Thornblade NA - Currently Unplayable

Agrippa_Invisus · September 2014

Zenimax,

Currently your game is not even functioning due to the huge siege at Arrius.

Three factions in one place destroy your Cyrodiil servers.

We have crashes, massive skill lag, and the USELESS 'an error has occurred' when trying to log in.

Gaettusk · September 2014

Lag wins this campaign

tanyadawn55_ESO · September 2014

I agree with the OP....just wish Zeni would take a little time to pretend that they actually care about what happens in PVP.

LonePirate · September 2014

There was a lot more going on besides server load and performance issues. I cannot count the number of AD who were taking no damage despite being wailed upon by 8 to 10 or even more EP at a single time. That siege would have ended long ago if that "problem" didn't exist.

Sypher · September 2014

If their servers can't handle these huge sieges. Maybe they should look into providing us with alternate forms of PvP such as dueling, battlegrounds, 3v3v3 play lists in order to give us options.

driosketch · September 2014

I also had lag and crashed on Chillrend tonight during a keep defense. I wouldn't say the size of the siege was anything extraordinary.

Monsoon · September 2014

lost catas and oils that were never usable and just despawned. AD sorcs spamming swarms and firerings were able to hit me while I wasn t in control of my character...how the F are those aoe able to work with 5 seconds lag when none of my spells were working. i.e if I cant damage them why are they able to damage me?

Abuses of the AOE spam fest again rendered the place unplayable.

For crying out loud, turn on friendly fire and see the zergs of AD sorcs melt themselves and kill their whole zerg.

You gave us spells and siege to combat zergs and vamps spamming swarms...well what do you do when you can t even use those?

demonlkojipub19_ESO · September 2014

Population cap needs to be cut in half.

Monsoon · September 2014

demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »

Population cap needs to be cut in half.

yeah why not make the huge battles the game was sold for into 10v10?
then what? you get a giant map with 100 people on it?

The game needs to be fixed to remove the zerg incentive that lags everything to hell. Without these people spamming aoes in large groups you don t get lags like we had tonight. 150 people on a map converging to a single place is still 150 people in the same place...you can t cut that in half then the map is too big.

You need game mechanics that punish zergs that slow down the server

Xsorus · September 2014

Zerg Balls needs to go way
and Forward Camps need to be removed while increasing the walls HP a crap ton

Domander · September 2014

Could be all the extra (looks at AD) guesting and people using travel to player.

Tintinabula · September 2014

i played for an hour maybe tonight?..then took a well deserved break

TagaParti · September 2014

There's a certain number or amount of players that are allowed to go into Cyrodiil, that's why there's a que when the campaign was locked. So that means that they think their server can handle that number of players inside a campaign, it usually works tho, as the campaign is full every weekends and there's not much problem. Maybe there's just some kind of server problem that happened, they will sure fix it tho.

Monsoon · September 2014

TagaParti wrote: »

they will sure fix it tho.

FluffiestOne · September 2014

REMOVE AOE CAPS, THE ZERG WILL WIPE THEREFOR NO MORE LAG. GG FIX GAME ZENIMAX

Scamandros · September 2014

Being one of the first AD in arrius before the rest showed up, we were suffering the same lag problems. 1 in about 20 skill casts would actually hit something, at the same time the enemies I saw casting skills at me would rarely actually take effect either.
Heaps of seige lost because it locks you from using it whenever it is placed. At one time we had 2 rams on the front door that wouldnt do anything but swivel and go off in random directions.

This is definitely a unique pvp experience

themizario · September 2014

PvP is my favorite part of this game. I've spent the last week doing PVE with all the crashes that were going on. It was just too much, it was a break or rage quit.

Anyways, so tonight, excited about patch and being able to PvP again without a ton of crashes. I didn't crash, just DC'd from so much lag.

As described by other I watched as I cast, tried light and heavy attacks and nothing would happen except depleted my resources. Just like seige. Set it down just to watch it burn.

Do you guys think the lag is from impulse itself as an AOE ability that is causing the lag or would a Zerg even spamming single target DPS still cause the outrageous lag?

Is there anyway to get all players across alliances to change their play style for one night to try and see if we can have a lag free Cyrodiil?

Cinnamon_Spider · September 2014

Once the zergs died down, it was actually playable. I was able to play for a few hours without a crash and only had one weapon bug.

Ezareth · September 2014

Yeah I've taken to avoiding Cyrodiil during primetime and get my fix during the slow times. It's the only time PvP is enjoyable for me.

demonlkojipub19_ESO · September 2014

Monsoon wrote: »

demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »

Population cap needs to be cut in half.

yeah why not make the huge battles the game was sold for into 10v10?
then what? you get a giant map with 100 people on it?

The game needs to be fixed to remove the zerg incentive that lags everything to hell. Without these people spamming aoes in large groups you don t get lags like we had tonight. 150 people on a map converging to a single place is still 150 people in the same place...you can t cut that in half then the map is too big.

You need game mechanics that punish zergs that slow down the server

Being able to have 300 or whatever it is of one alliance in one spot on the map is what is killing the servers. Whatever fixes to any skill that would reduce zerg balling will not prevent 300 or whatever it is of one alliance to be able to gather in one spot and still lag the server, making it unplayable.

The map isn't too big for the cap to be cut in half. In fact is big enough for what 1 bar's worth of population currently represents before it gets to 2 bars.

Dleatherus · September 2014

LonePirate wrote: »

There was a lot more going on besides server load and performance issues. I cannot count the number of AD who were taking no damage despite being wailed upon by 8 to 10 or even more EP at a single time. That siege would have ended long ago if that "problem" didn't exist.

i think what was happening is the lag was so bad you just weren't seeing any damage recorded rather than anything 'suspicious' going on

at arrius we fought both EP and DC and our group was experiencing the same thing - EP and DC players seemingly taking no damage and had us thinking 'omg - is everybody running the invulnerable shield bug now?'

thankfully some of the EP and DC players we were fighting we know to be legit types and so knew that wasn't the case

lag was so bad i quit ESO for the night

D.

seanolan · September 2014

Tell you what...some of you EP deserting rats could come over the Chillrend. Problem solved. No overload on Thornblade, and we might be able to take more than one keep a night in Chillrend

Agrippa_Invisus · September 2014

Last night's server lag was terrible. EP had gone from locked population to 2 bars before Arrius even fell, it was so godawful.

That is a lot of either a) disconnects or b) ragequitting due to game unplayability. My raid group of 20 could only maintain about 8-10 online players at any one time.

Some of the fun we experienced:

1. Skill Lag
2. Door Usage Lag
3. People using movement abilities sticking in one place and their abilities greying out. 30+ seconds sometimes.
4. Siege equipment failing to spawn. Put it down, it bugs out and shows up 10s later and can't be interacted with. This utterly wrecked our ability to defend.
5. Constant crashes to desktop.
6. "An unknown error occurred" on attempts to login.
7. Sound effects going in and out. Sometimes they played, sometimes they didn't.
8. Spell effect culling. Never even know what was hitting us half the time.
9. Invulnerable enemies! No hits by AEs registering in a mob of enemies.
10. Simultaneous crashing to desktop. If one member of the group went, so went several others at the same time.
11. Spawning dead at Forward Camps. This was especially fun. Die (or more likely log back in dead as you were standing like a doofus in the middle of enemies), try to use the forward camp, and you keep your death recap up and then immediately crash. Then you get 'unknown error' for several minutes on relog.

In short, for about 2 hours or so last night, the game was utterly unplayable for most of the Thornblade players. In the end, most chose to just log out and stop playing.

This is why, in my off hours, I would rather play D3 than level an alt. The frustrations inherent in dealing with ESO require a cooldown time from the game itself.

As a Guild Lead, it's really, really hard to motivate people to play when they're staring at login screens, errors, and mountainous lag -- and I have no valid reason for them not to log out.

Zintair · September 2014

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Last night's server lag was terrible. EP had gone from locked population to 2 bars before Arrius even fell, it was so godawful.

That is a lot of either a) disconnects or b) ragequitting due to game unplayability. My raid group of 20 could only maintain about 8-10 online players at any one time.

Some of the fun we experienced:

1. Skill Lag
2. Door Usage Lag
3. People using movement abilities sticking in one place and their abilities greying out. 30+ seconds sometimes.
4. Siege equipment failing to spawn. Put it down, it bugs out and shows up 10s later and can't be interacted with. This utterly wrecked our ability to defend.
5. Constant crashes to desktop.
6. "An unknown error occurred" on attempts to login.
7. Sound effects going in and out. Sometimes they played, sometimes they didn't.
8. Spell effect culling. Never even know what was hitting us half the time.
9. Invulnerable enemies! No hits by AEs registering in a mob of enemies.
10. Simultaneous crashing to desktop. If one member of the group went, so went several others at the same time.
11. Spawning dead at Forward Camps. This was especially fun. Die (or more likely log back in dead as you were standing like a doofus in the middle of enemies), try to use the forward camp, and you keep your death recap up and then immediately crash. Then you get 'unknown error' for several minutes on relog.

In short, for about 2 hours or so last night, the game was utterly unplayable for most of the Thornblade players. In the end, most chose to just log out and stop playing.

This is why, in my off hours, I would rather play D3 than level an alt. The frustrations inherent in dealing with ESO require a cooldown time from the game itself.

As a Guild Lead, it's really, really hard to motivate people to play when they're staring at login screens, errors, and mountainous lag -- and I have no valid reason for them not to log out.

This, every patch is a step forward and two-three steps back.

Tintinabula · September 2014

feels so good to be able to use any door now and not wonder "will this one be locked"?

However the crashing still exists.

GRxKnight · September 2014

There's also Azura's Star to play on guys... we don't need to overload Thornblade like everyone wants to... Why wait in queue forever or risk crashing when you can go pvp on another server... Why must we all cluster into Thornblade?

Tintinabula · September 2014

well its like this..do you want two mediocre populations on two different servers?..or would you like one strong population on server at the very least?

Agrippa_Invisus · September 2014

Tintinabula wrote: »

well its like this..do you want two mediocre populations on two different servers?..or would you like one strong population on server at the very least?

Would you like pop locked AD on two servers and two bars of DC/EP on each server? Or pop locked all three during prime time with AD having a population edge at other points?

It'd be nice if AD de-stacked the faction a bit and we had some more rerolls or if ZOS offered a faction transfer service (free from AD to EP/DC). Maybe then you'd have more opponents.

Teargrants · September 2014

Arius was magical last night. I blinked through the smurfs outside the lumber, then went to use the postern.

NOPE!

There were 5 of us trying to get in but it seems we lost the key. So I start blinking along the wall to the main gate while the angry smurfs nuke the poor sods still trying to get in the damn postern.

NOPE!

Blink 1-2 times then get ported backwards, even when I gave up and started walking it was a nonstop rubberband fest until I was suddenly ported into the keep, rejoice!

NOPE!

Took two steps and ported back outside into the smurf sea and another round of rubberbanding till I crashed. Oh well, now I can log in and res at the FC.

NOPE!

I res as a corpse, now I'm stuck and have to force quit. Oh well now I'll ride back to Arius.

NOPE!

Got stuck in queue instead. Then by the time I got back in Cyrodiil we lost the siege because like me, at least 1/3 of the rest of EP was stuck trying to log back into the game rather than defending the keep.

GG Betamax.

LonePirate · September 2014

I find it interesting, and possibly even telling, that no one from ZOS has chimed in on this thread, even just to comment that they are investigating last night's problems.

Or does everyone have confidence that the problems are being researched without any official proclamations?

Agrippa_Invisus · September 2014

LonePirate wrote: »

I find it interesting, and possibly even telling, that no one from ZOS has chimed in on this thread, even just to comment that they are investigating last night's problems.

Or does everyone have confidence that the problems are being researched without any official proclamations?

No confidence whatsoever.