Great suggestion.

Agreed!

Fix the Lag... for my other vote. Make the game work for what we pay our subscription fee for. It is a beautiful game... it needs to work right for the subscription fee paid.

PolskiBunny_ESO wrote: »

I felt compelled to vote for what was being biased against.

A poll should be written neutrally. Otherwise it's not really a poll.

Yes granted I was heated when I wrote this, and I shouldn't have worded it like that. I can't seem to figure out how to change the poll options though. Anyways, I think it would be redundant to repost the whole thing, so hopefully we can still discuss the intended point as well?

PvP buffs should be limited to the PvP campaign whereas the player made their home campaign. They should not exist outside of the campaign IMO...period.

I question the use of buffs as a reward at all. You have highly dedicated, highly capable players getting together to form high powered guilds playing mostly against above average to average and casual players. It is already out of balance. Why provide power buffs to the already powerful? Isn’t the logical path to a fun and meaningful fight to buff the underdog closer to the accomplished players so that there is a more fair fight?

You know there is a problem when the player base responds by creating their own buffs to go against the buffed leaders of a campaign, by going into another server and taking it over as their own buff server. This is clearly an attempt to overcome the imbalance of the buff system.

The problem is that now all of the servers are locked down by each alliance as a buff server and the rest of us can’t play the game as it was intended. Any attempt to take a keep on a buff server is met with 6 to 10 players wiping you clean with the power of a full zerg. So many players try to play and after a few wipes they’re done with it. The multiple campaign servers end up just serving the players on Thornblade.

The buffs need to be replaced with material rewards, gold, AP, your name in lights. But not buffed gear as that would have a similar effect. While some of these elite players may think the rewards are not worth it and maybe even move on to other games, the servers would start to function as intended and more players would be able to play and in more fair and relatively equal fights. Which I think would be better for the ongoing success of the game than this locked down buff server system that we have today.

I do like the idea discussed above of making rewards for guilds that successfully defend keeps. There could be rewards for the longest undefeated runs as well as the most time in possession for the duration of the campaign (this would allow for the occasional loss and then retaking of a keep). But the rewards should be material, not buffs. The majority of the rewards should go to those who participated in the effort, with lesser rewards going to other members. Perhaps insignias for their tabards and gold into the guild bank.

This having whole servers locked down by an alliance for the sole purpose of defeated the buff gains of the winning side in Thornblade needs to stop. It is the player base proving that buffing the winning side and allowing carry over buffs is bad game design.

Stx wrote: »

Just remove PvP buffs from PvE, simple as that.

Stx wrote: »

I don't like your suggestion, and your poll options are so biased its funny.

Just remove PvP buffs from PvE, simple as that.

Yes yes you are correct I addressed that above.

I personally agree with you, but the Dev's pushed back very hard against the idea of removing PVP Buffs from PvE at the Guild Summit. And so, this was an attempt at a compromise they might consider.

zbtiqua wrote: »

I propose the following:

PVP Buffs remain active everywhere. However, in order to qualify for a leaderboard placement upon completion of an event, the group must "Opt-in" to a leaderboard run through an NPC, and doing so removes ALL external buffs while inside that instance only.

This means that groups can still complete all content, including hard modes, with PVP Buffs, and get loot. The only difference is that runs with external buffs wouldn't place them on the competitive leaderboards.

Great suggestion!

Vizier wrote: »

PvP buffs should be limited to the PvP campaign whereas the player made their home campaign. They should not exist outside of the campaign IMO...period.

I agree, I understand where they are coming from with the buffs it is suppose to be a faction pride thing, and some pve people will take part to help get those buffs, but I don't think it is working out like that, pvp buffs in you home campaign and that's it.

zbtiqua wrote: »

I personally agree with you, but the Dev's pushed back very hard against the idea of removing PVP Buffs from PvE at the Guild Summit. And so, this was an attempt at a compromise they might consider.

Is there a transcript or something? I'd like to read their arguments against removing PvP buffs from PvE.

zbtiqua wrote: »

The team clearly explained that balancing end-game content is a difficult process that they are continuously working to improve. And, they recognized the imperfections with the leaderboard system, in that it is not an appropriate portrayal of performance if teams enter the encounter with different external buffs.

As I see it, all PvP buffs do is unnecessarily complicate these two things for them. Lock PvP buffs to the campaign they were earned in, and you have 1) less difficulties balancing content, 2) fair leaderboards, and as a bonus 3) vanquished the deranged idea of buff campaigns.