Maintenance for the week of April 6:
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – April 6
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – April 6
Impulse nerf
"reduced radius of impulse to 6 meters from 8"
Area of 8 meter circle.
Area of 6 meter circle.
As one can see quite clearly without having to on one's own do piR^2 thanks to google. This is nerfing the aoe of impulse by almost half.
One word. EXCESSIVE.
Area of 8 meter circle.
Area of 6 meter circle.
As one can see quite clearly without having to on one's own do piR^2 thanks to google. This is nerfing the aoe of impulse by almost half.
One word. EXCESSIVE.
30
-
stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Taking a spammable instant-cast ability that is more powerful than anything else and reducing its range somewhat, while keeping the damage? Does not sound excessive to me. Not in the least.
Edited by stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO on October 15, 2014 12:28PM22 -
r.jan_emailb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Nerfing AoE by half? Impulse never hit everyone inside the area covered by the AoE, because, you know, capped at 6 targets. Only thing this changes:
1. Groups that are more spread out don't get as much damage from this skill as before. Why? Because it is more likeley that the 8m radius would hit 6 targets than the 6m radius; you're right, this is a nerf.
2. Related to this, the damage will be more focused. When a bombsquad goes zergdiving, they will be able to kill people next to them faster. Why? Because with a smaller radius, you can more easily make sure that everyone hits the same targets, so the damage is less spread out. If there would be 10+ players inside the 8m radius, they could probably survive. Now there are only 6 inside the 6m radius, and those 6 die, because everyone of them gets hit by every attacker.
In my opinion, this is even better for coordinated groups. It's far from being excessive, it just requires a bit more thought than before.Edited by r.jan_emailb16_ESO on October 15, 2014 1:45PMLairgren | DC Dragonknight - August Palatine
playing for eXile
I'm done, CU somewhere else.6 -
It is a PvP nerf. Players are likely to run away from an AoE spammer.
Not much change for PvE though, since mobs tend to run closer to an AoE spammer. You might get stragglers sometimes if they are ranged and don't run towards you, but that was a problem even with an 8m radius.4 -
Chufu✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I think that nerf was just too small, it doesn't prevent really the zerging in PvP.
I don't think that 2 Meters can make the difference... the AoE-Spammers can spam anyway, they just have to come 2 meters closer to the "spammed" guys.Edited by Chufu on October 15, 2014 12:51PM- @OrcTalk on Twitter
- ESO-Skillfactory.com[EN/DE/FR] Skillplanner/Skillplaner/Planificateur de compétences
3 -
Origin✭✭✭And what happened with the ZOS statement that they are enhancing the less effective skills instead of nerfing the good ones?
5 -
Welka✭✭✭✭✭That's what they're doing. They still need to nerf the OP and game breaking ones. I use impulse and its obvious how OP it is. Block > spam impulse > throw batswarm for vamps > reduce your foes health by 20% > watch players fall like flies and refilling your mana and ultimate > rinse and repeat...
This ability begs for a nerfEdited by Welka on October 15, 2014 1:47PM8 -
Thechemicals✭✭✭✭✭PLayers already affected by impulse/pulsar effects recieve 15% less damage from further impulse attacks. Your welcome.Vr14 Templar since release- dual resto
Vr14 Dk bow/2h
Brayan Blackthunder
Goddick
Daggerfall Covenant0 -
Welka✭✭✭✭✭Thechemicals wrote: »PLayers already affected by impulse/pulsar effects recieve 15% less damage from further impulse attacks. Your welcome.
Since when?2 -
maxilaub17_ESO✭✭✭mousekime111rwb17_ESO wrote: »"reduced radius of impulse to 6 meters from 8"
Area of 8 meter circle.
Area of 6 meter circle.
As one can see quite clearly without having to on one's own do piR^2 thanks to google. This is nerfing the aoe of impulse by almost half.
One word. EXCESSIVE.
Yeah, I hate those impulse spam groups!3 -
TheBull✭✭✭✭✭
✭http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/126680/pulsar-fiery-ring-i-think-it-needs-to-be-redesigned/p1
The devs are listening.TheBull ✭✭✭✭✭
August 13 edited August 15 in Combat & Skill Lines - English
"It's a bad spell. Takes too much skill out the game. It's way too large for one."Killed by Sunshine 1vX How I see it.
Killed by Early Bright - Blood Flow - Magicka NB Build
Twitch - SunshineNB
Youtube - The Redguard5 -
ExiledKhallisi✭✭✭✭✭Impulse needs to be nerfed even more and be made blockable like other aoe'sEdited by ExiledKhallisi on October 15, 2014 5:54PM>>>>>>>>(DC)Guild Master of Biestas 250+ Active Members<<<<<<<<||||||Vr14 Sorc: Darkened Soul vr14 Templar: Tiffaney||||||“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War1 -
PBpsy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭The area nerf was not that bad for PVE (although unjustified and disgusting) but the animation nerf was terrible and pretty much destroyed the last good looking fire spell in the game. The game was actually praised for fire effects at launch now everything looks terrible.
Also Is it me having terrible distance estimation skills or does ZOS really have a problem distinguishing the difference between a radius and a diameter? To me it seems more like a nerf from 4 m to 2.5m radius.ESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)1 -
tordr86b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭6 meters is going to hurt, gonna get as bad as Templars sweep ultimate (5 meters. you can miss someone at blank range).0 -
curlyqloub14_ESO✭✭✭✭This is nerfing the aoe of impulse by almost half.
I'd love to know what form of math you use where 6/8 = 1/2. Pretty sure 25% is not equal to 50%.
Anyway, this may quite possibly be the best change I've seen since beta. Impulse has got to be one of the most over-used and overpowered skills in th game.
Edited by curlyqloub14_ESO on October 15, 2014 7:24PM2 -
OrangeTheCat✭✭✭✭✭
✭curlyqloub14_ESO wrote: »This is nerfing the aoe of impulse by almost half.
I'd love to know what form of math you use where 6/8 = 1/2. Pretty sure 25% is not equal to 50%.
Anyway, this may quite possibly be the best change I've seen since beta. Impulse has got to be one of the most over-used and overpowered skills in th game.
It's the reduction in area that matters, no?1 -
Soloeus✭✭✭✭✭
✭I approve of this buff which will make it easier to hit reliable targets in cohesion with others doing the same.
Within; Without.0 -
Valymer✭✭✭✭✭curlyqloub14_ESO wrote: »This is nerfing the aoe of impulse by almost half.
I'd love to know what form of math you use where 6/8 = 1/2. Pretty sure 25% is not equal to 50%.
Anyway, this may quite possibly be the best change I've seen since beta. Impulse has got to be one of the most over-used and overpowered skills in th game.
Don't forget about Talons0 -
Ezareth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭ExiledKhallisi wrote: »Impulse needs to be nerfed even more and be made blockable like other aoe's
No AOE is blockable.curlyqloub14_ESO wrote: »This is nerfing the aoe of impulse by almost half.
I'd love to know what form of math you use where 6/8 = 1/2. Pretty sure 25% is not equal to 50%.
Anyway, this may quite possibly be the best change I've seen since beta. Impulse has got to be one of the most over-used and overpowered skills in th game.
It is called Area not radius. Reducing the Radius to 6 from 8 reduced the area affected by almost half.Permanently banned from the forums for displaying dissent: ESO - The Year Behind
Too Much Bolt Escape - banned for "hacking the game to create movement not otherwise permitted by in game mechanics."
Ezareth VR16 AD Sorc - Rank 36 - Axe NA
Ezareth-Ali VR16 DC NB - Rank 20 - Chillrend NA
Ezareth PvP on Youtube1 -
PBpsy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭curlyqloub14_ESO wrote: »This is nerfing the aoe of impulse by almost half.
I'd love to know what form of math you use where 6/8 = 1/2. Pretty sure 25% is not equal to 50%.
Anyway, this may quite possibly be the best change I've seen since beta. Impulse has got to be one of the most over-used and overpowered skills in th game.
The OP provided the math. The area of a circle with 8 m radius is approximately 2 times that of a 6m circle. I do not agree that that translates into a 1/2 damage though but a large nerf in utility.ESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)1 -
ShadoPanauin✭✭✭I'm sorry your solo build doesn't work against a zerg. Maybe if you use your fists?Edited by ShadoPanauin on October 15, 2014 7:48PMR.I.P. Million Reasons to Bomb, he triggered ZOS
Characters:
Million Reasons to Rename - AD Magicka Nightblade
Lúcio C - AD Stamina Sorcerer
slaughterfishlivesmatter - AD Stamina Nightblade
Million Reasons to Rake - DC Stamina Sorcerer
Shadopandauin - EP Magicka DK
Million Reasons to Lag - EP Magicka Sorcerer1 -
Kartalin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭curlyqloub14_ESO wrote: »This is nerfing the aoe of impulse by almost half.
I'd love to know what form of math you use where 6/8 = 1/2. Pretty sure 25% is not equal to 50%.
Anyway, this may quite possibly be the best change I've seen since beta. Impulse has got to be one of the most over-used and overpowered skills in th game.
When we talk about AOE, area, we're looking at square units and not linear units. So we look at the squares of 6 out of 8: 36 out of 64, which is only just above half (56.25% to be precise). Note that this only refers to the area, not damage.
/math professor, seriouslyEdited by Kartalin on October 15, 2014 7:56PM-
Tri-faction tryhard but mainly EP in Gray Host lately (PC/NA)
- DISCARNATE - Tertiary Meat - @ Kartalin - Youtube
3 -
r.jan_emailb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭curlyqloub14_ESO wrote: »This is nerfing the aoe of impulse by almost half.
I'd love to know what form of math you use where 6/8 = 1/2. Pretty sure 25% is not equal to 50%.
Anyway, this may quite possibly be the best change I've seen since beta. Impulse has got to be one of the most over-used and overpowered skills in th game.
When we talk about AOE, area, we're looking at square units and not linear units. So we look at the squares of 6 out of 8: 36 out of 64, which is only just above half (56.25% to be precise). Note that this only refers to the area, not damage.
/math professor, seriously
Technically that's right. But that doesn't matter if we have enough people in the smaller radius to reach the AoE cap. If every one inside the AoE would get hit, yes, it'd be almost halfed in efficiency. But luckily that's not the case... as I explained above, this is not as bad as it looks math-wise.Lairgren | DC Dragonknight - August Palatine
playing for eXile
I'm done, CU somewhere else.0 -
Bramir✭✭✭✭This is a really good nerf to an ability that was turning Cyrodil into a laggy mess. Without that extra radius, zergbombs are going to struggle to be at all effective in the open, and might even not be the best tactic for all situations!0 -
curlyqloub14_ESO✭✭✭✭ezareth_ESO wrote: »ExiledKhallisi wrote: »Impulse needs to be nerfed even more and be made blockable like other aoe's
No AOE is blockable.curlyqloub14_ESO wrote: »This is nerfing the aoe of impulse by almost half.
I'd love to know what form of math you use where 6/8 = 1/2. Pretty sure 25% is not equal to 50%.
Anyway, this may quite possibly be the best change I've seen since beta. Impulse has got to be one of the most over-used and overpowered skills in th game.
It is called Area not radius. Reducing the Radius to 6 from 8 reduced the area affected by almost half.
My apologies, missed the radius part. Still not half, but ok,
Regardless, still think this nerf is justified and good.0 -
ExiledKhallisi✭✭✭✭✭ezareth_ESO wrote: »ExiledKhallisi wrote: »Impulse needs to be nerfed even more and be made blockable like other aoe's
No AOE is blockable.curlyqloub14_ESO wrote: »This is nerfing the aoe of impulse by almost half.
I'd love to know what form of math you use where 6/8 = 1/2. Pretty sure 25% is not equal to 50%.
Anyway, this may quite possibly be the best change I've seen since beta. Impulse has got to be one of the most over-used and overpowered skills in th game.
It is called Area not radius. Reducing the Radius to 6 from 8 reduced the area affected by almost half.
Wrong.
You can block melee weapon AOE's>>>>>>>>(DC)Guild Master of Biestas 250+ Active Members<<<<<<<<||||||Vr14 Sorc: Darkened Soul vr14 Templar: Tiffaney||||||“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War1
