DK not OP, come learn something

shanersimms_ESO · October 2014

david.haypreub18_ESO wrote: »

shanersimms_ESO wrote: »

2. Endless Fury - Spammable and not reflectable, but DK's Crushing Shock/Weave dps far outweighs dps from endless fury spam, not viable.

It's actually even worse than you suggest: I believe Fury IS reflectable. It doesn't look like a projectile, to be sure, but the game for some reason treats it as one. So there's even one less thing you can do against a DK.

Hmm that's good to know, I feel like it wasn't reflectable in the past, but since the damage on targets above 20% is null I haven't used it much lately.

This is just crazy, and I don't see how anyone who is objectively looking for class balance in PvP, regardless which class you play, could argue for this. You have the people who play DK's defending why they aren't imbalanced while saying anyone offering logical and rational explanations why this is a problem is "whining because they died to a DK". It's sad to see so many people wanting to run the overall quality of the game into the ground, instead of looking honestly at how the game can be more competitive and balanced overall, just so they can continue to 'ez-mode' and think their dominance is due to overwhelming skill.

shanersimms_ESO · October 2014

Sensesfail13 wrote: »

Just give it up @wing the community loves to hate the dragonknight. Great post by the way, makes more sense than the whining I usually see about " A dragonknight killed me in pvp nerf them to oblivion so I can be leet with a junk playstyle"

I figured someone who listens to such great music would have something a little more insightful and less "head-in-butt" to say.

Please see my post about 6 posts before yours. There is an abundance of justified reasoning why this isn't balanced and not once is there a "cried bc of death to DK" element. It's a fallacy to assume that someone who disagrees with your position is de facto wrong.

Please provide logical justification why this is just crying and not a reasonable complaint. At least the OP tried to provide reasons why he felt DK's aren't imbalanced (although easily rebutted imo). You didn't even do that... for shame.

Leeric · October 2014

Its a reasonable complaint DKs are to good at everything. Being the best at PVP/PVE DPS and TANKING at the same time is ridiculous. How can people even defend that? The question we should be asking is how bad are these DKs who don't even recognize that lol

eNumbra · October 2014

ShadoPanauin wrote: »

Ugh, the DK hate bandwagon. Eventually you guys are going to cause DKs to be the release-version templar.

By which you mean they'll have a single spell so absurdly useful and spammable that it will be the go-to choice of the loot/gold farming bots?

Teargrants · October 2014

The problem with Mage's Fury is that it and both it's morphs are BUGGED, ever since the patch that fixed the issue of Endless Fury proc not returning magica.

This is what happens now on DK scales:
- If Fury was placed on them BEFORE they were in execute range, the excecute proc will go off and hit the DK through scales as it should.
- If Fury is cast AFTER the DK is in execute range, the initial hit still hits them, BUT the execute proc gets reflected onto you for the 700-1k dmg.

This makes it virtually impossible for magica sorcs to kill DKs. Wearing down their resources and getting them into execute range is fine. But unless you get lucky and have Fury on them right before they fall to execute range, AND that one proc is enough to kill them, you won't be able to finish them as long as they keep scales up. You are basically just going to kill yourself trying to execute them until they GDB back up. The only way around it is to have full HP and all your shields up while you toss Fury and hope the 200 base hit dmg is enough, or hope that the DK drops scales for a sec or two.

Once again, this is the result of a BUG, the existance of which hasn't even been aknowledged by ZOS. So don't expect any fix.