ZOS why are you dodging these topics?

ExiledKhallisi · October 2014

1.
Block casting.

Either implement Block Attacking or remove the ability to cast while blocking.

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2.
Perm blocking

I think this was addressed but with no details.

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3.
Impulse.

Either make it block able or nerf it more. Or, make other AOE' s unable to be blocked.

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4.
Batswarm.

Lower the damage OR make it stationary. The cult cost is also extremely low for what it does some builds can maintain it almost indefinitely.

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5.
Night blades.

Other than the Initial burst jump from stealth their class sucks.

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6.
Guild tools.

Why are they so terrible? Add permissions/tabs The space is so bad for guild bank if u have a 500 player guild you literally get 1 bank slot per member. A complete joke.

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7.
Guild merchants

are a failed concept. The return on profit is not worth the cost of out biddi g other guilds. Give a special bonus to tabards to give a % of looted gold to guild bank this is a simple solution to help guilds afford to bid. I highly reccomend though, a blind lotto with a set cost. This makes it fair for all sizes of guilds.

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8.
Emperor.

This does not award skill at all. It awards neglecting family and friends and time played. Emperor skill line should ONLY work while you hold the title.

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9.
Some personal things to add.

-Why is there no weapon equivalent to inner light?
-Horses are to slow. Wtb lvl increase.
-Nirnhoned drops are to sparse.
-Why does reporting someone for harassment do nothing?
-Lack of dev involvement with paying customers is a real turn off. Get personal, get off hipster.com sorry I mean Reddit. Use the damn forums.

Love ya

This is a mail response from adean27 (Andrew) who attended the Guild Summit.

adean27 wrote:

Alright, let me see what I can answer here:

1. Block Casting: This is an issue, they recognize it as an issue, it's high on their list of fixes. One of the ideas being shot around was an increased cost for blocking and long term blocking, perhaps even adding a block resource bar. In addition, the reduction of attack abilities when in a a defense mode like this, so for example, massive resource increases on an attack while blocking, etc... This is something they are working hard on right now and was discussed in detail.

2. Perma Blocking: The resource bar would cause this to stop working very quickly, as the longer you did this, the more the resource would be used in higher increments.

3. Impulse: They are looking at instead of nerfing things like this, giving different options, so with Stamina build changes they want to make it so that you could use shield abilities and spells to protect against spell damage but not melee, etc.. so by adding more strategy to combat it would help. There was some private talk after the round tables about possible adding a cooldown or increasing resource requirements to insta-cast AoE's etc..

4. Batswarm: This one was put simply: "I'm constantly nerfing Vampires and they are still over powered". They recognize the issue and are trying to scale and balance the whole skill tree.

5. Nightblades: I disagree that the class sucks, one of my characters is a VR 14 Nightblade and I'm pretty dominant. However, the rebuilding of the stamina system and builds will solve a lot of these issues, I would suggest listening to the audio on this as their is several hours of skill rebalances mentioned.

6. Guild Tools: I mentioned this privately with the team. Such as guild mail, guild calendar's etc... they wrote it all down and want it in-game too. So I would look to that coming down the line at some point, it's definitely on their list.

7. Guild Merchants: We beat this one to death at lunch hour, but I can't honestly say what they are going to do with it, we didn't get a whole lot of confirmation on this.

8. Emperor: We discussed other things in relation to this. Removing the Emperor system is off the table, changing how it's obtained is up for discussion. One thing I spoke about was adding more positions, such as a Baron of a Keep etc, and giving them bonuses when defending that specific keep, other things people can aim for instead of just Emperor. We were told that they actually have the ability to add runner up ranks and are more than willing to do if that is something the players want, so that we have the ability to have more variation. They also are thinking of ways to stop or limit Emperor farming. Once again, lots on that in the audio.

9. Wow, haha.

A. Stamina changes will fix a lot of this. Stamina heal is actually incoming,

B. Horses were never really much cause for concern, I've not actually heard people complain too much about the speed, I feel mine is quite fast, but I do have it maxed for speed.

C. They are deliberately sparse to make it rare, it's not supposed to be stupidly easy to come by. You're going to see this more with the new resources they add.

D. Reporting came up quite a bit, there is some division in the company in regards to dealing with that. They try to deal with things as best they can, but they feel that it is hard to determine intent and they do not want to knee jerk reaction ban everyone. I mentioned how if a person is repeating the same behavior that they are indicating their intent. So that is something they are working on fixing, I feel they need to be more ban heavy.

E. That is something every game fights with, and I wish I had an answer for you, but it's a losing battle, uphill, both ways, in snow, rain, and volcanic ash,

Hope this helps,

Andrew

ExiledKhallisi · October 2014

I should also mention..

If you happen to be attacking while transforming into a werewolf..you get stuck in a hilarious position with your arms out and head up like your char is screaming in agony. You also move at snail speed. It is o my fixed by dying, transforming again or relogging.

Also, the werewolf can't break out of stuns.

jelliedsoup · October 2014

They did mention the block casting issue, but no fix was suggested. Guild summit day 2.

Sleep · October 2014

I heard that they might change block casting

Erock25 · October 2014

what the crap is block attacking and how is it different than block casting?

ExiledKhallisi · October 2014

Erock25 wrote: »

what the crap is block attacking and how is it different than block casting?

Block attacking doesn't exist..

Currently you can cast spells while blocking even though you can't see the animation for blocking. What I proposed was ZOS needs to either allow physical builds to do the same thing "block attacking" or disable blocking while casting. Phys builds can't block when using skills. Magicka builds can. Serious balance issue.

ExiledKhallisi · October 2014

Sleep wrote: »

I heard that they might change block casting

Hopefully.

Probitas · October 2014

Forcing players to pay a tax to be in a guild will quickly see your guild disband, not too many gamers are going to pay a guild for the privilege of being in it. At least this guy won't. The whole guild store system is itself a joke. They already pay a tax to post and sell, you charge more and I predict the system will collapse, that's taxation without any real representation at all, more of a dictatorship or monarchy. What happened to the last country that tried that with the US? If it's not working that's because the current economic model is unworkable in it's current state, and giving more money to the chief to toss into a hole bidding on a vendor spot isn't going to fix that. Just make it a bigger gold sink than it is now.

As far as PVP goes, magicka builds are what I like to call Easy Mode. Every MMO I've seen implement always has some group that can faceroll easily. All games have that class so the losers get to become the winners.

I've already done the most I can do as a player to state my level of appreciation for the current state of the game, and for future direction. Balls in your court now Z.

AshySamurai · October 2014

Some of your question was mentoined on guild summit. Also, Impulse is OP only because of zerg trains. And, IMO in fact, it's not OP. Sure, ZOS can nerf this skill ito oblivion, and zergs find another spamable skill and nothing changes.

AreoHotah · October 2014

Ah yes, bat swarm needs to be nerfed. If you have lotsbof spell damage and Crit you can jump in the middle of a zerg and take down at least 10 with you if they dont have impenetrable on all items. Thats just lame trolling.

ExiledKhallisi · October 2014

Probitas wrote: »

Forcing players to pay a tax to be in a guild will quickly see your guild disband, not too many gamers are going to pay a guild for the privilege of being in it. At least this guy won't. The whole guild store system is itself a joke. They already pay a tax to post and sell, you charge more and I predict the system will collapse, that's taxation without any real representation at all, more of a dictatorship or monarchy. What happened to the last country that tried that with the US? If it's not working that's because the current economic model is unworkable in it's current state, and giving more money to the chief to toss into a hole bidding on a vendor spot isn't going to fix that. Just make it a bigger gold sink than it is now.

As far as PVP goes, magicka builds are what I like to call Easy Mode. Every MMO I've seen implement always has some group that can faceroll easily. All games have that class so the losers get to become the winners.

I've already done the most I can do as a player to state my level of appreciation for the current state of the game, and for future direction. Balls in your court now Z.

The idea i proposed would be optional (if you wear the tabard) If you ever played wow the tabards gave an additional % of gold you looted to your guild. The players lost nothing. Players in this game want everything for free. They want organization and events and a bank etc, at no cost to them. Why should the guild pay for you to make profit when you do nothing for the guild? Also the "tax" you pay when posting stuff goes poof. You are paying gold to nobody.

ExiledKhallisi · October 2014

AshySamurai wrote: »

Some of your question was mentoined on guild summit. Also, Impulse is OP only because of zerg trains. And, IMO in fact, it's not OP. Sure, ZOS can nerf this skill ito oblivion, and zergs find another spamable skill and nothing changes.

No, what makes impulse OP is it cant be blocked. It is actually weaker as far as damage is concerned than some other AOE's. Steel Tornado deals more damage and Blazing Spear for a magicka based Templar does an insane amount of damage. But it can be blocked and doesnt cast from the player rather a positional ranged aoe.

KenjiJU · October 2014

Good suggestion about guild merchants.

Phantax · October 2014

Points 6 and 7 should definitely be addressed ! (not going to hold my breath waiting though)

ExiledKhallisi · October 2014

Phantax wrote: »

Points 6 and 7 should definitely be addressed ! (not going to hold my breath waiting though)

ZOS really needs to talk with players more here on the forums. I love ESO and am a huge fan of TES games. I also feel ZOS is doing a decent job so far. However, I have seen tiny indie dev groups with absolutely fantastic communication between their players. There is simply no excuse. Cmon ZOS, pop your head in here and make a couple fans happy.

AshySamurai · October 2014

ExiledKhallisi wrote: »

ZOS really needs to talk with players more here on the forums. I love ESO and am a huge fan of TES games. I also feel ZOS is doing a decent job so far. However, I have seen tiny indie dev groups with absolutely fantastic communication between their players. There is simply no excuse. Cmon ZOS, pop your head in here and make a couple fans happy.

If ZOS not answering for everyone doens't mean that they don't know about it. Developers don't want to communicate with players directly and I can't blame them. ZOS have community managers for this.

AlexDougherty · October 2014

ExiledKhallisi wrote: »

1.
Block casting.
Either implement Block Attacking or remove the ability to cast while blocking.
--
2.
Perm blocking
I think this was addressed but with no details.
--
3.
Impulse.
Either make it block able or nerf it more. Or, make other AOE' s unable to be blocked.
--
4.
Batswarm.
Lower the damage OR make it stationary. The cult cost is also extremely low for what it does some builds can maintain it almost indefinitely.
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5.
Night blades.
Other than the Initial burst jump from stealth their class sucks.
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6.
Guild tools.
Why are they so terrible? Add permissions/tabs The space is so bad for guild bank if u have a 500 player guild you literally get 1 bank slot per member. A complete joke.
--
7.
Guild merchants
are a failed concept. The return on profit is not worth the cost of out biddi g other guilds. Give a special bonus to tabards to give a % of looted gold to guild bank this is a simple solution to help guilds afford to bid. I highly reccomend though, a blind lotto with a set cost. This makes it fair for all sizes of guilds.
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8.
Emperor.
This does not award skill at all. It awards neglecting family and friends and time played. Emperor skill line should ONLY work while you hold the title.
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9.
Some personal things to add.
-Why is there no weapon equivalent to inner light?
-Horses are to slow. Wtb lvl increase.
-Nirnhoned drops are to sparse.
-Why does reporting someone for harassment do nothing?
-Lack of dev involvement with paying customers is a real turn off. Get personal, get off hipster.com sorry I mean Reddit. Use the damn forums.

Love ya

Block Casting, just remove it, don't add Block Attacking. You are either blocking or doing something, doing both is assinine.
No comment
Make it Blockable in PVP, but not PVE, I have a way for my sorceror to survive Dolmens, don't ruin that. But by all means fix it for PVP
Fine by me, but the Vamps might have some complaints, not that I care not being one.
Agreed, although plenty of others disagree.
no comment
I think guilds need to learn what the vendors are worth and stick to a budget.
A bit Harsh, but since I'll never have it, what objections can I legitimately have.
Below

-How would a weapon equivalent to inner light work? I get that inner light is basically a souped up detect life spell, but the equivalent? and what guild skill line would it go in?
-Horses are fine, if you put all the increases in stamina you can keep increasing until they go really fast (something in a thread from a mod about repeatedly pressing shift).
-I believe that's by design, but they probably could increase them.
-Can't comment, not involved so I don't know what they do.
-I agree that they should issue statements on these forums first, their own forums, before they make statements on other forums.

Razzak · October 2014

AshySamurai wrote: »

ExiledKhallisi wrote: »

ZOS really needs to talk with players more here on the forums. I love ESO and am a huge fan of TES games. I also feel ZOS is doing a decent job so far. However, I have seen tiny indie dev groups with absolutely fantastic communication between their players. There is simply no excuse. Cmon ZOS, pop your head in here and make a couple fans happy.

If ZOS not answering for everyone doens't mean that they don't know about it. Developers don't want to communicate with players directly and I can't blame them. ZOS have community managers for this.

And yet they do almost nothing more but PR. Just look at the summit thread. They were all over that thread when it was about promotion of the summit. Now, it's like there is no CS dept.
No one expects devs themselves to come here daily and talk to us, but someone should. Who is that someone? Those 20 that attended the summit?

AoEnwyr · October 2014

ExiledKhallisi wrote: »

1.
Get personal, get off hipster.com sorry I mean Reddit. Use the damn forums.

That much I can agree with. These are the official forums and should be the primary form of communication, not to mention the first point of contact. I shouldn't have to go hunting on social networks to find out what is going on.

Erock25 · October 2014

ExiledKhallisi wrote: »

Erock25 wrote: »

what the crap is block attacking and how is it different than block casting?

Block attacking doesn't exist..

Currently you can cast spells while blocking even though you can't see the animation for blocking. What I proposed was ZOS needs to either allow physical builds to do the same thing "block attacking" or disable blocking while casting. Phys builds can't block when using skills. Magicka builds can. Serious balance issue.

You can use any instant skill while blocking, whether it is from a weapon line or class line.

Teargrants · October 2014

ExiledKhallisi wrote: »

5.
Night blades.

Other than the Initial burst jump from stealth their class sucks.

You clearly are not familiar with NBs. What you describe are the bow NBs that are reliant on snipe opener rotations. That's what they're built for, they sacrifice all their survivability for that and have no one to blame but themselves. Not to mention, ZOS has actually stated what will be a concrete buff to these builds:

Bow

Poison Arrow – Increased the DoT component, but kept the base damage where it is
Volley – Increased the base damage
Arrow Spray – made the true area of effect more closely match the displayed template
Snipe – Reduced the cast time of snipe to become the bread-and-butter damaging ability for the bow line.
Long Shots (passive) – Reduced the range threshold required to receive the bonus to work well with the maximum range of all bow abilities

Siphon blades have great survivability, but lack in DPS. And two handed NBs absolutely wreck face.

Before you say NB class sucks and they're only good from stealth, you should watch and learn from my NB duo partner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFdJp1evqBo

I think the real issue here is, too many people who make NBs are doing it because they're envisioning some kind of rogue/ninja attacking from the shadows and vanishing. As such they limit themselves in the weapons and playstyle they use - it's hardly a coincidence that most use bow/dualwield, have limited sustain, and try to stealth away if their opening rotation doesn't insta gib you.

ExiledKhallisi · October 2014

Kirsika wrote: »

ExiledKhallisi wrote: »

5.
Night blades.

Other than the Initial burst jump from stealth their class sucks.

You clearly are not familiar with NBs. What you describe are the bow NBs that are reliant on snipe opener rotations. That's what they're built for, they sacrifice all their survivability for that and have no one to blame but themselves. Not to mention, ZOS has actually stated what will be a concrete buff to these builds:

Bow

Poison Arrow – Increased the DoT component, but kept the base damage where it is
Volley – Increased the base damage
Arrow Spray – made the true area of effect more closely match the displayed template
Snipe – Reduced the cast time of snipe to become the bread-and-butter damaging ability for the bow line.
Long Shots (passive) – Reduced the range threshold required to receive the bonus to work well with the maximum range of all bow abilities

Siphon blades have great survivability, but lack in DPS. And two handed NBs absolutely wreck face.

Before you say NB class sucks and they're only good from stealth, you should watch and learn from my NB duo partner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFdJp1evqBo

I think the real issue here is, too many people who make NBs are doing it because they're envisioning some kind of rogue/ninja attacking from the shadows and vanishing. As such they limit themselves in the weapons and playstyle they use - it's hardly a coincidence that most use bow/dualwield, have limited sustain, and try to stealth away if their opening rotation doesn't insta gib you.

In my personal experience, I don't lose vs Nightblades aside from the random sniping ever. In a head to head 1v1 fight vs either my Templar or Sorc, they stand no contest. I feel and judging by forums they lack defensive utilities.they have no armor and not enough shield/reflect. The templar I understand is a beast in 1v1.

Athas24 · October 2014

ExiledKhallisi wrote: »

-How would a weapon equivalent to inner light work? I get that inner light is basically a souped up detect life spell, but the equivalent? and what guild skill line would it go in?

A spell for weapon crit would just seem stupid. Passives work for that anyway so I agree here what skill line would even be used for this and would it be class based or guild or world or ??
Also..
Medium armor skills are a decent way to get your weapon crit just as high as someone using inner light does for spell crit. Since weapon attacks with a staff are magicka crit based, medium armor doesn't stack with it so you have 2 methods for crit bonus. Medium armor = physical and inner light= spell crit.

ExiledKhallisi · October 2014

Athas24 wrote: »

ExiledKhallisi wrote: »

-How would a weapon equivalent to inner light work? I get that inner light is basically a souped up detect life spell, but the equivalent? and what guild skill line would it go in?

A spell for weapon crit would just seem stupid. Passives work for that anyway so I agree here what skill line would even be used for this and would it be class based or guild or world or ??
Also..
Medium armor skills are a decent way to get your weapon crit just as high as someone using inner light does for spell crit. Since weapon attacks with a staff are magicka crit based, medium armor doesn't stack with it so you have 2 methods for crit bonus. Medium armor = physical and inner light= spell crit.

-Light armor passive Prodigy grants 10% spell crit with 2/2 if 5pc light is worn
-Med armor passive Dexterity grants 21% wep crit if 7 pieces of armor are worn

Inner light gives 20% crit at rank IV

30% Easily obtained spell crit with only 5pc of light worn

vs

21% wep crit with 7 pc med worn

Do you not see the difference? It doesnt have to be a spell, maybe a defensive aura that has something to do with stamina/taking damage and grants some crit.

khele23eb17_ESO · October 2014

Kirsika wrote: »

I think the real issue here is, too many people who make NBs are doing it because they're envisioning some kind of rogue/ninja attacking from the shadows and vanishing. As such they limit themselves in the weapons and playstyle they use - it's hardly a coincidence that most use bow/dualwield, have limited sustain, and try to stealth away if their opening rotation doesn't insta gib you.

Ah, so going dw/bow is limiting yourself but going staff is somehow an example of refined and elaborate gameplay... right. People who envision their NBs as a mobile skirmisher with an assassin/rogue/fencer theme are doing nothing more than expecting the game to live up to what it promised when they were picking their class and reading its description on the character creation screen. Im not saying thats the only playstyle that should be viable for the NB but it should be at least as viable as the 'caster' playstyles.

ShadoPanauin · October 2014

Stop complaining about impulse when templars are still dealing 5k damage with blazing shield and nightblades hitting 2k with snipe. Stop complaining about bat swarm. Without bats, vampire is 100% useless.

Tamanous · October 2014

Well point 5 is HIGHLY over generalized.

Jaxsun · October 2014

Get rid of the guild stores. Make a server wide trade network accessible by all to sell and buy from. Current system does not allow for proper pricing or grant enough items to purchase. Economy is non-existent.

Khami · October 2014

Probitas wrote: »

Forcing players to pay a tax to be in a guild will quickly see your guild disband, not too many gamers are going to pay a guild for the privilege of being in it. At least this guy won't. The whole guild store system is itself a joke. They already pay a tax to post and sell, you charge more and I predict the system will collapse, that's taxation without any real representation at all, more of a dictatorship or monarchy. What happened to the last country that tried that with the US? If it's not working that's because the current economic model is unworkable in it's current state, and giving more money to the chief to toss into a hole bidding on a vendor spot isn't going to fix that. Just make it a bigger gold sink than it is now.

As far as PVP goes, magicka builds are what I like to call Easy Mode. Every MMO I've seen implement always has some group that can faceroll easily. All games have that class so the losers get to become the winners.

I've already done the most I can do as a player to state my level of appreciation for the current state of the game, and for future direction. Balls in your court now Z.

Get over yourself. This is Tamiel, not the United States.

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO · October 2014

Tamriel is ruled by monarchs and local vassals (AD, DC) and a combination of a monarch, a tribunal of demigods and a collection of House clans (EP), so it makes perfect sense to charge exorbitant taxes for no good reason. Judging from the huge price difference between selling to and buying from NPC vendors, the taxes on trade seems to be somewhere around, oh, I don't know, 95% of total revenue?

Maverick827 · October 2014

ExiledKhallisi wrote: »

Athas24 wrote: »

ExiledKhallisi wrote: »

-How would a weapon equivalent to inner light work? I get that inner light is basically a souped up detect life spell, but the equivalent? and what guild skill line would it go in?

A spell for weapon crit would just seem stupid. Passives work for that anyway so I agree here what skill line would even be used for this and would it be class based or guild or world or ??
Also..
Medium armor skills are a decent way to get your weapon crit just as high as someone using inner light does for spell crit. Since weapon attacks with a staff are magicka crit based, medium armor doesn't stack with it so you have 2 methods for crit bonus. Medium armor = physical and inner light= spell crit.

-Light armor passive Prodigy grants 10% spell crit with 2/2 if 5pc light is worn
-Med armor passive Dexterity grants 21% wep crit if 7 pieces of armor are worn

Inner light gives 20% crit at rank IV

30% Easily obtained spell crit with only 5pc of light worn

vs

21% wep crit with 7 pc med worn

Do you not see the difference? It doesnt have to be a spell, maybe a defensive aura that has something to do with stamina/taking damage and grants some crit.

You can already get a way higher weapon crit than you can spell crit. Don't forget that Inner Light takes up TWO bar slots.