Fix Dragon Leap NOW!!

michaelb14a_ESO2 · October 2014

msawwan2ub17_ESO wrote: »

I really hate to call people out on forums, but please spare yourself the embarrassment.

first of all, the skill is called "take flight" for a reason, its meant for people to fLY

second, if 20 AD cant kill 3 dragon knights that jumped over their keep walls and tanked you and the guards without support from their group at the bottom, you need to make a new char, new build, ask someone for help. do something.

you guys are sooooooooo bad its soooooooo sad.

ltp = learn to play

its not an exploit you dum dum, why do you think take flight have 50 million meter range? what to kill mobs in dungeons? sure not ...

I think you just embarrassed yourself....

Grim13 · October 2014

Braidas wrote: »

Grim13 wrote: »

Bloodmayne from the southeast tower. Just had 3-4 EP DKs leap into the keep.

Fix it already, zos.

can you not kill them? lol

Yeah, I dark cloak failed them to death...

..or, I ran away and told everyone. lol

Luvsfuzzybunnies · October 2014

MormondPayne_EP wrote: »

I don't know if it works as intended or not but there is one particular DC player who is quite fond of doing this, unfortunately I can't name him here but here is how my self and some mates deal with him.

1) Set up 3-4 oil pots in the corner tower of the keep.
2) Send the "bait" out onto the corner section of the keep and do a little jig, some pushups or sit in the chair to entice said player.
3) As the dragon night leaps in, we all drop oil, someone drops some CC and we all have a good laugh.

Note; this does not stop him from continuing to do this but you would have though he would get sick of dying in a hot oil bath but no, he continues to fall for the trap.

Funny I know exactly who you are talking about. Aux with an e I'd say.

Cysapper · October 2014

kijima wrote: »

I've seen this done myself, no one class should be able to scale/jump onto a wall of a keep period.

@ZOS_GinaBruno‌

Can you please pass this on.

lol sorcs can bolt escape there and nightblades can use ambush the same way also so nerf every class !

Columba · October 2014

just put a mage rune on the ledge. instant death.

Domander · October 2014

Tintinabula wrote: »

And..ladders are in the game..they're part of destroying siege equipment the first 20 levels or so EP side.

I wish we could use them.....

booksmcread wrote: »

I baited a couple into leaping to me last night while I was on a tall wall. If you bash them just before they are about to land...

lol

jkirchner71ub17_ESO2 · October 2014

The new one, well maybe not new one but the first time I saw it personally, is jumping from a tall rock outside Fare onto the corner of the keep. Saw about four DKs do it this afternoon in a row despite the wall not being breached yet. I won't mention names other than maybe "Pappa Smurf" and some other smurfs from his village. I won't lie when I say it looked cool as hell & fun but it shouldn't be possible if the keep has not been breached. I would imagine had the keep not been defended the next leap would have been from the tower to the inner keep to then drop down and take the flags. Even as a DK this does not sit well with me. By the way the DKs did die in this siege and Fare was defended successfully.

Braidas · October 2014

jkirchner71ub17_ESO2 wrote: »

The new one, well maybe not new one but the first time I saw it personally, is jumping from a tall rock outside Fare onto the corner of the keep. Saw about four DKs do it this afternoon in a row despite the wall not being breached yet. I won't mention names other than maybe "Pappa Smurf" and some other smurfs from his village. I won't lie when I say it looked cool as hell & fun but it shouldn't be possible if the keep has not been breached. I would imagine had the keep not been defended the next leap would have been from the tower to the inner keep to then drop down and take the flags. Even as a DK this does not sit well with me. By the way the DKs did die in this siege and Fare was defended successfully.

ya not new

papa smurf ahaha

Blackthorn51 · October 2014

While I personally don't care for DKs I have to support them here. I mean... Come on dude they got wings for **** sake! Even when it happens to me I cant help but think 'Damn that was kind of bad ass watching that DK fly through the air on to the Keep.' If you don't want them to do it, then just mind where your standing and stop standing at the corner of keeps with large cliffs and platforms that allow them to do so. Identify the places that they can fly to and avoid them.

For the record my own team has been wiped by Sura more times than I can count using that same method. As much as we cursed his name we all couldn't help but appreciate how bad ass it was. We just made a rule to stop standing in certain areas during a defense and the problem sorted itself out.

Yusuf · October 2014

I'm not a DK but i want this to STAY. Period.
It's a fun thing to happen, whether on the enemy-side or even to me. The DK will just die in a few seconds anyway so just leave it like that.

Blackthorn51 · October 2014

Yeah for real. Unless the DK is Sura (when he was the emp) they really arent going to unbalance the battle. They may score a few kills but how is that any different than killing someone 20 feet below on the ground? Please let this stay in game! It's damn near one of the coolest things I've seen done in a siege.

æxæ · October 2014

Man, rename this game already to (N)ESO.
(Nerfing) Everything Somewhat Overpowered.

Rylana · October 2014

Give me back chain pulls off of keep walls and we got a deal.

Its complete BS that people can just stand on the edge of a wall and spam attacks without even being under cover. They get range bonus near keep as well so it is impossible to get into range to hit one without exposing to the other 20 standing next to them.

So there ya go, let em jump on the walls, I dont care, it gives you noobs standing spamming poison injection all over the place a reason to STAND BACK.

riverdragon72 · October 2014

A little block and or a little fire ring sends them right back where they came from... good fun!

Hortator Indoril Nerevar · October 2014

Lordballak69 wrote: »

Watched 3 [snip] dragonknights jump over outer wall and then jump over inner wall without using 1 piece of siege.. FIX THIS NOW!! this exploit has been in the game for a LONG time and every update it is completely forgotten.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]

Didnt you hear?...
They are DK they should be able to one hit anyone, tele, spawn gear, ***, pillage and really do what ever they want...

themdogesbite · October 2014

Haven't seen any posts about leaping inside outposts yet, Dissapointed!

Maulkin · October 2014

Is this the right thread to ask for a reversion of the chain pull nerf?

Redlags · October 2014

No way, No way, No way. NB here, I hate fighting good DKs 1v1 if the circumstances don't suit me. For a few cheaters that pulled their friends into keeps, they nerfed an ability that made farming keep defense so much easier without DKs being able to pull you off of a wall. Now when they build to morph for farther dragon leaps you're gonna want that nerfed? Please don't nerf DKs dragon leap. I can kill an average dk with my build. I'm not built to kill a super tanker. That's my weakness and when I die to one. I won't cry. Don't nerf dragon leap.

I love watching a Sypher vid where he dragon leaps onto a tower. That's awesome. I think NBs should get to climb walls like DAoC but that's another story. Don't nerf people. If you're not build to solo them. Get friends. No friends around. Shrug you're loss or build to kill them.

Edit: We build our characters and sometimes we're situational. Don't get frustrated when you're caught out of your builds prowess. Just say, I'm not built to handle that. Don't take it to heart. Don't ask for nerfs. I promise you. Whatever situation you got caught up in and want the other class nerfed. You can build to handle it, BUT you're gonna get your rear kicked in another situation. And want that nerfed. Just deal with your build and understand your situations. When you're caught out of them and weak. Say, good job, you played me to my weakness. Let's not cry nerf to any class. I play them all.

Nicko_Lps · October 2014

Yes nerf this nerf that,also i suggest DK/s to have 1 leg instead of 2 so they wont walk they will just crawl for noobs to easykill.

Also i suggest remove the DK/s self heals and when they use it heal the opponent,AoE heal to the opponents please.

Also i suggest nerf DK/s standard of might instead of AoE damage to do a damage shield for enemy noobs.

ETC ETC.

I play a DK and im a normal player not the best not the worst.

STAY AWAY FROM DK = DK DIES

What else u want? ....

themizario · October 2014

Tintinabula wrote: »

if you stand too close to the edge and a DK can target you..they can jump to you with "Take flight.' If you get targeted by a night blade as you're pressing E to go through a door to a keep they can in fact ambush you into the keep.

@ZOS_GinaBruno‌ ^this, let's get this NB issue fixed, happening more than take flight

@ZOS_MattFiror‌ ^sad state of PvP, nerf chains, nerf dragon leap, nerf NB teleport strike. What else can we nerf....oil. ..of wait youre doing that....how about meat bags? Cause everyone will be using those after oil is nerfed. Nerf it now!!!

Let's nerf, bolt escape again sorcs arent dying where and when I want them to....while your at it, let's nerf DK standard and negate and veiled....nerf more Vamp skills, nerf WW after you buff it - like my god what have we done!? We made WW too OP....

What else... blazing shield. ..nerf forward camps cause troll camps...nerf seige walls cause as it stands it takes too long. But wait then nerf repairs because they rebuild it too fast. So unreal....stfu seriously you're playing a video game! !!!!!

<climbs down off of soap box>

Thank you.

Asgari · October 2014

Lordballak69 wrote: »

Here is an easy fix.. Take Flight : Deals X Damage to enemies within 6.5 meter radius. All affected enemies are knocked back. Player is affected with weakness for 8 seconds (weakness = -1000 Resistances and armor. While player is under weakness status the player moves at 1/2 speed)

There.. you can jump over walls.. but when you do you put yourself at a large risk for a short amount of time.. figure something like this would still allow this to happen, but make it less of an OP move.

This has to be a troll. No sensable person would consider this a "Fix" lmfao.

Regardless, the DK has used his ULT to omg TAKE FLIGHT! Now with ZERO ult like many have stated they must kill or be killed to gain additional ult. If a Keep defense cant kill 1 DK then they cant defend said keep either.

Sypher · October 2014

I personally like the whole idea of leaping into keeps. It keeps things interesting. For everyone.

Redlags · October 2014

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

I personally like the whole idea of leaping into keeps. It keeps things interesting. For everyone.

It's spectacular Im playing a NB. I watch videos and it looks so fun for them. Just take your loss with a grain of salt. Don't try to get classes nerfed.

Sypher · October 2014

Also, any class can leap into a keep.

As long as they are a werewolf

Not as effective as the DK leap, but it's possible.

Asgari · October 2014

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

Also, any class can leap into a keep.

As long as they are a werewolf
Not as effective as the DK leap, but it's possible.

It is just another everyday case of nerf this nerf that! People will always complain about everything and anything that they deem unfair to them because they mentally can't handle the challenge and overcome it.

Agrippa_Invisus · October 2014

If you can't deal with a handful of DKs leaping into a keep, you have issues beyond game balance.

Skylandra · October 2014

I am surprised there have not been calls to ban DK outright....

Imagine if there were only NB's left in Cyrodiil - would solve ALL the balance issues

kijima · October 2014

Any Bow user worth their salt can use their bow to knock back the intruder off the wall once there up.

While it's fun watching a DK take flight, it's hilarious to watch them take flight only to find themselves down the bottom outside the keep again wondering WTF happened.

Tried this, it's snorting coffee out your nose funny.

Rylana · October 2014

One of these days I am going to take the firebomber to a contested keep and do this, and wipe their entire defensive siege line with 1400+ DPS before they even know what hit them.

>_> One of these days. When I am bored. When I am not busy. Like maybe right now.

JonzzLonewolf · October 2014

I solo leaped into an inner and died. What a noob