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'Hard Mode' for all the Solo Dungeons
Phantax
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Firstly I'd like to say what a pleasure it was to run through all the re-vamped solo dungeons. Kudos to Zenimax for making them much better (although they should have been like this from the start)
Anyway, they are done now and they are great apart from one thing.... If you happen to be a maxed out VR player they are simply a faceroll of easiness !
@Zenimax @ZOS_PaulSage please add a 'Hard Mode' option to let us experience some challenge. I'm sure most (if not all of us) have a favourite solo dungeon, I know I do. However it's VR4 and being so easy just takes away some of the fun.
I'm not saying make these 'Hard Mode' dungeons easy pickings for loot, hell leave the loot table for them as it is normally (maybe up the gold amount a little) just ramp up the difficulty to match the current level cap !
C'mon give us a real ass pounding ! (hmm, that sounded different in my head...lol)
Edited by Phantax on September 26, 2014 1:44PM Anyway, they are done now and they are great apart from one thing.... If you happen to be a maxed out VR player they are simply a faceroll of easiness !
@Zenimax @ZOS_PaulSage please add a 'Hard Mode' option to let us experience some challenge. I'm sure most (if not all of us) have a favourite solo dungeon, I know I do. However it's VR4 and being so easy just takes away some of the fun.
I'm not saying make these 'Hard Mode' dungeons easy pickings for loot, hell leave the loot table for them as it is normally (maybe up the gold amount a little) just ramp up the difficulty to match the current level cap !
C'mon give us a real ass pounding ! (hmm, that sounded different in my head...lol)
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✭✭✭✭Take your gear off...for the hard mode...
Not for the...well, maybe leave just your pants on? (That does sound all kinds 'a wrong)Edited by Merlin13KAGL on September 26, 2014 5:25PMJust because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
Earn it.
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✭Hard mode Delves? Yes please!
Could we also add more bosses to the delves kinda like the Cyrodiil dungeons?
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ferzalrwb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭They used to be harder mode in vet. Not hard but.. harder. Everything was nerfed to faceroll.
You can do them all naked. On level. Faceroll. The entire PvE landscape is a joke since all these people complained about the difficultly. Those same people didn't actually go and play the Vet zones though so the nerf was for no reason at all. After the nerf the zones got emptier. :P5 -
GoatKnuckle✭✭✭If you want challenging games ... you are in the wrong generation. Sorry, bud. You take your Gold Star and you be content with that.
What is a solo dungeon? You talking about those public dungeons that are set up like IKEA?
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Srugzal✭✭✭✭✭ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »They used to be harder mode in vet. Not hard but.. harder. Everything was nerfed to faceroll.
You can do them all naked. On level. Faceroll. The entire PvE landscape is a joke since all these people complained about the difficultly. Those same people didn't actually go and play the Vet zones though so the nerf was for no reason at all. After the nerf the zones got emptier. :P
Agreed. Vet PvE gives you an entirely unrealistic sense of how powerful your character is. Too easy by far, and that goes for all of solo Veteran PvE, not just dungeons.
For me, this is the key thing. I NEVER have to use my ultimate on bosses. Sometimes I do just for fun, but it's never a survival tactic. Not even close.1 -
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✭✭ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »They used to be harder mode in vet. Not hard but.. harder. Everything was nerfed to faceroll.
You can do them all naked. On level. Faceroll. The entire PvE landscape is a joke since all these people complained about the difficultly. Those same people didn't actually go and play the Vet zones though so the nerf was for no reason at all. After the nerf the zones got emptier. :P
Well, they should have nerfed magicka builds to stamina builds level and kept the vet ranks as they were. You would have seen some real crying about difficulty then.
The problem wasnt strictly that VR was too difficult, it was that you could go through it easily it with some playstyles while others could barely manage. Since ZOS couldnt balance builds fast enough they nerfed the content.Edited by khele23eb17_ESO on September 27, 2014 5:39AMP2P offered you 'hell yeah!' moments. F2P offers you 'thank god its over' moments.4 -
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✭Scaled solo dungeons would be awesome. The solo dungeons pre-vr nerf were not so face roll but now... Wow, they are really making it easy lol.2 -
Martinus72✭✭✭✭Agreed. If vet content has been nerfed because part of less skilled community couldn't cope they should create optional higher challenge for all those finding it too easy now.1 -
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✭khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »They used to be harder mode in vet. Not hard but.. harder. Everything was nerfed to faceroll.
You can do them all naked. On level. Faceroll. The entire PvE landscape is a joke since all these people complained about the difficultly. Those same people didn't actually go and play the Vet zones though so the nerf was for no reason at all. After the nerf the zones got emptier. :P
Well, they should have nerfed magicka builds to stamina builds level and kept the vet ranks as they were. You would have seen some real crying about difficulty then.
The problem wasnt strictly that VR was too difficult, it was that you could go through it easily it with some playstyles while others could barely manage. Since ZOS couldnt balance builds fast enough they nerfed the content.
So the whole fiasco was completely avoidable if they balanced classes properly from the start.
/epicfacepalm
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✭✭Martinus72 wrote: »Agreed. If vet content has been nerfed because part of less skilled community couldn't cope they should create optional higher challenge for all those finding it too easy now.
If by 'less skilled' you mean those who didnt want to go stick&robe... sure.P2P offered you 'hell yeah!' moments. F2P offers you 'thank god its over' moments.1 -
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✭Agreed. Vet PvE gives you an entirely unrealistic sense of how powerful your character is. Too easy by far, and that goes for all of solo Veteran PvE, not just dungeons.
For me, this is the key thing. I NEVER have to use my ultimate on bosses. Sometimes I do just for fun, but it's never a survival tactic. Not even close.
Sad but true, when you can bitchslap a dungeon/delve boss in the face and beat them to a pulp without using your ultimate it's time to re-think scaling.
I'd love to go back and re-run all the old delves (especially my favourite ones) but why bother? For me at least the challenge was the main thing and now that's not there High Elf Sorcerer VR12 - Destro / Resto Staff
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ferzalrwb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »They used to be harder mode in vet. Not hard but.. harder. Everything was nerfed to faceroll.
You can do them all naked. On level. Faceroll. The entire PvE landscape is a joke since all these people complained about the difficultly. Those same people didn't actually go and play the Vet zones though so the nerf was for no reason at all. After the nerf the zones got emptier. :P
Well, they should have nerfed magicka builds to stamina builds level and kept the vet ranks as they were. You would have seen some real crying about difficulty then.
The problem wasnt strictly that VR was too difficult, it was that you could go through it easily it with some playstyles while others could barely manage. Since ZOS couldnt balance builds fast enough they nerfed the content.
I did it with a stamina build before the nerf no problems at all.
I've also levelled a caster alt and done some vet content and I guess it's easier. Maybe.
I can tell them apart in dungeons and Craglorn (caster is much easier to play generally) but in the landscape vet zones the content is just too easy to really see the difference now. In fact my stamina build tears through it without needing to heal, block or dodge. Most stuff is 1-2shot.
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✭Hard Modes should drop loot equal to your level, and scale level with you.
I am V13, and that means my loot and all monsters should be scaled to V13.
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✭✭I cant stand it in MMOs if everything exists in like 3 or 4 modes. I hate that for a living at WOW and don't want anything like it to come over to ESO.
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✭✭✭khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »Well, they should have nerfed magicka builds to stamina builds level and kept the vet ranks as they were. You would have seen some real crying about difficulty then.
The problem wasnt strictly that VR was too difficult, it was that you could go through it easily it with some playstyles while others could barely manage. Since ZOS couldnt balance builds fast enough they nerfed the content.
I did pre nerf content as full plate 1h + shield sorc.
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shadowz081✭✭✭khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »Well, they should have nerfed magicka builds to stamina builds level and kept the vet ranks as they were. You would have seen some real crying about difficulty then.
The problem wasnt strictly that VR was too difficult, it was that you could go through it easily it with some playstyles while others could barely manage. Since ZOS couldnt balance builds fast enough they nerfed the content.
I did pre nerf content as full plate 1h + shield sorc.
Cry more.
I did it as a DW 7/7 med armor stealth NB...Finished cadwalls gold a few hours before the nerf went through.1
