Considering the entire point of the Pact is that they're fighting against a common enemy that's a greater threat to them than their individual issues, is it really so crazy that the real world players would band together, across factions, to do the same once in a while?

Bananas and tomatoes have worked together in the past too. Deal with it.

Yes it is. The collaboration can only occur out of game. I am sure their are a lot of people playing that don't wish to be affected by the decisions of a select group of people to achieve their own ends contrary to the story of the game. You join a faction and you are expected to show loyalty to that faction that is what makes this game work. If subterfuge was to be a feature then it should be open for all to participate in the decision processes. No one has the right to decide for me as a Red faction player if Red and Blue will align. Maybe a free for all map would suit players that don't like the follow the basic rules approach?

apostate9 wrote: »

chipputer wrote: »

Considering the entire point of the Pact is that they're fighting against a common enemy that's a greater threat to them than their individual issues, is it really so crazy that the real world players would band together, across factions, to do the same once in a while?

Agreed. This just blows me away when I see people get all bent about it. IT IS A WAR SIM. In war, you do what is strategically sound for your side, you don't have to promise to distribute your hostility equally among every enemy. It doesn't work that way. Some folks get so fired up about the Green Team or the Orange Team, blah blah blah.

Get over it.

You are required to follow your sides rules of engagement.
And who gave you, me, anybody the right to decide what those rules are, or, what is strategically sound for every other player in the faction? I don't recall being consulted. It sounds to me like they are only doing what is good for them. It isn't a WAR SIM, it is an online role playing game that requires co-operative teamwork to achieve a designated outcome

As for "nobody has the right to force you blah blah blah," you're absolutely right. But this is a tactical, team based PVP game. No one also has the right to force you to go for scrolls when you'd rather go for keeps, but if everyone in your faction is going for scrolls, you'd be a moron (and a terrible team player) to show up alone at a keep and start attacking it just because that's what you wanted to do.

You're part of a team. Be part of the team. Instead of getting bent out of shape that you can't effectively attack the DC, go attack the AD with everyone else.[/quote]
Red is a team, Blue is a team, Yellow is a team.
Red and Blue together is not a team. Even a moron can understand that.
If a faction collaboration was to be part of the game then it would be incorporated into the game, not done in an off sight arena. The fact that these factions are to weak to stand on their own and then you blame yellow for that weakness shows a real lack of character
The fact that some people consider Guild loyalty is more important than faction loyalty indicates that this game is on the slide to nowhere.
And don't forget. It is just a game. So I don't understand why playing by the rules is so hard..

Koensol wrote: »

One of the great things about 3 faction warfare happened OP. Don't QQ, it happens to all when one alliance becomes too strong.

Yup back when it was patch 1.0 or 1.1, I still remember that yellow and red was basically teaming up against the blues in the server I was playing on, I still remember seeing in zone, where someone say 'Don't attack the reds, we have a deal with them, they get emp, while we get the scrolls.'. I was still in the 20s than.

Try Thornblade. I haven't been to buff servers(Haderus, iirc, is AD buff server), but on Thorn DC and AD seem to team up a lot there, and I have yet to see EP teaming up with anyone.

Let me guess, you use Haderus as a buff server for your PvE toon, and youre mad that Hijinx and No Mercy wrecked your day

jeevin wrote: »

Everyone is against the awesomeness that is the Dominion. It's because we're better. It's as simple as that

Yeah, that's why I see a little group of a dozen DC take on 50+ AD on Haderus each time I do a bit of PvP. The only reason AD keeps all the keeps is because they have three time more players zerging on their side.

Should that number be balanced, AD would probably be left without a single scroll or keep while DC would humiliate them by pushing any attempts to leave up their own gates.

Palidon wrote: »

tagigan wrote: »

I played as a V8 Nightblade in the yellow faction. Being a NB sucks so I thought I'll start a new character as a sorceror in the red faction. New character, new faction, sounds fair to me. Get to level 14, think to myself, I'll go have a look around Cyrodiil as a red. On the Haderus map, see reds are attacking a yellow fort and pop down for a look. F#ck me dead, Red and Blue are fighting side by side. Maybe I am naive but I think it's crap. Tried to target the blue players but being a level 14 it was like hitting with a feather. This sort of joint co-operation ruins the game in my opinion.
I've seen it occur at a singular level before but not on such a large scale. There's something dishonest about it.

Well enter the Thornblade campaign and you will have the AD and DC against the Ebonheart Pact. Of course they cannot win unless they combine since going up against the Ebonheart Pact one on one they are defeated time and time again.

Is this before or after EP crosses alessia bridge and wipes at alessia front door for the eleventh time in a day?

jeevin wrote: »

Everyone is against the awesomeness that is the Dominion. It's because we're better. It's as simple as that

LOL. The fact that AD greatly out numbers either of the other factions has nothing to do with their decision to team up? It's a popular QQ over in the alliance war forums.

Everything is fair in love and war. And this just so happens to be war.

tagigan wrote: »

The fact that some people consider Guild loyalty is more important than faction loyalty indicates that this game is on the slide to nowhere.
And don't forget. It is just a game. So I don't understand why playing by the rules is so hard..

Guild loyalty vs pact loyalty....So guilds that play together and have fun instead of saying "sorry bro, your shirt is the wrong color, I can't play with you" indicates the game is on the slide to nowhere?

If this were a real war, enemies work together all the time to destroy a common foe, that is simply the way the world works. But being that this is just a game, why would you not simply enjoy the game as much as you can with your guildmates?

I'd say if anything you are taking the game way too seriously.