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Is it me or is the new end game content not being played much by the community
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NadiusMaximus✭✭✭✭✭I thought end game was just standing around in a town saying " I used to be an adventurer like you"3 -
Guppet✭✭✭✭✭
✭AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »Vet Arena is hard. A lot of guilds are working on it, last I checked a few nights back only one had cleared it. the new 12 man trial is even harder, so it will be a while before you see many times on it. We've gotten to the 10th boss in Vet Arena, but haven't beaten it yet.
These things are getting played, just mainly in PVE focused guilds that are built to beat hard content.
The normal DSA isn't hard and can be done in a decent pick-up group, and I have seen pick-up groups starting up for them in Craglorn.
I'm in a reasonable PVE guild we are doing them as well - my concern is not so much for my participation as to the view of what the community is participating in. I really am fearing for this game and its success - it just seems very quiet in Crag and in all of the guilds im on.
Again this may be an Oceanic thing - I may also be wrong and completely wrong I certainly hope so
If your playing at primetime oceanic, you'll never see how busy the game is in peak US time. The oceanic group of players in any MMO is always tiny. Most MMO's end up shutting the oceanic servers not long after launch, forcing any remaining players to move. At least here you wont have to move.0 -
Vahrokh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭What like a normal mode and a heroic mode
Soon to be followed by a looking for trial group faceroll mode
It's been done and resulted in fragmented end gaming community . That is fine with WoW but the trial community is tiny to be sure and wouldn't likely deal with a fragmenting
Well, now it's even thinier. It took us close to 2 hours to put together pieces of former hard core guilds (including hard mode AA / HR) enough to get a trial run started. People just went "I don't bother" mode.
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coryevans_3b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yea you aren't seeing much about them because they are incredibly hard, which is exactly how they should be.
Why is this news to anyone?
ESO has no "end game". ESO releases more content in all areas, to expand Tamriel on a regular bases. In different areas each time....
The reason why "end game" has fewer "activity" is because there is loads of activity all over. High level content is just like lvl 42 content, but in a different area.
ESO is not a level game. It is a skill, storyline, "lore" and never ending evolving world type of game.
If someone wish to only do High level content. Its there! You just missing everything else......
I like what you say in theory.1 -
Stratti✭✭✭✭✭AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »Vet Arena is hard. A lot of guilds are working on it, last I checked a few nights back only one had cleared it. the new 12 man trial is even harder, so it will be a while before you see many times on it. We've gotten to the 10th boss in Vet Arena, but haven't beaten it yet.
These things are getting played, just mainly in PVE focused guilds that are built to beat hard content.
The normal DSA isn't hard and can be done in a decent pick-up group, and I have seen pick-up groups starting up for them in Craglorn.
I'm in a reasonable PVE guild we are doing them as well - my concern is not so much for my participation as to the view of what the community is participating in. I really am fearing for this game and its success - it just seems very quiet in Crag and in all of the guilds im on.
Again this may be an Oceanic thing - I may also be wrong and completely wrong I certainly hope so
If your playing at primetime oceanic, you'll never see how busy the game is in peak US time. The oceanic group of players in any MMO is always tiny. Most MMO's end up shutting the oceanic servers not long after launch, forcing any remaining players to move. At least here you wont have to move.
What are you on about WoW added many oceanic servers and two of them are in the top 3 or 4 in the world for server rank. Don't make sweeping generalisations . Ultimately if the Japanese, Koreans, Aussies, nz and late night US are not really playing it in numbers then it's a fail for that market .
And many on oceanic play in prime time US on the weekends and it isn't what I call busy0 -
Guppet✭✭✭✭✭
✭AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »Vet Arena is hard. A lot of guilds are working on it, last I checked a few nights back only one had cleared it. the new 12 man trial is even harder, so it will be a while before you see many times on it. We've gotten to the 10th boss in Vet Arena, but haven't beaten it yet.
These things are getting played, just mainly in PVE focused guilds that are built to beat hard content.
The normal DSA isn't hard and can be done in a decent pick-up group, and I have seen pick-up groups starting up for them in Craglorn.
I'm in a reasonable PVE guild we are doing them as well - my concern is not so much for my participation as to the view of what the community is participating in. I really am fearing for this game and its success - it just seems very quiet in Crag and in all of the guilds im on.
Again this may be an Oceanic thing - I may also be wrong and completely wrong I certainly hope so
If your playing at primetime oceanic, you'll never see how busy the game is in peak US time. The oceanic group of players in any MMO is always tiny. Most MMO's end up shutting the oceanic servers not long after launch, forcing any remaining players to move. At least here you wont have to move.
What are you on about WoW added many oceanic servers and two of them are in the top 3 or 4 in the world for server rank. Don't make sweeping generalisations . Ultimately if the Japanese, Koreans, Aussies, nz and late night US are not really playing it in numbers then it's a fail for that market .
And many on oceanic play in prime time US on the weekends and it isn't what I call busy
WoW has always had far more players than any other MMO, if any game can support Oceanic players, its wow. Don't think that that's the norm though, its far from it. This game is no where near as large as WoW, im not sure its even as big as SWTOR, which did just as I said.
If Oceanic was a large player base, they would have given you a server. I'm not disrespecting Oceanic players, im sure they are lovely (im EU so never really get to mix with them , since they tend to get lumped with America), its just cold hard fact that they don't have large enough numbers for any game to truly cater to them.
I'm not having a go, im just saying that a player, playing what will be off peak for the server he is on, will never see how busy the server is, that's a fact.
Edited by Guppet on September 27, 2014 12:02AM0 -
Stratti✭✭✭✭✭To be honest a bunch of games friends have played and others refer to as MMO are not really. I tried Age of Conan that was a fail , Warhammer fail , didn't bother with SW TOR but that failed . There may be more reasons but the lack of compelling endgame is what failed for me and I hear is what failed for SW.
Now we have no real end game not a great deal of participation - just open the
- Leader boards. Lots of bored people and a community of players that in update 3 was good enough (oceanic) now guilds are dropping like flies and participation is low.
Still people will argue points and be 'fanboi' about but I am a fan of this game I just require more from an MMO having played the best of the category . It's very different if you have never played it to understand the myriad of things to do.
I wish they could give us something to renew faith because it is low right now let me tell you - I see the signs0 -
Stratti✭✭✭✭✭coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »Yea you aren't seeing much about them because they are incredibly hard, which is exactly how they should be.
Why is this news to anyone?
ESO has no "end game". ESO releases more content in all areas, to expand Tamriel on a regular bases. In different areas each time....
The reason why "end game" has fewer "activity" is because there is loads of activity all over. High level content is just like lvl 42 content, but in a different area.
ESO is not a level game. It is a skill, storyline, "lore" and never ending evolving world type of game.
If someone wish to only do High level content. Its there! You just missing everything else......
I like what you say in theory.
Let me give a simple equation
No end game = No MMO
Just ask SWTOR and the many other failures out there that tried. Alt junkies and casuals don't make an MMO they just fill the ranks . End game is vital to survival of the game0 -
Guppet✭✭✭✭✭
✭To be honest a bunch of games friends have played and others refer to as MMO are not really. I tried Age of Conan that was a fail , Warhammer fail , didn't bother with SW TOR but that failed . There may be more reasons but the lack of compelling endgame is what failed for me and I hear is what failed for SW.
Now we have no real end game not a great deal of participation - just open the
- Leader boards. Lots of bored people and a community of players that in update 3 was good enough (oceanic) now guilds are dropping like flies and participation is low.
Still people will argue points and be 'fanboi' about but I am a fan of this game I just require more from an MMO having played the best of the category . It's very different if you have never played it to understand the myriad of things to do.
I wish they could give us something to renew faith because it is low right now let me tell you - I see the signs
Just so you know SWTOR is still going strong, it now has a decent amount of end game too and its free to play. So you may want to give it a try, its actually pretty decent and is very similar to wow now, just with more star wars and much much better graphics
It has your raids, your heroic dungeons, your battlegrounds, your arena, your daily solo quests, your scenarios (no role needed dungeons), it has player housing. Also some of the best questing in any game ever made.
Combat feels really slow after playing ESO though, it also feels too easy after spending so much time in VR content here.0 -
Stratti✭✭✭✭✭Don't want to burst the SW bubble but I'm not a fan - also it is considered to be 'dead' but there is always diehards
Wow is appealing to me because of the lore and the expansion . If you haven't played you should check it out they give a free 90 level boost . As a tank it was instant ques .
Still I'd have to redo a lot of grinding - should never have sold my account I'm spewing now0 -
Guppet✭✭✭✭✭
✭Don't want to burst the SW bubble but I'm not a fan - also it is considered to be 'dead' but there is always diehards
Wow is appealing to me because of the lore and the expansion . If you haven't played you should check it out they give a free 90 level boost . As a tank it was instant ques .
Still I'd have to redo a lot of grinding - should never have sold my account I'm spewing now
I'm not really a star wars fan either, but the gameplay is/was nice. Last time I checked it was the 4th or 5th most played MMO at the moment, its significantly higher than ESO, so no its not dead.0 -
Stratti✭✭✭✭✭Well I'll be that's what I get for listening to rumours
Why is it that WoW far outstrips everyone . It isn't graphics, it isn't the community (trolls nest) I still can't figure it out ... O wait
Endgame
You could play that endgame and climb that progression ladder for a year or more .0 -
Guppet✭✭✭✭✭
✭Well I'll be that's what I get for listening to rumours
Why is it that WoW far outstrips everyone . It isn't graphics, it isn't the community (trolls nest) I still can't figure it out ... O wait
Endgame
You could play that endgame and climb that progression ladder for a year or more .
It also had lore, though WOD is ripping that a new one. I was a huge fan of WoW and its lore (played all the previous games too, that sure helped them become number one), was there from day one of euro release back in Feb 2005. Bought all the books (enjoyed all those that were not written by Knaak too).
Its no surprise to me that the numbers started plummeting when panderia was announced and they started to take the mikey with their lore.
Stuck with it (while trying just about every new MMO that came out, but always back to wow within a month). That was till then announced pandas (they may have been in the lore, but they were first put there as a joke) and pokemon. That coincided nicely with the beta for SWTOR.
Anyways its late in the UK NN.Edited by Guppet on September 27, 2014 12:37AM0 -
Anastasia✭✭✭✭
-It's you. Lots of people are trying it, just very few are able to complete it. Give it time - when the mechanics are figured out you will see an increase in activity on the LBs.
"- when the mechanics are figured out"
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Figuring out the mechanics IS the fun part, not waiting for someone else to use their brain while having fun and then putting up some friggin guide online to provide other people a way not to use their brain to not have fun and then proceed to baitch about it being a grind.
*O-P -- hopefully at least in NA and Euro prime time you will start seeing more and more activity.
Edited by Anastasia on September 27, 2014 12:54AM0 -
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Stratti✭✭✭✭✭
-It's you. Lots of people are trying it, just very few are able to complete it. Give it time - when the mechanics are figured out you will see an increase in activity on the LBs.
"- when the mechanics are figured out"
................
Figuring out the mechanics IS the fun part, not waiting for someone else to use their brain while having fun and then putting up some friggin guide online to provide other people a way not to use their brain to not have fun and then proceed to baitch about it being a grind.
*O-P -- hopefully at least in NA and Euro prime time you will start seeing more and more activity.
I don't know hopefully I have 5 days left and I think I'll shelve it for a while (forever) . Its a shame because we were running 3 nights a week , trials and dungeons in between and it has really dropped off. Bunch of PVP guilds have left all together. Craglorn once busy is dead
I think people are going alts or in Cyrodill.0