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keeps should be locked when population is Imbalanced and...
if the defending faction is at 1 bar and the attacking faction is at full at 3:00 A.M keeps should be lock from being taken and people that are guesting from another server shouldnt be able to capture keeps or resources or damage walls, and their buff should be removed.
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riverdragon72✭✭✭✭✭Sorry, but it is a big world out there and it doesn't revolve around you or your time zone.Meh...**** it..9 -
Nox_Aeterna✭✭✭✭✭
✭riverdragon72 wrote: »Sorry, but it is a big world out there and it doesn't revolve around you or your time zone.
Yeap pretty much.
Different people play at different times and also this would lead to people literely being able to defend everything they have on a said cyro by just dropping.
It is like , hey there are too many of them right now and they are about to take our stuff so lets leave cyro so they cant touch anything."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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Minnesinger✭✭✭✭✭
✭Try another campaign. What would you expect from a dead server. if DC is the only faction who cares to capture the keeps it is better to look elsewhere. Or if you prefer this campaign you should adjust your play style to it. Just gank.A is for Atronach.
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Qyrk✭✭✭✭✭
✭This will not work. This would have preference of one time zone over the other. How about ZOS just remove guesting entirely and it will be a step in the right direction.3 -
Cody✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I too am annoyed by this... "nightcapping"(I don't know what else to call it) but our nighttime may be our enemies daytime, so instead of locking the keeps, how about something like this:
if a faction has a large population advantage over the other two factions, that will receive a decrease in earned points, as well as weaker keep guards. They will also receive straight up combat de-buffs.Edited by Cody on October 5, 2014 1:01AM2 -
Blackthorn51✭✭✭There is no alternative server to try. Either you play Thorn Blade or your on an AD or DC buff server in which case you may as well just log back out.
Removing the ability to guest would help.
Ceasing to allow transfer of buffs to other servers is hopefully going to help some but it's not the be all, end all solution.
PVE buffs clearly give AD enough incentive to QQ and steamroll their buff server if even a resource gets capped. Remove PVP buffs from PVE and instead give PVE'ers their own buffs based on their guilds trial times. Fastest times get the buffs so people would compete for speed. Buffs dont work in pvp.
Imperial City will give incentive to own servers in the same way as well so that your faction can safely explore it without really risking anything in over-world cyrodiil.
I say give us two 30 day campaigns and one 7 or 14 day campaign (The shorter campaign only allowing for 50% of max population because frankly the people who play Haderus for example are only there to 'escape the zerg.')
Edit: Put PVPers in 1 corner. PVEers in another. Quit trying to mix them because it buggers up one or the other.
Edited by Blackthorn51 on October 5, 2014 3:09AM0 -
Minnesinger✭✭✭✭✭
✭Blackthorn51 wrote: »There is no alternative server to try. Either you play Thorn Blade or your on an AD or DC buff server in which case you may as well just log back out.
Removing the ability to guest would help.
Ceasing to allow transfer of buffs to other servers is hopefully going to help some but it's not the be all, end all solution.
PVE buffs clearly give AD enough incentive to QQ and steamroll their buff server if even a resource gets capped. Remove PVP buffs from PVE and instead give PVE'ers their own buffs based on their guilds trial times. Fastest times get the buffs so people would compete for speed. Buffs dont work in pvp.
Imperial City will give incentive to own servers in the same way as well so that your faction can safely explore it without really risking anything in over-world cyrodiil.
I say give us two 30 day campaigns and one 7 or 14 day campaign (The shorter campaign only allowing for 50% of max population because frankly the people who play Haderus for example are only there to 'escape the zerg.')
Edit: Put PVPers in 1 corner. PVEers in another. Quit trying to mix them because it buggers up one or the other.
Thorn doesn´t look like that what I have seen. If some Alliance has an opportunity to take over the whole map they can hardly hold on that. If OP was talking about the buff servers where the map is all blue, yellow (or red) he can try Thorn (NA).A is for Atronach.
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✭sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »i like my idea better
Cool, I hope you enjoy watching ZOS not implement your idea. Invest in a helmet.Shendell De'Gull - V14 Vampire Nightblade
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Cody✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »i like my idea better
so you like the idea of locking people out of PvP all because they are in a different time zone?
don't you think that is at least a tiny bit selfish?0 -
Skwor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »i like my idea better
so you like the idea of locking people out of PvP all because they are in a different time zone?
don't you think that is at least a tiny bit selfish?
Your assumptions is wrong. He isn't asking to lock people out of PVP, he is asking to lock players who intentionally exploit a timezone to PVE in PVP.
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when did i say anything about locking people out of pvp? Obviously you can't read. i Said making the keeps locked when the population is imbalanced and making people who home campaigns where they HAVE EVERY KEEP AND EVERY SCROLL lose their buffs.sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »i like my idea better
so you like the idea of locking people out of PvP all because they are in a different time zone?
don't you think that is at least a tiny bit selfish?
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✭skwornub18_ESO wrote: »he is asking to lock players who intentionally exploit a timezone to PVE in PVP.
Yes I agree lock the PVEr's out on low pop timezone play times
Sorry but people have the right to play during the prime time in their time zones. Just because NA is sleeping doesn't mean other time zones will have to drop PvP because "it's not fair" "it's exploiting a timezone". Seriously, no one revolves around the NA population. People from other timezones should not be deterred from pvp (or even nightcap if they got the numbers) just because NA is having beauty sleep.Edited by Qyrk on October 5, 2014 9:07PM3 -
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✭✭✭skwornub18_ESO wrote: »he is asking to lock players who intentionally exploit a timezone to PVE in PVP.
Yes I agree lock the PVEr's out on low pop timezone play times
Sorry but people have the right to play during the prime time in their time zones. Just because NA is sleeping doesn't mean other time zones will have to drop PvP because "it's not fair" "it's exploiting a timezone". Seriously, no one revolves around the NA population. People from other timezones should not be deterred from pvp (or even nightcap if they got the numbers) just because NA is having beauty sleep.
LMAO I have no issue with PVP anytime, you are not defending that, you are defending PVE. What would be wrong with having a server that has PVP on those players own timezone so they can ACTUALLY PVP, oh that's right you are not really interested in that.0 -
Qyrk✭✭✭✭✭
✭sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »i Said making the keeps locked when the population is imbalanced
So basically, people from other time zones cannot cap a keep. This is a bit selfish as "these people" paid the same game and paid their subscription and SHOULD have the same equal access to the game.2 -
Qyrk✭✭✭✭✭
✭skwornub18_ESO wrote: »What would be wrong with having a server that has PVP on those players own timezone so they can ACTUALLY PVP
But that is not how PVP is developed at the moment. If you want that, talk to a developer to make everyone on your timezone be allocated a server.
Edited by Qyrk on October 5, 2014 9:22PM0 -
Cody✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »i like my idea better
so you like the idea of locking people out of PvP all because they are in a different time zone?
don't you think that is at least a tiny bit selfish?skwornub18_ESO wrote: »sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »i like my idea better
so you like the idea of locking people out of PvP all because they are in a different time zone?
don't you think that is at least a tiny bit selfish?
Your assumptions is wrong. He isn't asking to lock people out of PVP, he is asking to lock players who intentionally exploit a timezone to PVE in PVP.
Yes I agree lock the PVEr's out on low pop timezone play times
how are these "nightcappers" exploiting the time zone? is it their fault that they may be in day when we are in night?
I agree something needs to be done, but I don believe locking the keeps is the solutionEdited by Cody on October 5, 2014 9:25PM0 -
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✭✭✭sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »
when did i say anything about locking people out of pvp? Obviously you can't read. i Said making the keeps locked when the population is imbalanced and making people who home campaigns where they HAVE EVERY KEEP AND EVERY SCROLL lose their buffs.sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »i like my idea better
so you like the idea of locking people out of PvP all because they are in a different time zone?
don't you think that is at least a tiny bit selfish?
if you are going to insult my intelligence, it only proves how pathetic you are.
I said "lock out of PvP" because that is basically what would be happening. Do you think People come to cyrodill to solely do the quests in the towns? and to do scout missions all day?
locking the keeps down is not the solution in my opinion. one factions nighttime is another factions daytime.
I think we need to solve it without giving the middle finger to people that, just like you, pay a monthly sub fee.0 -
Blackthorn51✭✭✭Look people do absolutely have the right to play whenever they want/can. The problem is that people are playing. Its that at specific times a single faction has such an overcrowded population in comparison to the other two factions combined population. That is the big problem.
If one faction has 2 or 3x the population of another faction -Yes it should pop lock them early to ensure that numbers remain scaled. In case some of you forget you have a guest server for this reason. You want to PVP but your Home Server has a Lock and the other factions have 1 Bar? Go play on your guest server while you wait in line. Besides when one server has 3 bars and the other two factions each have 1 bar that is NOT PVP. That is PVDOOR.1 -
yeah ok.. i see i dont have to insult your intelligence.. You dont have any.sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »
when did i say anything about locking people out of pvp? Obviously you can't read. i Said making the keeps locked when the population is imbalanced and making people who home campaigns where they HAVE EVERY KEEP AND EVERY SCROLL lose their buffs.sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »i like my idea better
so you like the idea of locking people out of PvP all because they are in a different time zone?
don't you think that is at least a tiny bit selfish?
if you are going to insult my intelligence, it only proves how pathetic you are.
I said "lock out of PvP" because that is basically what would be happening. Do you think People come to cyrodill to solely do the quests in the towns? and to do scout missions all day?
locking the keeps down is not the solution in my opinion. one factions nighttime is another factions daytime.
I think we need to solve it without giving the middle finger to people that, just like you, pay a monthly sub fee.
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Oh and by the way North America is for north american players. No EU or the rest of the world. So if you not from MURICA you can wait util we log on or go do dailies in cropsford or whatever town is closest.sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »
when did i say anything about locking people out of pvp? Obviously you can't read. i Said making the keeps locked when the population is imbalanced and making people who home campaigns where they HAVE EVERY KEEP AND EVERY SCROLL lose their buffs.sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »i like my idea better
so you like the idea of locking people out of PvP all because they are in a different time zone?
don't you think that is at least a tiny bit selfish?
if you are going to insult my intelligence, it only proves how pathetic you are.
I said "lock out of PvP" because that is basically what would be happening. Do you think People come to cyrodill to solely do the quests in the towns? and to do scout missions all day?
locking the keeps down is not the solution in my opinion. one factions nighttime is another factions daytime.
I think we need to solve it without giving the middle finger to people that, just like you, pay a monthly sub fee.
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Nox_Aeterna✭✭✭✭✭
✭sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »
Oh and by the way North America is for north american players. No EU or the rest of the world. So if you not from MURICA you can wait util we log on or go do dailies in cropsford or whatever town is closest.sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »
when did i say anything about locking people out of pvp? Obviously you can't read. i Said making the keeps locked when the population is imbalanced and making people who home campaigns where they HAVE EVERY KEEP AND EVERY SCROLL lose their buffs.sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »i like my idea better
so you like the idea of locking people out of PvP all because they are in a different time zone?
don't you think that is at least a tiny bit selfish?
if you are going to insult my intelligence, it only proves how pathetic you are.
I said "lock out of PvP" because that is basically what would be happening. Do you think People come to cyrodill to solely do the quests in the towns? and to do scout missions all day?
locking the keeps down is not the solution in my opinion. one factions nighttime is another factions daytime.
I think we need to solve it without giving the middle finger to people that, just like you, pay a monthly sub fee.
Pfff keep believing that mate , a pity you will never understand why your idea didnt get implemented , but honestly , who cares if you dont anyway :P?Edited by Nox_Aeterna on October 20, 2014 5:19PM"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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Winnower✭✭✭✭"i taunt you a second time!" came to mind as i read the initial post. It can't be a good sign to have Monty Python be a standard for taking Keeps.VR14 Templar, VR14 DK, VR8 DK, VR7 NB, VR1 Sorcerer;
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