Halrloprillalar wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

There is a sense of real hilarity when a SnB Heavy DK with the right set bonuses (dominion and syrabane being two of them) just walks through a zergball for five minutes while the staffers scratch their heads.

Not me btw, but Ive seen it done before, and its fricken hysterical. "y u no die"

Resto Staff FTW.

more like: scales-GDB-scales-GDB

then danananan batswarm

Yeah. But you get around the scales with a Resto staff. LAZOR BEEM

Rylana wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

There is a sense of real hilarity when a SnB Heavy DK with the right set bonuses (dominion and syrabane being two of them) just walks through a zergball for five minutes while the staffers scratch their heads.

Not me btw, but Ive seen it done before, and its fricken hysterical. "y u no die"

Resto Staff FTW.

more like: scales-GDB-scales-GDB

then danananan batswarm

Yeah. But you get around the scales with a Resto staff. LAZOR BEEM

I was demonstrating the power of the resto staff buffed Soul Assault to your red DK cohorts last night, with positively ludicrous results.

PROTIP - Even though a DK cant pull you off the wall with chains anymore, doesnt mean a Templar with a grudge cant snipe you and turn you to ash with 3k worth of CHARGIN MAH LAZOR, so dont stand on the edge like a smug little noob.

Why do you think I don't stand at the ledge of a keep unless I'm sure there're morons on the ground?

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

There is a sense of real hilarity when a SnB Heavy DK with the right set bonuses (dominion and syrabane being two of them) just walks through a zergball for five minutes while the staffers scratch their heads.

Not me btw, but Ive seen it done before, and its fricken hysterical. "y u no die"

Resto Staff FTW.

more like: scales-GDB-scales-GDB

then danananan batswarm

Funnel health - Funnel health - Funnel health - Funnel Health

Crystal Shards - Crystal Shards - Crystal Shards - Crystal Shards

Biting jabs - Biting Jabs - Biting Jabs - Biting Jabs

I used to wear 5 heavy 2 light, S &B DK with resto staff on off bar. I had to use cost reduction rings to compensate. Switched to 7 light, I tank better(more spell resist, more magika efficiency so more dragon bloods), take less damage, I can use more spells as they cost less, have better overall regen and I put damage enchants on the rings so I do more damage.

Heavy armor is viable, light is just better.

While I would love to go back to heavy armour, wield a hammer and start smashing heads with it like we did in Beta, is almost impossible to do it now.

Hence my Templar is 5LA/2MA or 7/7 LA, with resto/destro or resto/shield.

(the 2 MA because I do roll on the floor more often than many, to keep away from the insane amount of CC, since purge is bugged lately)

If we want to make this game more ESO and less Mages Online, light armour needs to receive a hell of nerf, along with Magicka based damage, remove the 300 spell & armour pen Cyrodiil buff, and make both Spell Resist and Armour Rating absorb more damage.
(possibly add bit STA bonus on heavy).


As for the bow vs light armour, I agree.

The NPC guards, can hit a VR12 7/7 light player for 1600+ with the bow.
Players, can do even more. Hence it requires almost always to have a shield up.
(Harness, Immovable, BS, anything).

Kewljag_66_ESO wrote: »

Light Armor is also very vulnerbale to NBs. ALL the melee NB abilities are based off of the targets armor factor (even tho they are magika abilities)

As a NB, Light Armor users are usually much easier to kill than heavy armor users. My toughest fights are against heavy Armor DKs and Templars.

Also as a NB you should not wear light armor unless you are a caster spec. Your melee NB abilities are all based off of weapon crit. Enchanting 1 ring with +magic resist will gives you the magic resist of light armor

Wow. I have so been doing it wrong. My main spec is built around Ambush, Surprise Attack, Swallow Soul, Impale, and Dark Cloak, with Incapacitating Strike as my ultimate.

I've been wearing 5/2 Light/Medium armor, and using the Apprentice Mundus Stone for the Spell Penetration boost, along with the Spell/Armor Pen weapon enchants.

Should I be running full Medium armor for this build? And what about my Mundus Stone choice? Should I be going for crit, crit damage, extra Magicka? I haven't been able to find any reliable information on how the Nightblade's melee abilities work, so any help is much appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

People who don't use heavy armour and then complain on the forums when they get killed, lol.

Rylana wrote: »

There is a sense of real hilarity when a SnB Heavy DK with the right set bonuses (dominion and syrabane being two of them) just walks through a zergball for five minutes while the staffers scratch their heads.

Not me btw, but Ive seen it done before, and its fricken hysterical. "y u no die"

I'm not quite that unkillable, but this is the reason my S&B DK tank wears full heavy. It helps my playstyle - which involves a lot of charging into/through enemy groups in advance of my group. Regardless of what you think of the passives, heavy armor helps survivability.

Also, for a tank that is (hopefully) getting hit a lot and has a lot of health, the stamina/magicka regen passive works pretty well.

Everyone keeps telling me I need to pick up a resto staff and go light armor, but I'd likely quit the game before going down that (well trodden) path.

Heavy needs a serious boost, plus making Immovable require 5 pieces so you see it in the field more often.

Adding a % damage reduction per piece of heavy worn against all incoming damage it a good way to handle it. Gives you real survivability while making you want to wear more pieces.

Talcyndl wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Adding a % damage reduction per piece of heavy worn against all incoming damage it a good way to handle it. Gives you real survivability while making you want to wear more pieces.

Obviously not the same (especially since you sacrifice other possible set bonuses), but the PvP heavy armor (Bastion of the Heartland) set bonuses give a nice DR in PvP. The full 5 piece bonuses:

(1) +135 Health (in VR12 Epic)
(2) +4% Healing taken (With the 7% healing taken from the Rapid Mending passive this makes a big difference for a meatshield)
(3) Reduces all damage from players by 5%
(4) Reduces all damage from siege and from player AoE by 20%.

You certainly sacrifice damage output, but for a tank (especially one running in a group most of the time), this isn't a bad set up.

How many of those set pieces have Impen on them?

On top of that, why should anyone been limited to a single setup to pvp in to use HA?

I am all for buffing heavy armor. And as has been mentioned, there is very little Impen on dropped heavy sets, which makes it even more difficult to use in PVP. I, personally, want to see either Impen or a variation thereof added as a passive to Heavy Armor. If adding Impen as a passive to the Heavy Amor line is viewed as too much of a buff, I would really like to see a passive that reduces the magnitude of critical hits per piece of heavy armor worn (minimum 5-pieces). The latter would give a unique defensive stat to Heavy Armor that can't be achieved in any other way.