There was also supposed to be a change where beverages stacked with food (very important change). VR10 recipes were supposed to be introduced and the ingredients were supposed to be cut way down. Did you see any of that?

I don't understand. They made a big deal out of changes to provisioning like a month ago (?), said they were going to go with the changes they listed, and since then...nothing. The drink stacking could be a very helpful feature.

ZOS - we need to talk to the recipe lady.

Martinus72 wrote: »

They seem bit OP to be honest...

it does make sense though, the health/magicka/stamina softcaps are pretty high, current food doesn't give most people any realistic chance to get to 2+ softcaps.

Now the potion is very good, restores over 1000 points health.

crislevin wrote: »

Martinus72 wrote: »

They seem bit OP to be honest...

it does make sense though, the health/magicka/stamina softcaps are pretty high, current food doesn't give most people any realistic chance to get to 2+ softcaps.

Now the potion is very good, restores over 1000 points health.

I just hope it's not a step towards trivialising the game, last thing we need is to keep making it easier...

It's still in the works, I think.

As for the change the OP mentions, I think it makes sense as the recipes were introduced when the max level was VR10 and it's now VR14.
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I hope so. As it stands the beverage portion of the provisioning is about 98% useless (and that's a lot of ingredients in-game).

I know of a player or two with highly specialized builds that focus on certain types of combat situations in PVP where the regen rate is more important to them than the stat buffs. However I never see anyone in Cyrodil buying/selling beverages. It's always food.

Dang, one of my favorite game activities is writing a bug report every time a provisioner hireling sends me beverage ingredients. If they allow food *and* drink, I'll have to find a replacement activity.

Okay, okay, I stopped at around 200 such reports....I ran out of variations....

Food and drink really need to stack. Also, provisioning progression is far to quick and easy. I hit lvl 50 within a week. My enchanter alt? Still stuck at lvl 22. Perhaps a good approach would be to add levels to provisioning and make those abilities quest rewards.

In addition, F&D needs to be labeled with the name of its creator. My toon Yancius is just as proud of his provisioning products as my alts are of their creations. If Yancina, Yanandra Carolina, and Yahatma Yahndi can have their wares named why not the cook?

Inventory management is certainly a challenge for the provisioner. This is magnified by each area of Tamriel having their own local ingredients and recipes. There is just no way of doing it without having a dedicated provisioner mule with a maxed out pack horse. I have managed to come to peace with it though and it no longer causes me the degree of angst it once did. At one time it was MUCH worse. In beta you had to have the ingredients you were using to craft actually on your person, not just in your bank. THAT was a PITA!

Instead of taking the programing time to change all of the recipes and meld them into things found all over Tamriel I suggest craft quests that provide pantries and larders. These would provide additional storage for the appropriate type items and would also toss a miniscule bone to the solo PvE crowd that has been ignored since launch. Once player housing drops those features would be perfect additions to the home.

Of course one small but helpful change for all crafters would be to move all trophy items, fish, costumes, and the like to the quest tab so that they do not count against our inventory limit. Once again, player housing would provide the proper repository for these.

theyancey wrote: »

Food and drink really need to stack. Also, provisioning progression is far to quick and easy. I hit lvl 50 within a week. My enchanter alt? Still stuck at lvl 22.

its not provisioning too fast, its enchanting too slow, alchemy is also very fast, WW/BS/CLO is also quick if you just decon stuff.

They have doubled the speed of enchanting, so it is better now, but still quite slow.

That potion increase seems very good for Nightblades, combined with our 30% increase passive, and perhaps a potion boost enchant, we could heal somewhere close to 1k hp instantly with a tripot :>

theyancey wrote: »

Food and drink really need to stack. Also, provisioning progression is far to quick and easy. I hit lvl 50 within a week. My enchanter alt? Still stuck at lvl 22. Perhaps a good approach would be to add levels to provisioning and make those abilities quest rewards.

In addition, F&D needs to be labeled with the name of its creator. My toon Yancius is just as proud of his provisioning products as my alts are of their creations. If Yancina, Yanandra Carolina, and Yahatma Yahndi can have their wares named why not the cook?

Inventory management is certainly a challenge for the provisioner. This is magnified by each area of Tamriel having their own local ingredients and recipes. There is just no way of doing it without having a dedicated provisioner mule with a maxed out pack horse. I have managed to come to peace with it though and it no longer causes me the degree of angst it once did. At one time it was MUCH worse. In beta you had to have the ingredients you were using to craft actually on your person, not just in your bank. THAT was a PITA!

Instead of taking the programing time to change all of the recipes and meld them into things found all over Tamriel I suggest craft quests that provide pantries and larders. These would provide additional storage for the appropriate type items and would also toss a miniscule bone to the solo PvE crowd that has been ignored since launch. Once player housing drops those features would be perfect additions to the home.

Of course one small but helpful change for all crafters would be to move all trophy items, fish, costumes, and the like to the quest tab so that they do not count against our inventory limit. Once again, player housing would provide the proper repository for these.

Sorry meant my file a bug report remark to be in response to the fellow complaining about beverage ingredients from hirelings which will soon become moot.

I agree with you. After I made my first cook I got my second one to 50 in under an hour and I'm not the sort who's good at these games. I simply saved up some recipes and ingredients and a few skill points (okay, so the skill points took more than an hour).

You eat the recipes, stand by a fire, make enough lower level things to bring you up to where you can boost the recipe quality by 1 and the recipe improvement by 2, and cook, cook, cook. Strangely fast route to 50, though you only need 48 for a level 3 hireling which is what you're doing this for as you only want/need one cook to make the food.

As with all crafts except Enchanting, getting to 50 is easy. You get there with your Smith, Tailor, and Woodworker just in the course of questing and breaking things down. You need not make a thing. The difficulty comes with finding recipes for cooks and research with the crafters. And the latter is not difficult. Rather it takes time.

The truly strange part of crafting in this game is that every crafter must also be a warrior. They don't need to necessarily be high level warriors but you can't have a crafter who's only a crafter.

Weberda wrote: »

I don't understand. They made a big deal out of changes to provisioning like a month ago (?), said they were going to go with the changes they listed, and since then...nothing. The drink stacking could be a very helpful feature.

ZOS - we need to talk to the recipe lady.

The last mention from ZOS on the subject was about 2 months ago, and all they said was to look for it "In the coming months". I wouldn't expect to see it anytime before December (though would be pleasantly surprised to see it sooner).

Rodario wrote: »

I thought honey brittle was supposed to not look like a steak anymore... It was suspicious that they only mentioned the fortified version in the notes, but I assumed they changed all versions. At least that would make sense.

Not sure what you mean. I always make a petrified-candied steak when I make honey brittle at home.

Good buff to see - curious if drinks are also increased, for regen rates???

The increases are nice (provided they're accurate/as intended) - and I'd love to see food stack with beverage (I missed that discussion - I hope it happens) - but why does the Consummate Honey Brittle still look like a grilled T-Bone Steak? Wasn't that supposed to be fixed also? (Thanks for all the info, btw.)

LunaRae wrote: »

Good buff to see - curious if drinks are also increased, for regen rates???

no it wasn't, v5 purple drink still adds 8 for each regen.