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Tankqull
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i just insta killed my self as i faced someone with that set as channeled attacks allways proc it and do it more than once per hit and as an ae effect(as it seems).

regarding cls and deathlog i had been hit 28 times (for 130-170dmg) while i channeled one flurry...
Edited by Tankqull on September 27, 2014 3:28PM
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Sallington wrote: »
Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!"


  • Dudis
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    There are other sets that have the same issue, pretty much anything with a defensive proc, "Thunderous" for example.

    Friend tried it out earlier, just look at all those lightning explosions :o

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq_Wec65n-4&list=UUemUycmxxLQ-N9WKFbsQr9Q
  • Mojomonkeyman
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    Dudis wrote: »
    There are other sets that have the same issue, pretty much anything with a defensive proc, "Thunderous" for example.

    Friend tried it out earlier, just look at all those lightning explosions :o

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq_Wec65n-4&list=UUemUycmxxLQ-N9WKFbsQr9Q

    Thanks for the find of the vid, I consider Broims as one of the better DKs in EU, despite the fact that nobody seems to know him...

    Is it you?
    Edited by Mojomonkeyman on September 28, 2014 7:18AM
    Koma Grey, Chocolate Thunder, Little Mojo, Dagoth Mojo & Mojomancy
  • Xsorus
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    Tankqull wrote: »
    i just insta killed my self as i faced someone with that set as channeled attacks allways proc it and do it more than once per hit and as an ae effect(as it seems).

    regarding cls and deathlog i had been hit 28 times (for 130-170dmg) while i channeled one flurry...

    lol, I run this setup

    Its not twin sisters that's the problem

    Its Dual Wield (and I believe Crushing Shock also)

    Flurry will set it off every hit, It does the same thing to Thunderous Setup as well (see my bug zapper video).

    Blood Craze dot will also set it off as well, just like it does with Thunderous setup (but you have to be in melee range for that to work)

    Crushing Shock is another ability i noticed that will setup off procs like that as well 100% of the time. I had a guy doing 400ish damage back to himself everytime he crushing shocked me.

    Now other then Flurry i don't know any other channeled attacks that'll set it off 100% of the time. But those 3 abilities right now I know for sure are broken (I never noticed it with Crushing Shock on Thunderous setup because you gotta be in melee range on that one)

  • Dudis
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    Thanks for the find of the vid, I consider Broims as one of the better DKs in EU, despite the fact that nobody seems to know him...

    Is it you?

    Nah, we duo a lot though, me being on my templar.
  • Tankqull
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    Tankqull wrote: »
    i just insta killed my self as i faced someone with that set as channeled attacks allways proc it and do it more than once per hit and as an ae effect(as it seems).

    regarding cls and deathlog i had been hit 28 times (for 130-170dmg) while i channeled one flurry...

    lol, I run this setup

    Its not twin sisters that's the problem

    Its Dual Wield (and I believe Crushing Shock also)

    Flurry will set it off every hit, It does the same thing to Thunderous Setup as well (see my bug zapper video).

    Blood Craze dot will also set it off as well, just like it does with Thunderous setup (but you have to be in melee range for that to work)

    Crushing Shock is another ability i noticed that will setup off procs like that as well 100% of the time. I had a guy doing 400ish damage back to himself everytime he crushing shocked me.

    Now other then Flurry i don't know any other channeled attacks that'll set it off 100% of the time. But those 3 abilities right now I know for sure are broken (I never noticed it with Crushing Shock on Thunderous setup because you gotta be in melee range on that one)

    all templar melee attacks(the on they have ;)), soulstrike and its morphs(kills every one around him), veilded blades, insta gibbed my self with a standart aswell.
    in short every ability with multiple attacks per sec. have an extreamly high or granted proc chance.
    Edited by Tankqull on September 28, 2014 6:03PM
    spelling and grammar errors are free to be abused

    Sallington wrote: »
    Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!"


  • Xsorus
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    Tankqull wrote: »
    Tankqull wrote: »
    i just insta killed my self as i faced someone with that set as channeled attacks allways proc it and do it more than once per hit and as an ae effect(as it seems).

    regarding cls and deathlog i had been hit 28 times (for 130-170dmg) while i channeled one flurry...

    lol, I run this setup

    Its not twin sisters that's the problem

    Its Dual Wield (and I believe Crushing Shock also)

    Flurry will set it off every hit, It does the same thing to Thunderous Setup as well (see my bug zapper video).

    Blood Craze dot will also set it off as well, just like it does with Thunderous setup (but you have to be in melee range for that to work)

    Crushing Shock is another ability i noticed that will setup off procs like that as well 100% of the time. I had a guy doing 400ish damage back to himself everytime he crushing shocked me.

    Now other then Flurry i don't know any other channeled attacks that'll set it off 100% of the time. But those 3 abilities right now I know for sure are broken (I never noticed it with Crushing Shock on Thunderous setup because you gotta be in melee range on that one)

    all templar melee attacks(the on they have ;)), soulstrike and its morphs(kills every one around him), veilded blades, insta gibbed my self with a standart aswell.
    in short every ability with multiple attacks per sec. have an extreamly high or granted proc chance.

    Every Multi hit attack in the game has a chance to set it off, because its got a high chance in the first place...however none of those abilities will set it off like the ones I listed. As for standard, I've had standard dropped and it didn't seem like it was proccing on multiple hits from that...granted I move out of standard soon as its dropped anyway.

  • Tankqull
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    Tankqull wrote: »
    Tankqull wrote: »
    i just insta killed my self as i faced someone with that set as channeled attacks allways proc it and do it more than once per hit and as an ae effect(as it seems).

    regarding cls and deathlog i had been hit 28 times (for 130-170dmg) while i channeled one flurry...

    lol, I run this setup

    Its not twin sisters that's the problem

    Its Dual Wield (and I believe Crushing Shock also)

    Flurry will set it off every hit, It does the same thing to Thunderous Setup as well (see my bug zapper video).

    Blood Craze dot will also set it off as well, just like it does with Thunderous setup (but you have to be in melee range for that to work)

    Crushing Shock is another ability i noticed that will setup off procs like that as well 100% of the time. I had a guy doing 400ish damage back to himself everytime he crushing shocked me.

    Now other then Flurry i don't know any other channeled attacks that'll set it off 100% of the time. But those 3 abilities right now I know for sure are broken (I never noticed it with Crushing Shock on Thunderous setup because you gotta be in melee range on that one)

    all templar melee attacks(the on they have ;)), soulstrike and its morphs(kills every one around him), veilded blades, insta gibbed my self with a standart aswell.
    in short every ability with multiple attacks per sec. have an extreamly high or granted proc chance.

    Every Multi hit attack in the game has a chance to set it off, because its got a high chance in the first place...however none of those abilities will set it off like the ones I listed. As for standard, I've had standard dropped and it didn't seem like it was proccing on multiple hits from that...granted I move out of standard soon as its dropped anyway.

    regarding CLS it proced 16 times during a singel puncturing strike of me ...
    soulstrikestarted a firework of procs wich would have killed anyone around him
    for me it seems that as every hit uses the maximum numbers of hits a skill could generate.
    Edited by Tankqull on September 29, 2014 3:47PM
    spelling and grammar errors are free to be abused

    Sallington wrote: »
    Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!"


  • Braidas
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    Yesterday I saw in my death recap 5 separate twin sisters procs from the same guy, and it was pretty instant.
  • Thejollygreenone
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    Sounds like the problem is with the twin sisters set, in that the bleed it can set off will stack on top of itself. This isn't a property of any other dot in the game afaik.

    There may be a secondary problem with a lot of multihit and dot abilities having an increased chance per tick to proc, but it sounds to me like the main issue is that the dot is able to, with this insane proc chances on certain abilities, to stack a whole bunch of times at once which shouldn't be possible.
  • Xsorus
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    The Bleed itself doesn't stack on top of itself per say... But it will do a double hit for some abilities.

    For example, You hit me with an ability..it'll pop the bleed on ya. Now you hit me with another ability, and it goes off again, you'll take the initial hit + the other bleeds tic as well so.

    If you're spamming something like crushing shock, its probably possible to get hit upwards to 4 times at once from it if its timed weird.
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    Tankqull wrote: »
    Tankqull wrote: »
    Tankqull wrote: »
    i just insta killed my self as i faced someone with that set as channeled attacks allways proc it and do it more than once per hit and as an ae effect(as it seems).

    regarding cls and deathlog i had been hit 28 times (for 130-170dmg) while i channeled one flurry...

    lol, I run this setup

    Its not twin sisters that's the problem

    Its Dual Wield (and I believe Crushing Shock also)

    Flurry will set it off every hit, It does the same thing to Thunderous Setup as well (see my bug zapper video).

    Blood Craze dot will also set it off as well, just like it does with Thunderous setup (but you have to be in melee range for that to work)

    Crushing Shock is another ability i noticed that will setup off procs like that as well 100% of the time. I had a guy doing 400ish damage back to himself everytime he crushing shocked me.

    Now other then Flurry i don't know any other channeled attacks that'll set it off 100% of the time. But those 3 abilities right now I know for sure are broken (I never noticed it with Crushing Shock on Thunderous setup because you gotta be in melee range on that one)

    all templar melee attacks(the on they have ;)), soulstrike and its morphs(kills every one around him), veilded blades, insta gibbed my self with a standart aswell.
    in short every ability with multiple attacks per sec. have an extreamly high or granted proc chance.

    Every Multi hit attack in the game has a chance to set it off, because its got a high chance in the first place...however none of those abilities will set it off like the ones I listed. As for standard, I've had standard dropped and it didn't seem like it was proccing on multiple hits from that...granted I move out of standard soon as its dropped anyway.

    regarding CLS it proced 16 times during a singel puncturing strike of me ...
    soulstrikestarted a firework of procs wich would have killed anyone around him
    for me it seems that as every hit uses the maximum numbers of hits a skill could generate.

    It shouldn't be proccing 16 times from a single puncturing strike... It should proc based on how many actual hits PS does.

    By chance do you have a dot on your weapon? I'm thinking dots might be setting it off as well.
    Edited by Xsorus on September 29, 2014 7:25PM
  • Tankqull
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    nope its a shield proc
    spelling and grammar errors are free to be abused

    Sallington wrote: »
    Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!"


  • Xsorus
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    Tankqull wrote: »
    nope its a shield proc

    Its suppose to have a chance of going off when blocking, I'm thinking it goes off 100% of the time. But I'm also thinking its going off when taking dot damage. I'll have to test it more when I have time.

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