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Shadow Cloak - something's got to be done urgently!
GrimMauKin
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My Nightblade depends on Shadowy Disguise in a lot of situations to make up for the lack of pure DPS. I think that it's well known that it's badly broken at the moment but in my last session I think that it failed to cancel attacks and broke instantly in about 60% or more or attempts.
Despite may posting and, presumably, bug reports Zenimax so no interest in addressing it or even bothering to respond to requests.
Is it ever going to get fixed or are we meant to be placated by whizzy new content that Shadow Cloak can continue to fail in?
Edited by GrimMauKin on October 11, 2014 8:08AM Despite may posting and, presumably, bug reports Zenimax so no interest in addressing it or even bothering to respond to requests.
Is it ever going to get fixed or are we meant to be placated by whizzy new content that Shadow Cloak can continue to fail in?
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GrimMauKin✭✭✭✭Am I the only one then?I am one of The Great Mediocracy, those whose role in life is to provide the baseline by which The Few deem themselves Great.0
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Saet✭✭✭There are tons of posts about this already. You are definitely not the only one.Saet - stam nb
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seneferab16_ESO✭✭✭I'm with you. VERY obvious in PvE where it get's broken roughly 30% of the fights (down from 50ish% when they first broke Cloak so at least it is moving in the right direction).Edited by seneferab16_ESO on October 12, 2014 5:00PMAerin Treerunner, pre dinner snack0 -
TheBull✭✭✭✭✭
✭Give it 1 second immunity. Problem solved.Killed by Sunshine 1vX How I see it.
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Redlag✭✭✭Give it 1 second immunity. Problem solved.
Not really, and I'm not trying to be negative. I have huge problems as a nightblade magicka melee class. Every time I come out of hiding to attack something I am stuck in combat and for 3-5 minute stints. Cloaking doesn't help a bit.
For a class built around stealth openers and crits. I feel like ZoS is regulating my success through keeping me stuck in combat. Keeping me stuck in combat negates my offense and defense.
Also, compared to a sorcer's Bolt escape that they can morph into an AoE disorientate that stuns and makes people waste stamina plusputs them at range. Can you imagined if I asked for cloak to AoE stun? I would be called wanting overpowering easy mode. Yet a sorce can streak once stunning everyone and streak again to be completely out of charge/gap closer range and streak again to be completely safe and everyone that they were fighting stuck in combat, unable to mount and a football field away.
Cloak as a basic ability without any morphs should remove all negative effects, because it's the key to resetting us back into our offensive capabilities. It's also the NBs only hard defensive ability.
1) make cloak remove combat
2) make it remove negative effects
3) give it interesting morphs that put us on the level of other classes. Its our only hard defense.6 -
whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
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This one would settle for a 1 second immunity on initial cast.Give it 1 second immunity. Problem solved.
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GreyRanger✭✭✭Stealth and shadow cloak are and have been severely bugged for ages. I hit a new yesterday where while in Shadow Cloak I could not attack at all.
There was a time when the mods were posting back and forth with people about these issues (there is a huge thread about this), but about 1.5 weeks ago they just stopped. I don't think anyone who does not work for Zeni has any idea what or if they are going to do anything more about all this. They said in the guild summit that they are going to look at Shadow Cloak, but no further word since then.
I haven't given up hope yet, but I am pretty discouraged with the whole mess.0 -
GrimMauKin✭✭✭✭I'm close to giving up hope. I've persevered with the game from day one despite all the bugs and the fact that it's never managed to lift itself out of beta test quality but Zenimax just keep pilling on bugs on top of bugs and show know intention of even trying to sort them out (I'm still suffering from bugs that have plagued me from day one such as skills keys not working).
The latest round of stealth and Shadow Cloak bugs may well finally drive me away as the cons or rapidly out waying the pros and the game is rapidly becoming just a source of frustration. In less than 5 minutes play this afternoon Shadowy Disguise had been breaking, not cancelling attacks and allowing launched attacks to hit.I am one of The Great Mediocracy, those whose role in life is to provide the baseline by which The Few deem themselves Great.3 -
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you are not alone, many of us are struggling right along with you on this.GrimMauKin wrote: »I'm close to giving up hope. I've persevered with the game from day one despite all the bugs and the fact that it's never managed to lift itself out of beta test quality but Zenimax just keep pilling on bugs on top of bugs and show know intention of even trying to sort them out (I'm still suffering from bugs that have plagued me from day one such as skills keys not working).
The latest round of stealth and Shadow Cloak bugs may well finally drive me away as the cons or rapidly out waying the pros and the game is rapidly becoming just a source of frustration. In less than 5 minutes play this afternoon Shadowy Disguise had been breaking, not cancelling attacks and allowing launched attacks to hit.
Edited by Gilvoth on October 12, 2014 4:59PM0 -
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✭Yup, as a NB we get only one shot at a high critical from stealth opener and the rest of the fight is to slog it out at a severe handicap. We can't re-stealth to get away or reset our high critical attack. At least not in PvE. I don't PvP enough to care what happens there.2 -
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✭GrimMauKin wrote: »I'm close to giving up hope. I've persevered with the game from day one despite all the bugs and the fact that it's never managed to lift itself out of beta test quality but Zenimax just keep pilling on bugs on top of bugs and show know intention of even trying to sort them out (I'm still suffering from bugs that have plagued me from day one such as skills keys not working).
The latest round of stealth and Shadow Cloak bugs may well finally drive away as the cons or rapidly out waying the pros and the game is rapidly becoming just a source of frustration. In less than 5 minutes play this afternoon Shadowy Disguise had been breaking, not cancelling attacks and allowing launched attacks to hit.
Yes. It's definitely a lot harder to justify logging in and paying my sub. If ZOS could just communicate... Sometimes I have to wonder what is going on behind closed doors at ZOS HQ.1 -
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✭The morphs are meh I agree, a heal or something would have been nice... you know an ACUTAL useable OOC/no target needed class heal for Nightblades, ZOS, you listening? Maybe a stamina regen with it, frankly the DOT remove and crit chance could easily be on the base skill when you look at the insane power of GDB and scales.3 -
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✭✭✭CapuchinSeven wrote: »The morphs are meh I agree, a heal or something would have been nice... you know an ACUTAL useable OOC/no target needed class heal for Nightblades, ZOS, you listening? Maybe a stamina regen with it, frankly the DOT remove and crit chance could easily be on the base skill when you look at the insane power of GDB and scales.
Technically, it used to give Stamina Regen when activated.
Refreshing Shadows passive used to be a short-term Stamina Regen that only activated after using Shadow skills.
The permanently active passive it was changed into is preferable, but an additional Stamina Regen buff on Cloak would certainly be appreciated."If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
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Redlag✭✭✭OrangeTheCat wrote: »Yup, as a NB we get only one shot at a high critical from stealth opener and the rest of the fight is to slog it out at a severe handicap. We can't re-stealth to get away or reset our high critical attack. At least not in PvE. I don't PvP enough to care what happens there.
In PvP you get stuck in combat for 3-7 minutes stints at keep fights. Basically I become worthless for 3-7 minutes and then get to stealth for 15 seconds of fun. To again have combat issues of being able to stealth for 5 minutes. If I get aggroed by a keep guard and it resets to its position. I have to run half way to another keep to get out of combat.CapuchinSeven wrote: »The morphs are meh I agree, a heal or something would have been nice... you know an ACUTAL useable OOC/no target needed class heal for Nightblades, ZOS, you listening? Maybe a stamina regen with it, frankly the DOT remove and crit chance could easily be on the base skill when you look at the insane power of GDB and scales.
It should remove combat, remove negatives before it's morphed, and it would help the class to the next level if they gave it something extreme like sorce's Streak (AoE stuns). Basically Cloak didn't work, so the devs gave us the option to morph it to remove negative effects so that it would work. It's morphs are weak and one is a fix to it being useless, the other isn't used for PvP.
We have stamina regen. Everything about this entire class is something over time. Health slowly over time, stamina slowly over time, magicka slowly over time. We need something right now. Besides our openers from stealth the class has nothing on demand.
Edited by Redlag on October 13, 2014 4:33AM4 -
Hortator Indoril Nerevar✭✭✭✭✭
✭GrimMauKin wrote: »My Nightblade depends on Shadowy Disguise in a lot of situations to make up for the lack of pure DPS. I think that it's well known that it's badly broken at the moment but in my last session I think that it failed to cancel attacks and broke instantly in about 60% or more or attempts.
Despite may posting and, presumably, bug reports Zenimax so no interest in addressing it or even bothering to respond to requests.
Is it ever going to get fixed or are we meant to be placated by whizzy new content that Shadow Cloak can continue to fail in?
We are not DK's so it wont be fixed any time soon.
To be more on point... I agree. Every class gets something good and unique. Dks can deal amazing dps and not take damage. Sorcs do amazing dps and can spam a stun tele that is so fast it voids the reason for them to have a horse, temps can heal more then can be thrown at them and Night blades get wellllllll to go invis...
Because other classes cant do that.
well
Unless then just press sneak...Edited by Hortator Indoril Nerevar on October 13, 2014 4:34AM2 -
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✭I just don't use cloak. Stamina build with Bow on one bar and 2H on the other... working pretty good so far.
Would be nice if cloak was fixed...but I have to say, my confidence in their ability to fix NB issues is pretty low at this point.0 -
Hortator Indoril Nerevar✭✭✭✭✭
✭I just don't use cloak. Stamina build with Bow on one bar and 2H on the other... working pretty good so far.
Would be nice if cloak was fixed...but I have to say, my confidence in their ability to fix NB issues is pretty low at this point.
Problems remain that have been around in bata haha.
Edited by Hortator Indoril Nerevar on October 13, 2014 5:44AM0 -
GrimMauKin✭✭✭✭I just don't use cloak. Stamina build with Bow on one bar and 2H on the other... working pretty good so far.
If that's the way you want to play in a "play the way you want to" game, that's fine (I carry a bow as my secondary weapon), but I don't really want to be forced to play a certain way because the way I want to play is broken.
I've built my only character, a Nightblade, to be a sneaky guy who can handle toe to toe combat when needed, in both instances I need Shadow Cloak to work.I am one of The Great Mediocracy, those whose role in life is to provide the baseline by which The Few deem themselves Great.2