The only thing I can suggest is to have the sorc targeted and hold down block while charging/teleport striking him. That way you will not be disoriented by the subsequent bolts. If you can stay on the sorc through each bolt you will force him to kill his magicka. You also want to try to kill the sorcs stamina so that he can no longer block and you can CC lock him for the executioner. Remember Fear can't be blocked so it's an easy way to kill their stamina when they try to break out of it if they don't break free shoot them.

If the sorc is animation canceling his bolt escapes then just wave bye bye and move on.

morvegil wrote: »

Im using the armour of the air, which gives me some good stealth and stamina bonuses. So you guy suggest focus more on stamina with utility for magicka? Also does higher magicka increase Damage?

So for a stamina build what should i do for attributes? half health and hald stamina?

Dont worry im not feeling insulted....I also like Medium armor because of the stealth stuff. I want to be a sneaky sniper so to speak. I slot concealed weapon and Mist Form which allows me to get away as long as stealth doesnt get bugged (Which it has).

My stamina build is something along the lines of this -

If you're going for a stamina build and want raw damage, go for a 5 set of Hundings Rage, at least 5 medium for the weapon damage boost from the medium passives and stack stamina (make sure you're using decent weapons as well so highest rank you can use and make them purple or blue at the very very least), also the weapon damage mundus (warrior) is useful as well.

For PVP I'd put all your points into health, then put all your armour glyhps as stamina. Then use blue stamina/health food (which is pretty cheap). You should be looking at around 3000 health and 2000 stamina at this point, my stamina build is 3600 health, 2000 stamina and my weapon damage for both my bow and my melee is softcapped. I can pretty much three shot a sorc that doesn't know I'm there (just make sure you strike at the right moment, wait for their shields to drop, if they have more purple health than red health and/or are holding block then it's pointless attacking), but even out of stealth I can steam roll a Sorc that doesn't run away.

If you're unsure about skills/attacks let us know which weapons you want to use and I'm sure we can all come up with something for you, be warned though in PVP by far the best stamina weapon is the bow. NB fear and cloak are probably your best magic utility choices.

Regarding the skill ambush/teleport strike, it really takes a very specialized build to make this work.

As mentioned earlier, normal stamina builds are gimped with using ambush, because they are not stack into magicka pool size (which affects the damage of ambush), and they are usually not stacked into spell damage. Although stamina builds have a high weapon crit%, you have people wearing 7 or 8 pieces of impenetrable that will negate your crit rate.

A normal magicka build will have much higher damage with ambush due to higher magicka pool and spell damage. However, normal caster builds have very low weapon crit, so they cannot make full utilization of ambush.

If you really want to get everything out of ambush, you have to stack spell damage + magicka pool size + weapon crit + shadowy disguise (+100% weapon crit) all together. High base weapon crit (around 70%) combined with shadowy disguise (+100%) is the only reliable way to actually crit decent players.

This probably requires something like a medium armor magicka build, and you would probably be holding dual wield daggers solely to boost crit (since you have no stamina or weapon damage to use flurry anyways). Ideally, you'd want the stygian set. Unfortunately, this type of build makes you useless for anything other than a single target melee-range assassin, since it pretty much gimps you for anything else.

All advice that i can give u is to keep up harness magicka against sorcerers and dont feed them with any spells!
I fought a very good sorcerer yesterday, i kept harness magicka up all the time and buffed a shield on top of it! I charged him with critical rush as often as i could and then hit him with heavy attacks to regain my stamina! The fight took very long but i was the winner at the end. The trick is to not use any spells on him. Use magicka only for protection or to boost urself.

Also running around trees is very helpful against sorcerers.

I think Zenimax should change something with all the shields and stuff.
90% of the players i meet are wielding 1hand and shield and a restostaff in the offhand because its simply a build for noobs and bad players who want to run the perfect setup!
I don't know how it is as a Nightblade because im a Templar but running hybrid with lots of regeneration helps me a lot. My damage is very very low but i can use both ressources and that makes me pretty tough for many enemies.(Dragonknights excluded...thats simply the op *** chapter but i dont make it easy for em).

Whether u try to burst em dont by surprise or u do it my way and have a long long fight which will be interrupted by other players or he dies.
Often they simply start running away from me (i use to count that as a win).

Shieldstacking should be nerfed anyway. I hate it when fights take so long all the time. Defense>Offense... should be the other way around!

Lets see what 1.5 brings! Cheers!

morvegil wrote: »

Im using the armour of the air, which gives me some good stealth and stamina bonuses. So you guy suggest focus more on stamina with utility for magicka? Also does higher magicka increase Damage?

So for a stamina build what should i do for attributes? half health and hald stamina?

Dont worry im not feeling insulted....I also like Medium armor because of the stealth stuff. I want to be a sneaky sniper so to speak. I slot concealed weapon and Mist Form which allows me to get away as long as stealth doesnt get bugged (Which it has).

Here are the basics. If your skill uses Magicka to cast, the more Magicka you have the more damage it does, and it also will do more damage the more spell damage you have. This includes things like Ambush, in fact 100% of all class skills will increase with damage based on magicka and spell damage. If the ability uses Stamina then the more Stamina you have and typically the more weapon damage you have the more damage it will do. For some reason they decided to scale the damage you do based on the size of the resource pool.

For the stuff you are mentioning, concealed weapons, ambush, and funnel health those all will increase in damage with magicka and spell damage.

Your bow attacks and two-hander attacks will increase with weapon damage and stamina.

Crit gets a bit more complicated. The class skills that are "melee" type of skills like concealed weapons and ambush work off of weapon crit while funnel health works off of spell crit. Weapon attacks work off of weapon crit, except staves which work off spell crit. It is a really silly complicated system. Chances are you won't crit much in pvp anyway.

You can divide your stats with stamina and magicka but then none of your skills will hit as hard as they could, but you also have more skills to choose from. Everyone has a different opinion on what is best. I would say the most typical is to pick magicka or stamina, put 100% of your attribute points in to health and every enchant in to magicka or stamina and stick with the abilities from that pool only. The most typical is Magicka which is why you see the majority of people in light armor using staves. There are plenty of variations to this so it isn't a rule.

Thechemicals wrote: »

Protip: Stampede does nothing to a sorc.
Prolesson: Immovable+Critical rush. Not only do they not stun you but you crit rush them so fast and from such a distance that they take massive damage and you have time to interupt their spells. As long as immovable and crit rush is used, they cant even use crytal frag or stun you.

So they are imune to immobilize?>

TheBull wrote: »

morvegil wrote: »

So im a 2H weapon with Bow spec.

edit- I went full magicka for the first time at the start of the most recent Thorn campaign. It's rediculous how much more powerful a vamp magicka NB is compared to a WW stam NB. Endless batswarm ftw, well for the bored... So bored with that meta, I haven't played but 20 mins the past 5 days..

I've NEVER seen a NB perma-batswarm. All I ever see are Sorc's popping it over and over.

As a vampire nightblade, who's not using a skirt or stick and smashing my face into my keyboard to hit Impulse or Fire Ring over and over, it takes me about 5ish minutes to get enough Ultimate to pop batswarm.

Those "sorcs" with perma-batswarm are probably light armor NBs. You can tell if a light armor batswarmer is a NB or not when you see a web of red around them. The red lines are the drain power skill used to keep batswarm permanently up.

Aeratus wrote: »

Those "sorcs" with perma-batswarm are probably light armor NBs. You can tell if a light armor batswarmer is a NB or not when you see a web of red around them. The red lines are the drain power skill used to keep batswarm permanently up.

Nope the majority of them I've seen have Streaked into clusters and popped swarm then run in circles spamming Impulse. Only gap-closer NB's get is Ambush.

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

On my NB from stealth i have zero issues with bow or DW killing sorcs if i have the jump. With bow they are usually before they even know what hit them,

I keep a spare poison resist ring handy in my bag just for players like your self and unless I'm getting bombarded by other players on top of a bow user, the bow user dies : P

That poison resist really cuts out those 2k hits you guys are exploiting : P
Oh wait I can't call it an exploit because zos says its working as intended, lol. Zos in their infinite wisdom.