jkirchner71ub17_ESO2 wrote: »

I was there and oils were flowing so much BP would have been in awe struck And the players weren't scrubs, solid experienced PvPers working as a team. The flag flipped while we were still alive, tipping oils, purging, throwing caltrops, and dropping Ultimate's. Definitely sucked .

Were you at the Faregyl siege where red captured it on NA Thornblade on 10/11/14?

I think that siege illustrates right there everything wrong with both zerg flag flipping and the lag at large sieges. Everything went wrong for the defenders (though the attackers had their share of issues).

In the end a single ram, the only working siege in the building, determined the success of the siege. We (EP) put near 100 players on that front flag in the Nave of Faregyl and I was shocked the game didn't just poop itself and we didn't experience a Cyrodiil crash.

I could see AD players desperately trying to enter posterns to defend, but couldn't. I could see oils on the ground everywhere, but they couldn't be interacted with. I could see AD players plowing into the EP zerg with AOEs and doing, literally, nothing.

The AD players didn't even wipe until 3-5 minutes after the keep flipped, largely from the guards taking them down one at a time.

jkirchner71ub17_ESO2 wrote: »

Yes and OMG so much lag . Could have been one epic three alliance battle with both DC and EP converging on Fare and I doubt anyone, even the victors enjoyed the outcome as the lag was pathetic. I can't speak for anyone outside my TS but we couldn't do a damn thing . We had players stuck inside or outside and then "warping" in or out when the lag spike hit to then be stuck once again where they were.

The ram took 4 tries before it worked, walking sideways into the door each of the first three attempts. After that, we just stacked on it and walked it into the inner door. I could see oils set up, but not being used (obviously bugged). I saw AD players bomb the stack of EP (more appropriately - the stack of the entire EP faction on the campaign), and then melt as the game registered hits on them, but couldn't parse out which 6 of the 100 players their AOE hit.

We never had any other siege out, just the ram.

It took 10-15 minutes to clean every last AD out of that keep. The DC just left, we never even fought them off. They just dropped it and said 'Eff The Lag, I'm Out' and walked away when the gates opened. When they left, the lag started to truly lift.

Speaking as the victor -- no, I didn't enjoy it. It was dumb. It was a stupid, awful way to take the keep. The thing is, we have that level of garbage done to us at Blue Road or Chalman constantly and we have to resort to it to do anything huge like take Faregyl.

We wanted (and tried repeatedly) to take the whole southern wall down, all three segments, but our ballistas kept bugging out and we couldn't keep shooting at the walls. It eventually got repaired and we went 10+ minutes with not a single siege engine we put down from our entire faction working.

That's when we tried the ram, since it didn't require an operator.

Kirsika wrote: »

Didn't even have to be at fargyle that night, this is what was happening out in the middle of nowhere -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KshsQBBnA4c

Yeah, the entire campaign was lagged due to that fight.

There are many nights if I see a faction backed up to their Keystone keep (Arrius, Glade, Fare), I won't even bother playing in Thornblade. Time to go farm elsewhere. It'll be a bad night on TB.

HAHA! Most of Venatus was at that front "porch" and we had to resort to only AOEs to do what we thought was damage to the EP at the door. Funny as NONE of the NPCs in this game seem to experience what the paying customers do in Cyrodiil. They were flying around diligently doing their jobs and we see this when the lag fest is anywhere at a keep. NPCs seem to enjoy a lag free gaming experience while the paying customer suffers - just saying.

Kirsika wrote: »

NPCs never crash either.

OMG now you adding salt to the wound - OUCH

We already have a nuke skill, it's called Sea of Healing Springs. It places a lag dot on all ppl in Cyrodiil and when the effect ends it crashes the server, unless those channeling it get purged by crashing themselves.

This won't be a problem when they fix oil. You and your 4 friends will die as you should to 50 people.