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I feel bad for AD, like really bad

  • Gaettusk
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    It could happen if you wish hard enough. Faith trust and pixie dust, bro. #PowerofBelief

    Oh? Sounds like you're volunteering to reroll EP or DC. Thanks
  • WraithAzraiel
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    Sure, I'll even pick up my family and move to the Oceanic timezone.
    Shendell De'Gull - V14 Vampire Nightblade

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    "There's no such thing as overkill..."

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  • Gaettusk
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    Sure, I'll even pick up my family and move to the Oceanic timezone.

    K, make sure you read a book. Knowledge is power,brochacho

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlKL_EpnSp8
  • Durham
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    I will try to summarize AD problem quickly so other factions understand it.

    1. Que time is over an hour in prime time and they are almost always pop locked

    2. they cant play with friends due to that que time. half the group in and the other half need an hour to get in, the first half will get tired of dying and log off before 2nd half join them.

    3. even if they get to pvp they struggle to find enemy even on the most populated campaign, and when they find them they get very little AP because you know, 5 on 1 will get you low ap

    4. people tease them on forums and ask them to reroll, but they dont want to invest long hours leveling an alt on DC or EP. totally understand

    5. when they do finally get in the campaign, rush hours have ended and they have to siege the wall and fight the guards.

    Solutions:

    1. keep DC and EP cap at 200 and make AD pop cap at 500. god knows they could use less Que times

    2. give AD more AP for kiling enemy

    3. introduce night guard systems, guards that spawn at night times when DC and EP go to sleep, they behave like players and they do stupid ***. you know, to keep the AD occupied.



    problem solved, you are all welcome ^_~

    Get ready gor 2345311 re-roll posts... due to the fact that most people play in groups it means the whole group re-rolling thats hard to do....
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  • WraithAzraiel
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    You got it, bromigo
    Shendell De'Gull - V14 Vampire Nightblade

    Captain of the Black Howling

    "There's no such thing as overkill..."

    "No problem on the face of the Earth exists what can't be fixed with the proper application of enough duct tape and 550 cord."

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  • Cody
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    if you are annoyed by the long queue time, go to a different server. people keep telling y'all this because this would fix your queue time problem instantly. get some AD guilds together, and go to chillrend. dethrone whichever alliance owns it, then you will have created a new competitive server!!!!!!! amazing right?
    Edited by Cody on October 12, 2014 9:26PM
  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    You know what I'll say, so I won't even say it.

    AD players know what needs to be done to fix their broken queue times and the terrible faction imbalances.

    They won't.

    BECAUSE IT'S TOO HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD.

    It's so much less fun to do than sit in that queue staring at an empty gate on Haderus hoping for some fights.

    Until you do what needs to be done, suffer.
    Edited by Agrippa_Invisus on October 12, 2014 9:41PM
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  • Teargrants
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    I'd just like to add that my NB and I make a point of ganking as many bananas as possible, especially sub vet ones. What we hope is to discourage them from ever returning to Cyrodiil on AD side and thus help solve the pop imbalance. o:)
    Edited by Teargrants on October 12, 2014 10:34PM
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  • Hand_Banana
    Hail travelers! AD oceanic players are bads end of story!

    Who wants to get naked and lay in a pile?

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    NO MERCY #1
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  • WraithAzraiel
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    AAAAAAAAAND sexual harassment.
    Shendell De'Gull - V14 Vampire Nightblade

    Captain of the Black Howling

    "There's no such thing as overkill..."

    "No problem on the face of the Earth exists what can't be fixed with the proper application of enough duct tape and 550 cord."

    P2PBetaTesters
    #Tamriel_BETA_Team
    #BETA_TESTER4LYF
    DominionMasterRace
    #GOAHEADTHEYGOTCANDY
    #SEEMSLEGIT
  • Schmit
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    1. keep DC and EP cap at 200 and make AD pop cap at 500. god knows they could use less Que times

    .... have one faction a population cap that is more then BOTH other factions population cap combined? That is foolishness.
  • WraithAzraiel
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    The OP's statement was meant to be patronizing and insulting. Not a serious suggestion.

    Shendell De'Gull - V14 Vampire Nightblade

    Captain of the Black Howling

    "There's no such thing as overkill..."

    "No problem on the face of the Earth exists what can't be fixed with the proper application of enough duct tape and 550 cord."

    P2PBetaTesters
    #Tamriel_BETA_Team
    #BETA_TESTER4LYF
    DominionMasterRace
    #GOAHEADTHEYGOTCANDY
    #SEEMSLEGIT
  • Hand_Banana
    What he said :dizzy_face:
    KING OF DRAKELOWE
    NO MERCY #1
    #FREEBRAIDAS
    ***Nameious***
  • Karamis_Vimardon
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    Schmit wrote: »
    1. keep DC and EP cap at 200 and make AD pop cap at 500. god knows they could use less Que times

    .... have one faction a population cap that is more then BOTH other factions population cap combined? That is foolishness.

    I'm sorry, it just had to be done :astonished:

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  • Columba
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    as a faction that prides itself on impulse chimpanzee spamming, it's pretty understandable that ad don't know how to reduce their queue times.
  • WarrioroftheWind_ESO
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    Columba wrote: »
    as a faction that prides itself on impulse chimpanzee spamming, it's pretty understandable that ad don't know how to reduce their queue times.

    Solution: have some gutsy strong EP and DC factions take keeps strategically to reduce bonuses. Impulse chimpanzees come to throw *** around there until they bury their enemies in a mountain of ***. Rinse and repeat (literally).

    It's mind boggling how many new names I've been seeing just this week alone. The sad thing is the 'native' population on AD site kinda feels diminished. Sucks cuz they got some strong players...that are very gratifying to kill repeatedly ;)
  • Nidwin
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    Poor bees.
    It's of course always easier to blame those poor bees for your own mistakes.

    I've one question for you, thar bees.
    Outside prime-time (EU player on NA Thornblade) AD seems somewhat slow to move from action to action, especially after a successfully keep defense on your side. Takes often 15-20 mins for you guys and gals to show up somewhere on the map. Just wondering.
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  • Armitas
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    We have 4 servers to play on. People saw fit to make 3 buff servers, leaving 1 over populated server to play on that is at times unplayable.

    We can solve the long queue times on Thornblade right now at this very moment. All we need is for people to man up and fight without buffs by going to one of the 3 buff servers. That doesn't mean leaving thornblade to go to your own buff server that means manning up and going to someone elses buff server and fighting uphill.

    I propose a cessation of all the forum Epeen until people start manning up and leaving their buff servers behind. There is nothing manly or admirable about ruining 3 servers resulting in 1 broken server just to account for Trial and PvP insecurity.
    Edited by Armitas on October 13, 2014 4:21PM
    Retired.
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  • Huntler
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    Columba wrote: »
    as a faction that prides itself on impulse chimpanzee spamming, it's pretty understandable that ad don't know how to reduce their queue times.

    Every faction does it
  • Milf_Hero
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    One of the campaigns I played in, a whiiiiiiile back was won by the DC for using zergs. Then near the end of that campaign the zergs began to adopt the impulse, talon, skirt wearing monkey mentality. Its just the way of the times. AD does it. Dc Does it. EP does it. Zergs, and these hard core pvpers will do whatever it takes to kill the other teams. Smash them into the ground with no mercy. That's just the way it is. If they are able to take an inch, we will go not only the mile, but all the way to the enemies home and kill and "take advantage" their children and women.(I censored that a little. lol.) There isn't a soft core pvp, well maybe for people that aren't vets. If your a vet though, you need to get with the times. If your are not above vr10 do not think about doing anything other than sitting in the back and throwing out ranged abilities and healing. Use your siege weapons and oil all day long. In cryodiil its go big or go home. Cut throat, dog eat dog. Coming out at night while ppl are asleep, zerging and hosting those pvp events for your 300+ vr14(grinded in craglorn, like a true mmo player. -.-) pvp dedicated guild and Butt eff ppl relentlessly. setting up camp past the enemies gates and killing every single last person that jumps off the wall of their little safe zone. Oh that's the stuff for some ppl out there. Ain't nothing better. So yeah, say things are unfair. Say hey Zenimax, this *** is OP and totally gay. And not the girl on girl action that we all love type of gay. (totally apologize for the vulgarity of this post.)

    This is what people like to do. Convert to the latest and greatest cheap tactic, OP build that will make you a super god, and use underhanded tactics to give you the upper hand. Only way to fix this is to add variety. Buff other skills, change em up a little, and add a few more even. Maybe a little nerfing on that 5 light, staff, sword and board, sorc/dk/Templar, or whatever every one is using atm. Just to discourage Every pvper to do the same thing, and to pick up and try the added new stuff or a combination of things to make their own unique build. The thing right now is that there is only one right way to do thing. If you don't do that thing, your *** outta luck. One way to do things is not enough. It needs to change, and change constantly. This will keep the game from getting stale. Every type of character, NB, DK, Sorc, Temp, should have their day in the spot lot. Or a way to have some spotlight time. If its ever changing it will encourage people to make new character, and like I said before, try new things with their existing characters. Itemization, customization, abiliti-zation . MORE STUFF, MORE SKILLZ, JUST MORE. You can never go wrong with more. The only time you can go wrong with more, is when you are headed to a place that requires you to pack light. This isn't one of those times.... You never pack light for an MMO.
    Edited by Milf_Hero on October 13, 2014 5:27PM
    You name it, and ill kill it.
  • Columba
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    Huntler wrote: »
    Columba wrote: »
    as a faction that prides itself on impulse chimpanzee spamming, it's pretty understandable that ad don't know how to reduce their queue times.

    Every faction does it
    I agree. I avoid these impulse monkey spammers on my own faction as well. Cheap tactic that ruins pvp in my opinion. Just not fun, given how badly it locks up the game.

  • OrangeTheCat
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    Just means we are awesome and people want to hang with the winners. Go AD!
  • sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO
    i can say this. I played on Auriels bow Where ADs population was locked to full.


    I laugh everytime i hear AD say we cant get into the campaign. wah wah wah.

    You all suck and are nothing but night capping bads and every AD faction scrub fanboy knew when Elites guards players from EP woke up we steamrolled you all the way back to your temples, stole your scrolls and kept you all on lockdown. If it wasnt for Zenimax's initial screw up of this games launch, and ignorance of pvp balance we would still be steam rolling you all.


    AD Loved to glitch with the scrolls when they got steamrolled on Auriels bow, in Cheydinhal





    Edited by sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO on October 16, 2014 12:23PM
  • Vilestride
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    I don't understand.....you people actually took that OP as serious feedback?


    So much mindless rabble, let me summarize this as a DC player perspective, being as non bias as possible

    AD impulse groups: If you think AD are the only faction to do this. Your wrong. What a mindless comment. Certain AD groups are simply more renowned for it. Probably because they do it better TBH from my experience.

    Keeping this in mind, you can nerf the build all you want, but the best guilds are always going to find the most effective way to kill you and *** it, Nerf this and they'll just do the next best thing whatever that may be, and then you will complain about that.

    The biggest issue with this build is the lag that it causes, this is what needs to be addressed the most. I understand that being rolled by people with this tactic or having to use it yourself is not very fun, and i do agree that more equivalent builds need to be available. but how you can blame the players for these problems really doesn't make sense to me.


    Population issues


    Pay to change alliance is something that needs to be considered..or, Flexible Pop locks so that AD cant outnumber the other factions, especially over the Oceanic prime time. Pop issues are IMO the biggest let down for PvP atm, and its demoralizing to be so outnumbered all the time.

    The Lack of having equal Oceanic populations makes it incredibly hard for EP or DC to win campaigns.

  • Vilestride
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    What ESO PvP needs more than anything is an element of Prestige. Being in a top guild doesn't feel like it means a thing in large scale PvP battles through cyrodil. What PvP needs is organised and ranked 8v8-12v12 guild wars in arena type environments to separate Pick up Groups from real guilds.
  • DaggerfallTradeMasters
    I will try to summarize AD problem quickly so other factions understand it.

    1. Que time is over an hour in prime time and they are almost always pop locked

    2. they cant play with friends due to that que time. half the group in and the other half need an hour to get in, the first half will get tired of dying and log off before 2nd half join them.

    3. even if they get to pvp they struggle to find enemy even on the most populated campaign, and when they find them they get very little AP because you know, 5 on 1 will get you low ap

    4. people tease them on forums and ask them to reroll, but they dont want to invest long hours leveling an alt on DC or EP. totally understand

    5. when they do finally get in the campaign, rush hours have ended and they have to siege the wall and fight the guards.

    Solutions:

    1. keep DC and EP cap at 200 and make AD pop cap at 500. god knows they could use less Que times

    2. give AD more AP for kiling enemy

    3. introduce night guard systems, guards that spawn at night times when DC and EP go to sleep, they behave like players and they do stupid ***. you know, to keep the AD occupied.



    problem solved, you are all welcome ^_~

    Oke like wtf? why give them more people that is really unfair and that with AP as well.
    perhaps give them more enemies?=more AP ;)
    No but serious just let some AD guys reroll a whole campaign not a character.
  • Leovolao
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    i can say this. I played on Auriels bow Where ADs population was locked to full.


    I laugh everytime i hear AD say we cant get into the campaign. wah wah wah.

    You all suck and are nothing but night capping bads and every AD faction scrub fanboy knew when Elites guards players from EP woke up we steamrolled you all the way back to your temples, stole your scrolls and kept you all on lockdown. If it wasnt for Zenimax's initial screw up of this games launch, and ignorance of pvp balance we would still be steam rolling you all.


    AD Loved to glitch with the scrolls when they got steamrolled on Auriels bow, in Cheydinhal





    This is funny especially because it took you guys 3 bars population to get us out of Azura.
    tea pot


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  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    Leovolao wrote: »
    i can say this. I played on Auriels bow Where ADs population was locked to full.


    I laugh everytime i hear AD say we cant get into the campaign. wah wah wah.

    You all suck and are nothing but night capping bads and every AD faction scrub fanboy knew when Elites guards players from EP woke up we steamrolled you all the way back to your temples, stole your scrolls and kept you all on lockdown. If it wasnt for Zenimax's initial screw up of this games launch, and ignorance of pvp balance we would still be steam rolling you all.


    AD Loved to glitch with the scrolls when they got steamrolled on Auriels bow, in Cheydinhal



    This is funny especially because it took you guys 3 bars population to get us out of Azura.

    Those bars apparently all came from PVE land (ie: PVP derps) and didn't go to Thorn after they left Azura's either. Thorn population remained roughly what it was and the Azura's red vanished.
    Edited by Agrippa_Invisus on October 16, 2014 2:18PM
    Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
    DragonKnight / Templar / Warden / Sorcerer - Vagabond
    Once a General, now a Citizen
    Former Emperor of Bloodthorn and Vivec
    For Sweetrolls! FOR FIMIAN!
  • Huntler
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    Leovolao wrote: »
    i can say this. I played on Auriels bow Where ADs population was locked to full.


    I laugh everytime i hear AD say we cant get into the campaign. wah wah wah.

    You all suck and are nothing but night capping bads and every AD faction scrub fanboy knew when Elites guards players from EP woke up we steamrolled you all the way back to your temples, stole your scrolls and kept you all on lockdown. If it wasnt for Zenimax's initial screw up of this games launch, and ignorance of pvp balance we would still be steam rolling you all.


    AD Loved to glitch with the scrolls when they got steamrolled on Auriels bow, in Cheydinhal



    This is funny especially because it took you guys 3 bars population to get us out of Azura.

    Those bars apparently all came from PVE land (ie: PVP derps) and didn't go to Thorn after they left Azura's either. Thorn population remained roughly what it was and the Azura's red vanished.

    Thats sorta true. I obviously can't prove this, but when we were starting to hit azura's last night EP was locked in Thorn (it was tri locked) while azuras was 1 bar for each side. In the height of the triple bar EP population that went to azuras (while I am sure many were PvErs...given how bad they were getting farmed) Thorn's EP population dropped and was briefly at 2 bars then bumped up to 3. My assumption is once any that came from Thorn felt safe enough that azuras was starting to go back to full Red, they switched back. Once again just my presumption, but we kept checking the pops so we had an idea what to expect.
  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    Huntler wrote: »
    Leovolao wrote: »
    i can say this. I played on Auriels bow Where ADs population was locked to full.


    I laugh everytime i hear AD say we cant get into the campaign. wah wah wah.

    You all suck and are nothing but night capping bads and every AD faction scrub fanboy knew when Elites guards players from EP woke up we steamrolled you all the way back to your temples, stole your scrolls and kept you all on lockdown. If it wasnt for Zenimax's initial screw up of this games launch, and ignorance of pvp balance we would still be steam rolling you all.


    AD Loved to glitch with the scrolls when they got steamrolled on Auriels bow, in Cheydinhal



    This is funny especially because it took you guys 3 bars population to get us out of Azura.

    Those bars apparently all came from PVE land (ie: PVP derps) and didn't go to Thorn after they left Azura's either. Thorn population remained roughly what it was and the Azura's red vanished.

    Thats sorta true. I obviously can't prove this, but when we were starting to hit azura's last night EP was locked in Thorn (it was tri locked) while azuras was 1 bar for each side. In the height of the triple bar EP population that went to azuras (while I am sure many were PvErs...given how bad they were getting farmed) Thorn's EP population dropped and was briefly at 2 bars then bumped up to 3. My assumption is once any that came from Thorn felt safe enough that azuras was starting to go back to full Red, they switched back. Once again just my presumption, but we kept checking the pops so we had an idea what to expect.

    I must have missed it going down to 2. As I mentioned in another thread, I was mostly in PVE land with an alt, taking a night off from actually doing PVP myself. I was only checking populations every 20-30 minutes or so. Though my alt (since he's homed to AZ for buffs) was getting spammed by Tripwyr every 20 seconds or so. :P

    I know most of our organized guilds stayed on Thornblade (Vokundein was heavy over there, as I think was Phoenix Rising). I think IR made a showing on Azura's (the red shirt guys), but that's about it.
    Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
    DragonKnight / Templar / Warden / Sorcerer - Vagabond
    Once a General, now a Citizen
    Former Emperor of Bloodthorn and Vivec
    For Sweetrolls! FOR FIMIAN!
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