Alternative to Horse prices

EternalDiva · June 2014

I feel the prices for higher level horses are too expensive. We should have a way to earn lower prices. Similar to how you earn enough favor to buy a home in Skyrim, perhaps we can do a set of quests to gain favor with horse vendors and purchase for much lower prices. Or perhaps get lower prices if we have higher levels of persuasion.

p.s I dont want a guild house. I want my own house.

Volkodav · June 2014

I am with you.I was stunned at how much all horses but Diamond cost.

xaraan · June 2014

Horse prices are fine IMO. You start making a lot of money pretty easily as you level up and there isn't much more to spend it on other than bank/bag upgrades and buying a horse.

zgrssd · June 2014

"The 17k horse is pointless. If you gotta save, you might as well save to 42k directly. If you don't have the 1G Imperial horse, you should not touch anything with those stats" - that is something I can agree with.
For everything the 1G horse is the 17k one in white. The 1G horse is worth those stats. The 17k horse, most definetely not.

The prices for the 42k horses might be a bit to high too. I don't notice it that much as I have the 1 G horse myself.
But I can guess that not having the 1G horse can be very annoying especially for leveling alts.

I also have a theory that people roll that many sorcs because they have two "travel skills" (bolt escape and the lightning form morph). If you gotta run around without horse, you might at least do it fast.

EternalDiva · October 2014

xaraan, I dunno what your secret is, but most folks I know arent making big bugs from the start. Its not that easy to save 14000 for a horse when everything has a high purchase cost and a low selling price. even selling in the market place fails to yield like other games I play.

Osira · October 2014

I'm level 14 and bought one bank space, one bag upgrade, and I have around 7.300 septims.

I have to admit though that whatever I want to sell, it's always a low price. between 1g to 20g. If any single item has a value of 50 it has the "sells 150% more to the merchant" enchant.
I may be able to buy that black horse in a few weeks though.

I do not mind the price, but for now I feel like I'm not getting much money, especially since I use all my loot for desconstruct with "crafting". First game I played with crafting being faster to level by not actually crafting gear but by salvaging stuff. It just doesn't make any sense.

Evergnar · October 2014

Although I felt the same way starting out (refused to by the Imperial Edition) they did give us the option of a less costly alternative with the common horse. By the time you are lvl 25 or so the mount prices seem more reasonable. Prices for bank space is a different story however.

EternalDiva · October 2014

Im level 28. Im not seeing any lower prices. Either that or I dont recall what they were to begin with. all I know is every time I even get half of what I need Ive got to buy more bank or more bag. Might be my imagination but seems like the bank is too expensive too soon. I dont mind the rates going up...but 2000? really? you get way more with Warcraft. whine whine. I know. Im spoiled. took wow time to finesse things...guess we gotta give the newcomer to online gaming a bit of time too. though I AM already spoiled by my old ES games. I mean then you could actually make money by looting...as long as you did not get caught...and you could save all your things in your houses even by simply dropping them on the floor. I guess that would not be practical for an online game though. so want my own house.

and why can't I steal or tame that odd horse I find here and there in my ESO travels? Nice one near a picnic blanket and a bag...just standing there!

Greatfellow · October 2014

xaraan wrote: »

Horse prices are fine IMO. You start making a lot of money pretty easily as you level up and there isn't much more to spend it on other than bank/bag upgrades and buying a horse.

I don't know about this "You make a lot of money leveling up" statement: I just remember being really thankful I had the Imperial edition 1-gold horse, because there was no way I'd make enough money for a full value horse in the first 25-30 levels. I'd be on foot.

Ghettobird52 · October 2014

I was able to get 17,2k to buy the cheap horse by level 15. How did i achieve this?

Do every single quest you see.
Kill in between running through quest givers
Loot every mob you kill
Dont spend gold on anything other than repairing your gear. (all gear from quests no reason to buy vendor items)

And thats how i did it.

I think horse prices are reasonable as they are right now. I will admit the angry joe review got me scared " one gold!!!!" but i just started playing about a month ago and i can see that the horse prices are fine as they are.

Varicite · October 2014

Osira wrote: »

I have around 7.300 septims.

Hmm, interesting.

So what's it like in the future? Got any lottery numbers for me? : )

jelliedsoup · October 2014

I dont know how people say it isn't much money. The most ive had is 60k in this game.

Wish zos would offer a respec on horse choices, I pumped 20 worthless points into stamina. It does nothing.

ThePonzzz · October 2014

Outside PvP, I don't see a huge need for a horse.

Circuitous · October 2014

I was able to afford the Light Horse (42.7k) at level 23, on top of the thousands spent on motifs (back in the early days when they were 1k each), bank/bag space, and gear. It's doable. Sell whites to vendors, sell set items to people in chat, offload excess mats to people, farm a bit.

It's easier than ever for a lowbie to make money now. A stack of raw jute/rawhide scraps/iron ore/rough maple can get you 1.5k each or more.

jelliedsoup wrote: »

I dont know how people say it isn't much money. The most ive had is 60k in this game.

Wish zos would offer a respec on horse choices, I pumped 20 worthless points into stamina. It does nothing.

Stamina is worthwhile because you get more stamina that regenerates faster. When you start sprinting there's a higher initial burst of speed, and by mashing sprint you can actually go much faster than a normal sprinting horse. Higher stamina lets you do this for longer. Give it a try.

dharbert · October 2014

Horse prices are just fine. You aren't going to be rolling in cash as soon as you start a character, nor should you be. Everyone who didn't purchase the Imperial Edition has had to be on foot just starting out. No one here cares to hear how it is in WoW or any other MMO. If you like the way things are in other MMO's, then by all means, go back to it.

The Common Horse is only 17,200 gold and is just fine for most players. The only ones who won't agree are those who only PvP and just want the fastest horse. Once you've played for a while, you'll see that the horse prices are nothing compared to how much you are going to spend on bag and bank space. By comparison, purchasing a Common Horse and feeding it only oats until level 50 (giving you an additional 50 bag slots) is much cheaper than purchasing an additional 50 bag or bank slots, although you have to take the time to level the horse.

But like I was saying, once you've played for a while and get up in the vet ranks you will have more gold than you know what to do with.

MAOofDC · October 2014

I have two words that describe the Zeni's need for high prices on horses. Gold sink. ESO is not the first game to have them, nor will they be the last.

AoEnwyr · October 2014

Gold in this game is a bit of a balance. You can make the 42k easily enough if you never buy anything and sell everything. If you are a crafter and break down gear, buy the all important bag and bank space, you won't be buying one of those expensive horses until much later in the game. I don't mind this so much because I think it's nice to have to prioritise. I honestly don't see the value in the 42k horses. They have a few more points in certain stats depending on which one you buy but it is in no way essential to sucessfully playing the game... and I'm a tight wad.

Still you never know, horse theivery may become a thing and you can try your hand at that!

Varicite · October 2014

UlanX wrote: »

I honestly don't see the value in the 42k horses. They have a few more points in certain stats depending on which one you buy but it is in no way essential to sucessfully playing the game...

Just out of curiosity, you don't PvP much in-game, do you?

Just haven't heard many PvP players question the value of a fast horse. : P

AoEnwyr · October 2014

Varicite wrote: »

UlanX wrote: »

I honestly don't see the value in the 42k horses. They have a few more points in certain stats depending on which one you buy but it is in no way essential to sucessfully playing the game...

Just out of curiosity, you don't PvP much in-game, do you?

Just haven't heard many PvP players question the value of a fast horse. : P

PvP is one aspect of the game, not the whole game by far. If PvP players want to spend that kind of gold on a horse they can but in terms of the entire game, it really isn't worth it. If you are actually good at PvP it comes down to your skill not your horse.

Varicite · October 2014

UlanX wrote: »

Varicite wrote: »

UlanX wrote: »

I honestly don't see the value in the 42k horses. They have a few more points in certain stats depending on which one you buy but it is in no way essential to sucessfully playing the game...

Just out of curiosity, you don't PvP much in-game, do you?

Just haven't heard many PvP players question the value of a fast horse. : P

PvP is one aspect of the game, not the whole game by far. If PvP players want to spend that kind of gold on a horse they can but in terms of the entire game, it really isn't worth it. If you are actually good at PvP it comes down to your skill not your horse.

Geez, I just meant that Cyrodiil is a pretty large map.. No amount of "skill" is going to make getting around it easier than on a fast horse.

/shrug

Janduin · October 2014

Nah, Imperial horse with speed upgrades is fine for Cyrodiil. You can get more speed with light horse, but it's not that much more. Waste of 42k g for the most part.

Sunrock · October 2014

If you play smart. IE know what herbs to sell. You can as a new player at lv 15 buy the most expensive horse.

Just because you are clue less about the fine prints in the game does not mean the horse prices are too expensive.

AngryNord · October 2014

Imperial Motif books are selling for 100K gold. And you people complain about the prize of a HORSE??

Carraig · October 2014

Varicite wrote: »

Osira wrote: »

I have around 7.300 septims.

Hmm, interesting.

So what's it like in the future? Got any lottery numbers for me? : )

Noticed it also. He is about 300 years ahead of the rest of us

Rosveen · October 2014

Sunrock wrote: »

If you play smart. IE know what herbs to sell. You can as a new player at lv 15 buy the most expensive horse.

Just because you are clue less about the fine prints in the game does not mean the horse prices are too expensive.

You're supposed to be looking at it from the perspective of a brand new player who doesn't know the ins and outs of the game yet. When I start a new game, I don't research market prices - I go out, explore, do random quests and don't worry about longterm investments. There's no way in hell I'd be farming flowers at level 10 instead of you know, actually having fun.

However, I don't think horse prices are too high. I had some trouble with my first character, as I imagine most people did, but not with alts. And even my main could afford the 17k horse about halfway through her alliance, so it wasn't bad (I waited for the 42k horse though).

GaldorP · October 2014

Let's see. It takes a player with a VR character about ~8 hours to get that much gold if they're just doing VR quests so they can afford the most expensive mount in the game about when they reach VR 2. The same player can also make 20k+ gold per hour just farming resources in Craglorn (any VR char has access to it).
> Doesn't seem very expensive for MMOG standards.

About player housing:
- If it's not instanced, there would soon be like 50k houses in Tamriel (on each server).
- If it's instanced, the server would probably have to handle an additional several thousand instances or more at peak times (but that could work I guess).

Divad Zarn · October 2014

To say truth its not so high, especially if you know how to make money, if you don't, but know how to economy gold - you will have 42k horse for ~30 lvl only with quest rewards gold (in order if you dont spent money on trash like vendor equipment and repairing all the time from dying).

Greatfellow · October 2014

I'd say horses should cost half as much.

Merlin13KAGL · October 2014

ThePonzzz wrote: »

Outside PvP, I don't see a huge need for a horse.

Kinda this...

Once you unlock wayshrines, it's not that hard to get from point A to point B, and starting out, if you're riding all the time, you're probably missing things

At level 10 you're not using set items...you're using whatever you (just) found in the barrel.

The main benefit I see at first is for carry capacity. Gold is sparse at first, but quickly becomes quite easy to come by, whether you're trying or not, unless you outright avoid things.

Same with bank upgrades. Yeah, they're expensive, but they eventually pay for themselves.

Nestor · October 2014

EternalDiva wrote: »

xaraan, I dunno what your secret is, but most folks I know arent making big bugs from the start. Its not that easy to save 14000 for....

Alts. I can take a higher level Alt through a public dungeon a few times and have the gold I need to buy any horse in the game.

The first character made, they suffer poverty for the first 20 or 30 levels. But, now my alts are fully equipped and ready to go. In fact, just because I use higher level alts to make equipment for them, and improve it, I find the Alts have way more money at the lower levels than my initial character(s) ever did.

As for Horses, the 1G Imperial Edition Horse is all I need. 20 Bag spaces and the rest in speed gets me where I need to be in a short enough period of time. I have the money to buy the fast horse, and wont' spend it. Then again, I don't do much in Cyrodill and that is the only map where a speedy horse can make a difference in the game play.

IrishGirlGamer · October 2014

ThePonzzz wrote: »

Outside PvP, I don't see a huge need for a horse.

This. I do see the need for bag and bank upgrades (I have 100 bank slots and two alts with 90 slots), so I can store rare crafting materials until I'm ready to sell them. I've made about 40k just doing that.

But I have the Imperial edition and I've never, ever bought my 1 gold horse. Ever.

Equinophobic? Perhaps ...