My first question after reading your text was:"What does he mean?" (because of "kiosk")

Now I understand: You mean the bid-system for the guild merchants/traders.

Well at the beginning it was very funny for our guild to get one and sell a Iot of things to other players.

Since two weeks we don't get anyone. We bid 30.000 Gold, but it seems like this amount of gold is to low. Trader-Guilds are laughing about that, because they Can bid 100.000 Gold...

lecarcajou_ESO wrote: »

Still think "NO AH EVER" is a great concept?

I've never seen the supposed problems with a global AH. The only one I can think of right now is that trade guilds would become obsolete.

therasia2_ESO wrote: »

Okay so as a GM of a guild I have been bidding on the kiosks every week. My guild has only outbid a kiosk once and that was when the kiosk addition to the game came on the scene. I am investing allot of the guild banks funds and keep increasing the bid weekly......but.....still nothing. Are there plans to change the bidding mechanics? or I did read in another post about not posting the bid within the banks history or something of that nature as there are cheaters? why of course there are cheaters right?! anyhow....how does one go about actually winning a bid. What are you other guilds bidding? must be an awful lot of $$ .....Getting disappointing with the system and the results at this point:(

How much are you bidding and where?

Here is my rough estimation for the EU server:

• You can get the ones in the countryside for 100-500g
• You can get the ones in non-major cities for 1000-5000g
• You can get the ones in non-major trading hubs from 70k gold
• You can get the ones in major trading hubs from 170k gold

350members cant bring 200g (thats 4 sold white/green drops) to achieve 70k gold - poor lads ... you should start leaving your starter town their is so much to explore

It's time for an auction house. This game doesn't have a large enough playerbase to drive down the prices like they were afraid of when the game released. I'd be surprised if there are 100k players left.

Rodario wrote: »

Every trade discussion on this forum gives me an itch to go back to EVE. Every MMO wanting a player driven economy should just copy that system.

Um, maybe not copy exactly, but if it's good enough, certainly use it as a major influence.

therasia2_ESO wrote: »

spoqster wrote: »

therasia2_ESO wrote: »

Okay so as a GM of a guild I have been bidding on the kiosks every week. My guild has only outbid a kiosk once and that was when the kiosk addition to the game came on the scene. I am investing allot of the guild banks funds and keep increasing the bid weekly......but.....still nothing. Are there plans to change the bidding mechanics? or I did read in another post about not posting the bid within the banks history or something of that nature as there are cheaters? why of course there are cheaters right?! anyhow....how does one go about actually winning a bid. What are you other guilds bidding? must be an awful lot of $$ .....Getting disappointing with the system and the results at this point:(

How much are you bidding and where?

Here is my rough estimation for the EU server:

• You can get the ones in the countryside for 100-500g
• You can get the ones in non-major cities for 1000-5000g
• You can get the ones in non-major trading hubs from 70k gold
• You can get the ones in major trading hubs from 170k gold

Oh my, well if thats what it takes to get one no wonder we aren't......so many of my guild members have dropped out of the game. I've gone from 350 members to approx. 20 members over the past couple of months:( there is no way our guild brings in that kind of money. Thanks for your responses, and happy gaming. An auction house for us other broke guilds?

Are you on the EU server? You're welcome to bring all of your guildies over and join our Veterans Trading Guild. We still have a few spots left.

lecarcajou_ESO wrote: »

Still think "NO AH EVER" is a great concept?

Yes.

spoqster wrote: »

How much are you bidding and where?

Here is my rough estimation for the EU server:

• You can get the ones in the countryside for 100-500g
• You can get the ones in non-major cities for 1000-5000g
• You can get the ones in non-major trading hubs from 70k gold
• You can get the ones in major trading hubs from 170k gold

This matches what I believe to be the prices on the US server. Craglorn is the most expensive, I think.

Guild traders are actually working out pretty well for me. At least 1 trading guild where I am a member has a guild kiosk every week, and they don't pay a ton for it either - the ones in busy trading hubs are expensive, but others are cheap, if your guild does not have much cash go for one of those instead of an expensive one.

One trading guild I am in has got a guild kiosk out in the sticks for 100g for the last 2 weeks, and I have sold so much stuff that (not only did the guild make back the cost of the kiosk on the back of my mats sales alone) I made a donation back to the guild towards getting the trader in the future. Another guild I am in regularly gets a kiosk in a slightly busier place for 4 figures and makes that back during the week.

If you are spending more than you are making from having a guild kiosk then you are doing it wrong - if you can't afford a kiosk in a busy trade hub, then bid on one in a more remote area - paying 3 figures for a kiosk in the sticks is often better than paying 6 figures for one in a busy city, because you will easily make your money back in fees to the guild, and your members will sell items to people passing through questing and be happy.

Nestor wrote: »

Epona222 wrote: »

One trading guild I am in has got a guild kiosk out in the sticks for 100g for the last 2 weeks, and I have sold so much stuff that I made a donation back to the guild towards getting the trader in the future.

While the Kiosks in the cities will get more traffic, the kiosks out in the sticks are usually closer to the wayshrines that the ones in the cities are. So, it's no big deal to go around from WS to WS to check a few stores. No more so than running from a WS in a City to the trading area and then checking the 4 to 6 that they have there, then running back to the WS to go to another city.

I actually prefer to hit the ones in the boonies unless I happen to be in a city or town that has a cluster.

Agree, also because the kiosks are replicated in Vet areas, if you get a kiosk in one of the starter islands on a quest route, you naturally get lvl 1-6, VR1-2, and VR 4-6 traffic - it's not only newbies.

Darthryan wrote: »

so my above comment about 250mil was a joke so someone told two of my guilds on me and got me kicked out of them. so fyi dont say what your guild spends even if its such an insane figure.

Wow those Rawl guilds really put the fear of God into you, huh?

I read your original post and it very clearly said that one of the Rawl guilds you are in paid *250,000G* (not 250 million lol). And you are correct, one of the Rawl Guilds DID Pay 250,000 last week.

So you were just trying to give advice, you didn't even name the guild, you just stated a fact available to all 500 people in that guild well after the sale happened and *2* Rawl guilds booted you?

Maybe they're afraid more people will realize that kiosks in Rawl often go for that price (and even below 200,000) and they'll have some actual competition.