AD Thornbabies on Haderus

WarrioroftheWind_ESO · October 2014

Well after many months (literally) of EP struggling to gain traction in NA Haderus, we finally managed to crown our emp thanks to the aid of multiple coordinated raid groups. It was a monumental achievement for the one guy on the leaderboards who'd been consistently top place for being a outstanding player.

Then the babies showed up. I didn't recognize 2/3 the names I saw on the enemy side, but they didn't give us more than an hour to hold our prize before swarming on en masse to sweep the map again. The population bar didn't even go up to 2. Guesting, travel to player sissies. Well congratulations you got emp for someone who said in his own words that 'the majority of AD on haderus doesn't care about buffs they just want to get rank 3 for the week".

Glad to see you do so well on TB with all your prize buffs though.

Nala_ · October 2014

you mean you pvdoord 6 emp keeps before anyone realized it and went to the campaign to help it, then you got crushed and came to the forums to cry about it. sounds about right

WarrioroftheWind_ESO · October 2014

We actually met with staunch resistance early on. It was after we took the ring then tried fro scrolls that we started getting AD guesters and travellers. EP had at least 2-3 coordinated groups running. AD just had sheer numbers as usual, and barely a fraction of them 'native' to the server.

This is why they should do away with guesting and travel in pvp period. Zeni keeps trying to straddle the fence on the issue saying 'oh well people need to be able to play with their friends". you got friends? home on their server then. Otherwise there's no attachment to play on a server except when your buffs go byebye and you go into berserk mode.

Nala_ · October 2014

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

We actually met with staunch resistance early on. It was after we took the ring then tried fro scrolls that we started getting AD guesters and travellers. EP had at least 2-3 coordinated groups running. AD just had sheer numbers as usual, and barely a fraction of them 'native' to the server.

This is why they should do away with guesting and travel in pvp period. Zeni keeps trying to straddle the fence on the issue saying 'oh well people need to be able to play with their friends". you got friends? home on their server then. Otherwise there's no attachment to play on a server except when your buffs go byebye and you go into berserk mode.

why the hell would someone GUEST onto haderus, or travel to friends on a server theyre not homed on since they dont get buffs? are you mentally challenged?

Ezareth · October 2014

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

We actually met with staunch resistance early on. It was after we took the ring then tried fro scrolls that we started getting AD guesters and travellers. EP had at least 2-3 coordinated groups running. AD just had sheer numbers as usual, and barely a fraction of them 'native' to the server.

This is why they should do away with guesting and travel in pvp period. Zeni keeps trying to straddle the fence on the issue saying 'oh well people need to be able to play with their friends". you got friends? home on their server then. Otherwise there's no attachment to play on a server except when your buffs go byebye and you go into berserk mode.

"Staunch resistance" early on. I was the only guy defending half the keeps you took and I have the video to prove it. Your "Emp" is the most active of all of you but spends most of his time getting gate defense ticks. I've even seen members of the regular group AFK and auto attacking in the gate walls so they don't get DC'ed. Even the final keep had less than 10 people defending it against at least 30-40 EP.

Either way Haderus is still a buff server. I didn't desire emp, I was only sick of playing on the unstable laggy mess that is Thornblade so decided to PvP here this week...and I only did it heavily for 1 day. I'd rather Sura had remained emp for the rest of Haderus existence.

Nala_ · October 2014

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

We actually met with staunch resistance early on. It was after we took the ring then tried fro scrolls that we started getting AD guesters and travellers. EP had at least 2-3 coordinated groups running. AD just had sheer numbers as usual, and barely a fraction of them 'native' to the server.

This is why they should do away with guesting and travel in pvp period. Zeni keeps trying to straddle the fence on the issue saying 'oh well people need to be able to play with their friends". you got friends? home on their server then. Otherwise there's no attachment to play on a server except when your buffs go byebye and you go into berserk mode.

"Staunch resistance" early on. I was the only guy defending half the keeps you took and I have the video to prove it. Your "Emp" is the most active of all of you but spends most of his time getting gate defense ticks. I've even seen members of the regular group AFK and auto attacking in the gate walls so they don't get DC'ed. Even the final keep had less than 10 people defending it against at least 30-40 EP.

Either way Haderus is still a buff server. I didn't desire emp, I was only sick of playing on the unstable laggy mess that is Thornblade so decided to PvP here this week...and I only did it heavily for 1 day. I'd rather Sura had remained emp for the rest of Haderus existence.

you mean tired of getting scraped by everyone on thorn because you are terrible, so you went to a buff server no one plays on to try to get the gold rewards? yes.

Agrippa_Invisus · October 2014

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

We actually met with staunch resistance early on. It was after we took the ring then tried fro scrolls that we started getting AD guesters and travellers. EP had at least 2-3 coordinated groups running. AD just had sheer numbers as usual, and barely a fraction of them 'native' to the server.

This is why they should do away with guesting and travel in pvp period. Zeni keeps trying to straddle the fence on the issue saying 'oh well people need to be able to play with their friends". you got friends? home on their server then. Otherwise there's no attachment to play on a server except when your buffs go byebye and you go into berserk mode.

"Staunch resistance" early on. I was the only guy defending half the keeps you took and I have the video to prove it. Your "Emp" is the most active of all of you but spends most of his time getting gate defense ticks. I've even seen members of the regular group AFK and auto attacking in the gate walls so they don't get DC'ed. Even the final keep had less than 10 people defending it against at least 30-40 EP.

Either way Haderus is still a buff server. I didn't desire emp, I was only sick of playing on the unstable laggy mess that is Thornblade so decided to PvP here this week...and I only did it heavily for 1 day. I'd rather Sura had remained emp for the rest of Haderus existence.

I can see it now:

/tell Ezareth, There's someone farming KC lumbermill, can you come wipe them?

/tell Ezareth, We keep getting ganked going through the Gate of Alma Ruma, can you come wipe them?

/tell Ezareth, Some DC captured Chalman and claimed it for 'I am AOE Barbecue', can you help us take the keep back?

/tell Ezareth, There are some reds in Blackboot with the Elder Scroll of Ghartok and are farming. We have trials and 30 minutes and really need the buffs back. Can you come wipe them?

/tell Ezareth, How do I use siege?

/tell Ezareth, What do you mean I can't use a ram on the side door. It should work on all doors!

/tell Ezareth, I died in PVP, and I don't like it. Come kill these guys!

Ezareth · October 2014

Nala_ wrote: »

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

We actually met with staunch resistance early on. It was after we took the ring then tried fro scrolls that we started getting AD guesters and travellers. EP had at least 2-3 coordinated groups running. AD just had sheer numbers as usual, and barely a fraction of them 'native' to the server.

This is why they should do away with guesting and travel in pvp period. Zeni keeps trying to straddle the fence on the issue saying 'oh well people need to be able to play with their friends". you got friends? home on their server then. Otherwise there's no attachment to play on a server except when your buffs go byebye and you go into berserk mode.

"Staunch resistance" early on. I was the only guy defending half the keeps you took and I have the video to prove it. Your "Emp" is the most active of all of you but spends most of his time getting gate defense ticks. I've even seen members of the regular group AFK and auto attacking in the gate walls so they don't get DC'ed. Even the final keep had less than 10 people defending it against at least 30-40 EP.

Either way Haderus is still a buff server. I didn't desire emp, I was only sick of playing on the unstable laggy mess that is Thornblade so decided to PvP here this week...and I only did it heavily for 1 day. I'd rather Sura had remained emp for the rest of Haderus existence.

you mean tired of getting scraped by everyone on thorn because you are terrible, so you went to a buff server no one plays on to try to get the gold rewards? yes.

That's funny because I was earning more AP solo on Thornblade than the current Emp...but whatever helps you sleep at night...whoever you are.

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

We actually met with staunch resistance early on. It was after we took the ring then tried fro scrolls that we started getting AD guesters and travellers. EP had at least 2-3 coordinated groups running. AD just had sheer numbers as usual, and barely a fraction of them 'native' to the server.

This is why they should do away with guesting and travel in pvp period. Zeni keeps trying to straddle the fence on the issue saying 'oh well people need to be able to play with their friends". you got friends? home on their server then. Otherwise there's no attachment to play on a server except when your buffs go byebye and you go into berserk mode.

"Staunch resistance" early on. I was the only guy defending half the keeps you took and I have the video to prove it. Your "Emp" is the most active of all of you but spends most of his time getting gate defense ticks. I've even seen members of the regular group AFK and auto attacking in the gate walls so they don't get DC'ed. Even the final keep had less than 10 people defending it against at least 30-40 EP.

Either way Haderus is still a buff server. I didn't desire emp, I was only sick of playing on the unstable laggy mess that is Thornblade so decided to PvP here this week...and I only did it heavily for 1 day. I'd rather Sura had remained emp for the rest of Haderus existence.

I can see it now:

/tell Ezareth, There's someone farming KC lumbermill, can you come wipe them?

/tell Ezareth, We keep getting ganked going through the Gate of Alma Ruma, can you come wipe them?

/tell Ezareth, Some DC captured Chalman and claimed it for 'I am AOE Barbecue', can you help us take the keep back?

/tell Ezareth, There are some reds in Blackboot with the Elder Scroll of Ghartok and are farming. We have trials and 30 minutes and really need the buffs back. Can you come wipe them?

/tell Ezareth, How do I use siege?

/tell Ezareth, What do you mean I can't use a ram on the side door. It should work on all doors!

/tell Ezareth, I died in PVP, and I don't like it. Come kill these guys!

It has already begun /=

Some guy whispered me offering to pay me vast sums of gold for me and my "group" to farm him Emp. When I told him I did it solo he called BS as if farming on Haderus solo were impossible. Even were farming him emp possible I told him I've always stood by earning Emp, not trading it. I've finished #2 in AP overall in 3 campaigns and never once did I ask the existing Emp to step down. Then he got angry and challenged me to a duel. /facepalm

I'm sure Sura is going to have his first good night's sleep in 2 months tonight. Unfortunately a Sorc Emp can't be nearly as effective as a DK Emp without going impulse spam/bats/negate spam and I've always hated AoE in PvP.

Still I expect the cries of exploits and god knows what will be soon coming ( :

Rylana · October 2014

Ezareth is easy to kill, just fire ballista him when he inevitably crashes.

Also lol @ sura finally being deposed.

driosketch · October 2014

Rylana wrote: »

Also lol @ sura finally being deposed.

This is the most important piece of news in this thread.

Huntler · October 2014

OP

Nala_ · October 2014

well ezareth just does 0 damage, so its not hard to kill him or make him just bolt escape away and run

Ifthir_ESO · October 2014

Nala_ wrote: »

you mean tired of getting scraped by everyone on thorn because you are terrible, so you went to a buff server no one plays on to try to get the gold rewards? yes.

Have you admitted to a character yet?

Rylana · October 2014

It amuses me to no end that on this campaign I openly play both AD and EP, and still manage to get into groups.

People dont seem to care I kill my own allies from an hour before >_>

Feels good man. This is real PvP, merc style.

WarrioroftheWind_ESO · October 2014

I call BS on the 'no defense' thing. I remember the first attempt when we had Ales, Chal, and BRK got stomped because the Emp and other big names were on (Emp hopped into BRK and crushed the guards. Typical) I've participated in more resource node last stands and home keep sieges to recognize off the bat 'native' AD players.

I kid you not 2/3 of the 'retaliation zerg' I DID not recognize and were sporting varieties of lucky charms next to their names, and alot of members of the EP siege group identified them as TB. People DO guest into Haderus for the express reason of preserving the AD buffs.

This has nothing to do with 'oh you lost qq river of gushing tears". What alot of the people that endorse and enforce the 'buff server' environment don't realize how severely they're shooting themselves in the foot. The behavior they exhibit just perpetuates the downward spiral of the pvp community. Dominant factions can get their pvp kicks from a bare handful of persistent regulars trying to establish forward targets, but what happens if the opposing facs just give up entirely? Then how will you get any action? Haderus isn't a 'buff server'. It's a PVP server. There needs to be a rough balance to achieve proper PVP.

And gdi DC get off your butts and do something. Your score been sitting at 0 for days and just today I noticed it eeked into double digits.

Cody · October 2014

guys guys.... you are all zerg blobers who spam puncturing strikes and bolt escape the entire battle... you are all equal in skill... no need to fight:D

serious time:

you cant be surprised. Its ADs buff server, they want their precious 5% buffs, they don't care they are potentially ruining the game for many other players... over 5% buffs.....(guess the emp buff may be worth it)

until traveling to player and guesting is either re-worked or eliminated, and buffs no longer being usuable outside of the home campaign, this nonsense will continue.

nothing else I can say.

WarrioroftheWind_ESO · October 2014

Well I must say that was all kinds of nuts. Many thanks to Hijinx and various prominent EP guilds for helping us take the map-and holding it- for the first time in forever. All it took was as many lucky charms as AD had as well as holding their attention at BRK while the other groups staged strategic sieges. ;/ the night didn't go without its share of client crashes tho, on both sides.

Rylana · October 2014

I am all for what red pulled off tonight, that was a well organized raid.

The ONE thing that actually pissed me off is something that happened right at the end with the Mnem scroll.

For weeks red players posted multiple threads with hundreds of replies about putting camps behind gates being wrong/against the spirit of the game.

You had the numbers to go through the gate fairly, it would have been long and bloody but the eventual outcome was inevitable.

You didnt have to be bad sports and cheat the last scroll like that, it sort of tarnished your entire achievement. (and one very very vocal person so against it on these very forums was IN that raid, which makes it even worse. you are now a hypocrite, mr ghostbuster)

That being said, running face first into your 20 man group east of BRK and forcing Bam to drop the scroll nearly entirely by myself was a hilarious end to my part in the night. Can do a lot of things, but I cant take 20 people solo (got a few kills through, ha!)

WarrioroftheWind_ESO · October 2014

I was wondering how the heck those got back there. But I think there's a more pressing question.

Why the fruit does AD and DC have archer AND footmen guards but all EP has are the spaz case mages and menders??

Qyrk · October 2014

Would like to thank the Reds for a tough fight and congrats on claiming the map. It was such an long ordeal battle throughout the night, going into the morning. But beware, AD will rise again

. Great fun guys.

Blackthorn51 · October 2014

Tonight we settled all affairs.

Agrippa_Invisus · October 2014

Rylana wrote: »

I am all for what red pulled off tonight, that was a well organized raid.

The ONE thing that actually pissed me off is something that happened right at the end with the Mnem scroll.

For weeks red players posted multiple threads with hundreds of replies about putting camps behind gates being wrong/against the spirit of the game.

You had the numbers to go through the gate fairly, it would have been long and bloody but the eventual outcome was inevitable.

You didnt have to be bad sports and cheat the last scroll like that, it sort of tarnished your entire achievement. (and one very very vocal person so against it on these very forums was IN that raid, which makes it even worse. you are now a hypocrite, mr ghostbuster)

That being said, running face first into your 20 man group east of BRK and forcing Bam to drop the scroll nearly entirely by myself was a hilarious end to my part in the night. Can do a lot of things, but I cant take 20 people solo (got a few kills through, ha!)

I couldn't tell you who put a camp up like that. We do not condone behind the gate camps at all, considering it an exploit of game mechanics.

The primary organized team that was hitting the server called it a night after dethroning the Haderus emperor. The three scrolls (one blue, two yellow) left on the map were no able to provide buffs to anyone, so that was sufficient to us.

Plus, it was 2:30 am by that point and we all wanted to go to bed.

WarrioroftheWind_ESO · October 2014

Well 4 hours is better than 45 minutes I suppose but for crying out loud AD you couldn't give it a rest? We suffered for 2 months and you couldn't live without your precious buffs for 2 minutes? This is precisely why they need to just do away with guesting and travel to player. If it was just the native population there'd be a chance for balance with counter sieges and the like, but when you have a faction community so lopsided as this it's ridiculous.

Blackthorn51 · October 2014

I've lost all respect for AD players. QQing and refusing to do trials until you get your buffs back. You guys are pathetic.

Sypher · October 2014

Congrats Ezareth!

@OP chill out man. It's their buff server so why the hell are you surprised that they defended it with huge numbers.

If you want to take it from them then body up buddy.

Durham · October 2014

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

Well after many months (literally) of EP struggling to gain traction in NA Haderus, we finally managed to crown our emp thanks to the aid of multiple coordinated raid groups. It was a monumental achievement for the one guy on the leaderboards who'd been consistently top place for being a outstanding player.

Then the babies showed up. I didn't recognize 2/3 the names I saw on the enemy side, but they didn't give us more than an hour to hold our prize before swarming on en masse to sweep the map again. The population bar didn't even go up to 2. Guesting, travel to player sissies. Well congratulations you got emp for someone who said in his own words that 'the majority of AD on haderus doesn't care about buffs they just want to get rank 3 for the week".

Glad to see you do so well on TB with all your prize buffs though.

You interupted the pvper's you should know better... this concept needs to be fixed.

Blackthorn51 · October 2014

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

Congrats Ezareth!

@OP chill out man. It's their buff server so why the hell are you surprised that they defended it with huge numbers.

If you want to take it from them then body up buddy.

We did take it from them. We finally crowned a deserving emp who dedicated 8+ hours a day toward it and AD through a hysterical crying fit. They refused to do trials till they got their buffs back then zerged and pvdoored while all of us were asleep to reclaim it.

News flash. If you AD cant do trials without buffs, please uninstall your game because you clearly don't know how to play.

What is AD going to do when buff servers go away? You guys lose every encounter where you don't outnumber us 10 to 1.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Flaming]

serenenightmare · October 2014

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

We actually met with staunch resistance early on. It was after we took the ring then tried fro scrolls that we started getting AD guesters and travellers. EP had at least 2-3 coordinated groups running. AD just had sheer numbers as usual, and barely a fraction of them 'native' to the server.

This is why they should do away with guesting and travel in pvp period. Zeni keeps trying to straddle the fence on the issue saying 'oh well people need to be able to play with their friends". you got friends? home on their server then. Otherwise there's no attachment to play on a server except when your buffs go byebye and you go into berserk mode.

"Staunch resistance" early on. I was the only guy defending half the keeps you took and I have the video to prove it. Your "Emp" is the most active of all of you but spends most of his time getting gate defense ticks. I've even seen members of the regular group AFK and auto attacking in the gate walls so they don't get DC'ed. Even the final keep had less than 10 people defending it against at least 30-40 EP.

Either way Haderus is still a buff server. I didn't desire emp, I was only sick of playing on the unstable laggy mess that is Thornblade so decided to PvP here this week...and I only did it heavily for 1 day. I'd rather Sura had remained emp for the rest of Haderus existence.

I can see it now:

/tell Ezareth, There's someone farming KC lumbermill, can you come wipe them?

/tell Ezareth, We keep getting ganked going through the Gate of Alma Ruma, can you come wipe them?

/tell Ezareth, Some DC captured Chalman and claimed it for 'I am AOE Barbecue', can you help us take the keep back?

/tell Ezareth, There are some reds in Blackboot with the Elder Scroll of Ghartok and are farming. We have trials and 30 minutes and really need the buffs back. Can you come wipe them?

/tell Ezareth, How do I use siege?

/tell Ezareth, What do you mean I can't use a ram on the side door. It should work on all doors!

/tell Ezareth, I died in PVP, and I don't like it. Come kill these guys!

I'll have you know I was responsible for claiming Chalman for We are Aoe Barbecue.

Agrippa_Invisus · October 2014

serenenightmare wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

We actually met with staunch resistance early on. It was after we took the ring then tried fro scrolls that we started getting AD guesters and travellers. EP had at least 2-3 coordinated groups running. AD just had sheer numbers as usual, and barely a fraction of them 'native' to the server.

This is why they should do away with guesting and travel in pvp period. Zeni keeps trying to straddle the fence on the issue saying 'oh well people need to be able to play with their friends". you got friends? home on their server then. Otherwise there's no attachment to play on a server except when your buffs go byebye and you go into berserk mode.

"Staunch resistance" early on. I was the only guy defending half the keeps you took and I have the video to prove it. Your "Emp" is the most active of all of you but spends most of his time getting gate defense ticks. I've even seen members of the regular group AFK and auto attacking in the gate walls so they don't get DC'ed. Even the final keep had less than 10 people defending it against at least 30-40 EP.

Either way Haderus is still a buff server. I didn't desire emp, I was only sick of playing on the unstable laggy mess that is Thornblade so decided to PvP here this week...and I only did it heavily for 1 day. I'd rather Sura had remained emp for the rest of Haderus existence.

I can see it now:

/tell Ezareth, There's someone farming KC lumbermill, can you come wipe them?

/tell Ezareth, We keep getting ganked going through the Gate of Alma Ruma, can you come wipe them?

/tell Ezareth, Some DC captured Chalman and claimed it for 'I am AOE Barbecue', can you help us take the keep back?

/tell Ezareth, There are some reds in Blackboot with the Elder Scroll of Ghartok and are farming. We have trials and 30 minutes and really need the buffs back. Can you come wipe them?

/tell Ezareth, How do I use siege?

/tell Ezareth, What do you mean I can't use a ram on the side door. It should work on all doors!

/tell Ezareth, I died in PVP, and I don't like it. Come kill these guys!

I'll have you know I was responsible for claiming Chalman for We are Aoe Barbecue.

My apologies. I had the guild name wrong.

Qyrk · October 2014

Blackthorn51 wrote: »

They refused to do trials till they got their buffs back then zerged and pvdoored while all of us were asleep to reclaim it.

Hey mate, while I don't support the QQ that many AD reacted the way they did after they lost the map, to say that we pvdoored is ignorant. There are various time zones outside of U.S. that is primetime on period "where you guys are asleep", if you would like to defend it, get more people in those timezones.

EDIT: You might argue that people that reclaimed the map for AD are mostly within U.S. (although I've seen plenty Oceanics overnight to reclaim it). Instead of sleeping (as you say), they are claiming it back - same opportunity can be given for you guys to defend (instead of sleeping). To say that ANY alliance pvdoors just do not have a clue that various people plays at different time zones and it is expected that certain time slots may have skewed population of one alliance over another.

Agrippa_Invisus · October 2014

Qyrk wrote: »

Blackthorn51 wrote: »

They refused to do trials till they got their buffs back then zerged and pvdoored while all of us were asleep to reclaim it.

Hey mate, while I don't support the QQ that many AD reacted the way they did after they lost the map, to say that we pvdoored is ignorant. There are various time zones outside of U.S. that is primetime on period "where you guys are asleep", if you would like to defend it, get more people in those timezones.

You do realize, without magically generating new players in Oceania, that for EP and DC it requires NA based players to miss one of the following things:

Sleep.
School.
Work.

Can you guess which of these are more important than a video game?