As far as I know they existed - or at least it's possible for the organisation to exist. It seems to pop in and out of power based on political happenings, so a Thalmor regime during the early days of this Aldmeri Dominion - if only as a secondary or tertiary force within the dominion - is possible. All of my explanation is ignoring the notion that the presence of the Thalmor in ESO is basically a "yes, the Thalmor had some sort of institution at this time" though.

There are Thalmor all over the AD in this game.

Perhaps these are the predecessors to the ones that got written about in the lore, but you interact with quite a few of the Thalmor in the game for quests

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Thalmor_(Online)

The Thalmor in the training camp in Auridon are pretty ugly racists. They try to blame it on bad leadership and outside corruption by a Daedric prince, but they are all a little bit too comfortable with torturing and harassing Khajit and Bosmer.

I'm not looking forward to when my AD Altmer character will be expected to kill generic AD troops in VR zones, but slaughtering Thalmor forces will not be a problem for her.

The Thalmor are in ESO. But they are nothing like the future Thalmor. Rather, it's the Veiled Heritance that display many of the ideals the 4th era Thalmor exhibit.


And even more coincidentally... the Veiled Heritance follow the Same Daedric Prince... whose actions(Destroying Crystal Tower during TES Oblivion's time-line) gives birth to the 4th era Thalmor... whom display the same racial purist extremism the Veiled Heritance in ESO exhibit. Only difference is, the Veil is isolationist... the 4th era Thalmor are expansionist.


Could the 4th era Thalmor be Dagonites? Meh... Unlikely.

Could Dagon, the Daedric Prince of... Change, be cleverly planting the seeds of changing the paragons of Stasis, the Altmer? Very likely I think, yes.

By the 4th era, we have Altmer taking on the role of attempting conquest... and because of Crystal Tower's destruction, (due to Dagon's Daedric forces leading a massive assault on the tower) The Altmer lose the last... single... thing, that kept them Aldmeri... the... LAST bastion of Aldmeri identity. All of it burned to a crisp with the fall of the mythical tower that is Crystal-Like-Law.


The Thalmor of the 4th era, is the illustration of what happens when you change the Altmer. When you start imbuing them with Padhomaic qualities. What happens when they lose the Anuic qualities that King Auri-El tried to teach them, when he ascended to the heavens in front of Crystal Tower.



And Dagon didn't even have to eat anyone. Are you taking notes, Boethiah? lol

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

And even in ESO the Thalmor are stuck up ingrent racist troll bait basters who need to jump in lake Nible and get eaten by slaughter fish. Jjjuuusssttt saying.

No they aren't. Have you completed and listened to all dialogue of the AD questline? Because you clearly missed some very blatant details.

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO wrote: »

The Thalmor in the training camp in Auridon are pretty ugly racists. They try to blame it on bad leadership and outside corruption by a Daedric prince, but they are all a little bit too comfortable with torturing and harassing Khajit and Bosmer.

I'm not looking forward to when my AD Altmer character will be expected to kill generic AD troops in VR zones, but slaughtering Thalmor forces will not be a problem for her.

The College is taken over by the Veiled Heritance. Once you remove their corruption, the college is then put under true Thalmor control again. Where unless you mute dialogue, or you just skip the end quest dialogue and immediately fast travel to a city; you can see the College when actual Thalmor are in control, and not the Veiled Heritance.

The treatment is vastly different. Because what you see initially is not the Thalmor, rather it's the Veiled Heritance whom are... oddly enough... wearing the Veil... The Veiled Heritance wearing the Veil of the Thalmor? Crazy I know... But it's true... Perhaps you should revisit that quest and re-evaluate your assessment and understanding of that quest's resolution.

Mythredhel wrote: »

A guild member asked me a question about the Thalmor in ESO the other day and it intrigued me so I thought I would look into it and this is what I found
According to the wiki the elder scrolls online game is set in 2E 582 during the Interregnum

Again according to the wiki the Thalmor was the name of the provisional government set up by the Bosmer and the Altmer during the Second Aldmeri Dominion In the late First Era the ancestors of Camoran Anaxemes, heir to the Valenwood throne, made a pact with the Aldmeri Council in a treaty between Summerset and Valenwood. One thousand years later at the end of the Interregnum in 2E 830, the heirs of the Camoran Dynasty began to fight over the throne. One faction of Bosmer offered to give up territory to the Colovians of West Cyrodiil, in exchange for the support of their own claimant to the throne. The High Elves responded by establishing a provisional government, the Thalmor, on behalf of Camoran Anaxemes. The Colovians were quickly driven back by the Aldmeri army, and the other heirs to the throne were silenced. Camoran Anaxemes swore 50 years of allegiance to the King of Alinor for his support, and thus the Aldmeri Dominion was born.

now my question is if the game is set in 2E 582 and the Thalmor wasn't set up until 2E 830 why have I got a quest called Harsh Lesson about a collage set up by the Thalmor who according to the dates wont exist for another 300 years or am I reading this wrong

The wiki says they were created during the first era, this is the second era, were's the problem.

To me at least, the organizational body that goes by the name of "Thalmor" is merely an organization put up by Summerset (and her allies) as a formal extension/reflection of the political status being experienced at that time.

In ESO (when not under the influence of the Veiled Heritance) the Thalmor act as both diplomats and military agents to an extent and have members being from all allied races and (presumably) allows a certain amount of cultural flexibility amongst them. This is probably to fester good relations between internal groups as well as becoming a formidable force that can be used by the Dominion.

Conversely, the Thalmor met the 4th era were essentially borne from the political strife that came from the Oblivion Crisis and likely are the result of a province both reasonably scared, angry and shamed. I imagine the fall of the crystal tower meant more to them than a mere structure falling, it held a very prominent symbolic significance. Rising from this turmoil, and with certain forgotten embers of superiority rekindled, the Thalmor rose as the leading body of the Aldmeri Dominion who seemed drowned in the idea of mer superiority.

Again, this is at most a theory, but there you go.

Yes, there is even a Thalmor college in Auridion, that I'm sure most people know of if they played and listened during the AD story line, The queen even comments on them.

Zorrashi wrote: »

Conversely, the Thalmor met the 4th era were essentially borne from the political strife that came from the Oblivion Crisis and likely are the result of a province both reasonably scared, angry and shamed. I imagine the fall of the crystal tower meant more to them than a mere structure falling, it held a very prominent symbolic significance. Rising from this turmoil, and with certain forgotten embers of superiority rekindled, the Thalmor rose as the leading body of the Aldmeri Dominion who seemed drowned in the idea of mer superiority.

Someone who worked on skyrim said the fall of the tower was more than symbolic. The thalmor have a multiple prong plan to rewrite existance.

Thalmor Plan

1. Stop the worship of Talos.
2. Remove Talos from the fabric of Nirn (to make it so that Talos is incompatible with reality).
3. Unpin the Fabric of Reality (essentially destroy the various towers that pin down reality).
4. Rewrite existance so Mankind can't exist.

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

And even in ESO the Thalmor are stuck up ingrent racist troll bait basters who need to jump in lake Nible and get eaten by slaughter fish. Jjjuuusssttt saying.

That's applicable to pretty much every race/faction in TES.