whomever last was on Haderus). Then back to Haderus to get revenge. Then maybe over to Azura's or Chillrend with AD. And so on.

1.5's removal of cross campaign buffs can't get here fast enough. I'm sick and tired of it. It does nothing to help the game and has been a weight around the game's neck since the beginning with places like Goldbrand, Volendrung, Hopesfire, and Bloodthorn. I don't think that'll correct the population issues, but it's a good start. It makes it so switching and then fighting on another campaign doesn't warrant the massive defense force for MAH BOOFZ.

Huntler · October 2014

Braidas wrote: »

All AD are welcome on Chillrend as well! If you guys came out to other servers we wouldn't need to bring the fight to hade...

Na man, bring the fight to Haderus and purge these AD lemmings by fire

Telel · October 2014

It is worth noting that even when the murder flows as thick as Braida's aroma that a good chunk of the Dominion's population bar is made up of folks there to run dolmens, sky shards, and quests for the achievements.

Over the weekend zone chat was repeatedly filled with a group looking for more ot run the Dolmens, and as khajiit rode through cyrodiil in search of blues and reds they ran across more than two other groups doing other non murdering activities.

However as the Dominion's side is also filled with folks new, and unsure, of the what's and wherefores of PVP those that do engage in the honorable past time of clubbing and land stealing tend to gravitate to wherever the camps are, and wherever they can get a group. This tends to result in almost all of our PVPers banding together more out of accident than by some grand plot on our part.

However those who lead seem to understand that one works with what one has.

In the end that's no different from folks who use baiting methods to lure the unwary out of a keep so that six to twelve stealthed 'skilled' players can take them out one at a time for hours on end. It's a tactic that gets results when you simply can not use others.

It's also worth noting that certain 'skilled and superior' players have used this tendency to try and snag keeps that are empty of defenders. Sadly several such peoples have turned and fled when this horribly bad, and poorly built, nightblade has shown up and deployed a ballista . Hopefully they simply felt sorry for my lack of comrades and decided to reward me with the AP I need to buy more camps.

msawwan2ub17_ESO · October 2014

someone please summarize the last 6 responses by ezarath and the 2 by aggripa and the 2 by bbq and the 1 by winnie

i refuse to read journals and i feel like i am missing out.

oh and to the guys with short comments, i read them all.

let me clear it for you. in No-mercy we are not all Vamp DKs. there is only like 2-3 vamp DKs. if they instilling that much fear into your hearts that you are seeing them as a million DK that is your problem not ours

i am not a vamp dk and will never pick it. *** that.

also a wide range of all other classes. our groups are balanced in terms of number of classes.

just admit it. we are better than you, we are better than anyone, when we pass by everyone bow down. and moveeeeee on dudeeeeeeess

Agrippa_Invisus · October 2014

msawwan2ub17_ESO wrote: »

someone please summarize the last 6 responses by ezarath and the 2 by aggripa and the 2 by bbq and the 1 by winnie

i refuse to read journals and i feel like i am missing out.

oh and to the guys with short comments, i read them all.

let me clear it for you. in No-mercy we are not all Vamp DKs. there is only like 2-3 vamp DKs. if they instilling that much fear into your hearts that you are seeing them as a million DK that is your problem not ours

i am not a vamp dk and will never pick it. *** that.

also a wide range of all other classes. our groups are balanced in terms of number of classes.

just admit it. we are better than you, we are better than anyone, when we pass by everyone bow down. and moveeeeee on dudeeeeeeess

The TL;DR version --

There are too many AD, we need more AD to reroll. Some AD don't like us because of EP/DC activities on Haderus and would rather stay AD to kill us both. And buff servers suck and need to be places you can find PVP away from the lag.

Armitas · October 2014

If you AD don't want to reroll or can't at least spread out. There is a large group of DC and EP that will only enter PvP if and only if "Mah Buffs!" are in jeopardy. They are useless and unreliable to the alliance save in defending their buffs on their buff server. They won't help their Alliance in Thornblade, or Haderus, they will only fight to retain their buffs.

If you home the other factions buff server and fight there, both EP and DC numbers will surge up because you have drawn out these hidden EP and DC. Just by being there you will increase the numbers of the underpopulated factions.

The notion of "If I can't play on Thornblade I must play on my factions buff server" needs to go. Man up and face a challenge. A lot of DC and EP have done this on Haderus for the sake of the game. They are fighting ridiculous odds as hordes of AD pour in cause "mah buffs!". DC and EP's mission on haderus is to make a second play campaign and save PVP for this game. AD's mission on Haderus is to protect their buffs for PvE at the cost of PvP. Who can tell me that AD values PvP when they respond to the first real attempt to recover PvP in this game by sending in the horde to undo it? *

*There are some fine AD out there that value PvP. I am not lumping them in but speaking to the applicable AD.